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[Mista Whizzard]

Tarzilman, on 19 September 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

o.O

Don't panic Whizzy, it's all right. Life goes on. Let the dodgy agents go. ^^

Yea, life will go on.... and it'l be another 10 years before we get a mech sim. Contrary to some belief - I don't wanna see this one fail.

It's a documented fact in many businesses - 80% of your turnover will come from your top 20% of your customers. And yes; that (almost) applies to my own business. What if that 20% up and leaves and doesn't come back?

If this sh*t keeps going we may find out.

Edited by Mista Whizzard, 19 September 2013 - 08:19 PM.

[Novakaine]

Wow we have a enough threads for a black and white checkered suit now.
We really need a ceasefire.
Novakaine The Grey Knight.

[Corwin Maxwell]

Is not a knight by any means...just a man that wants to watch the whole world burn down. and is willing to stoke the flames, just to hear the sweet sounds of lamintation and agony.

[Corvus Antaka]

Kay Wolf, on 19 September 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

"My ship don't crash. She crashes, you crashed her." ~ Captain Malcolm Reynolds; Serenity.

Exactly.

The trolls don't care man. The only thing they care about is destroying this game at this point, or they are simply angry, depressed or don't know any better.

[Nekki Basara]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

Exactly.

The trolls don't care man. The only thing they care about is destroying this game at this point, or they are simply angry, depressed or don't know any better.

So you're saying that the reason the game is failing is trolls?

[Corvus Antaka]

Nekki Basara, on 19 September 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

So you're saying that the reason the game is failing is trolls?

Who says the game is failing? Except for the trolls?

I haven't any troubles getting matches. You have some numbers to back that rhetoric up?

[Victor Morson]

MonkeyCheese, on 19 September 2013 - 06:41 PM, said:

Oh yes where is the part where I was not calm? I am not the one swearing here or suggesting a conspiracy theory.

We are paying customers/supporters of this so called "kickstarter" and we have a right to have a different opinion than you when we have been constantly lied to and when promises have been broken and then there is the lack of communication, all while we continued to support.

I honestly believe that PGI changed their ways and made the "haters" happy with you know content and keeping promises and serious communication to their "Backers" that it would not change your happy experience in the slightest.

I for one wish that PGI held back on the official launch of MWO until the core features of CW and UI 2.0 and everything that was waiting on UI 2.0 could be implemented so we could show the world a great game even if it was still beta for another 6 months to a year to attain this goal and all the new people including the ones who avoid beta level games could enjoy a wonderful game.

Instead we get new people experiencing a outdated user interface that will one day be drastically overhauled and this

and this

This is not what we should be showing the world when we say look MWO is out of beta come and play

And don't say this isn't a kickstarter project and that the game was already funded in the shadows because PGI and the media have repeatedly stated that this was the most successful kickstarter style fundings ever.

Bahahhaha is that a list of things that suck?

Air Strikes? Terra Therma? The Kintaro? 3PV??? Why would you put Air Strikes in an ad?

I almost want to make an epic mock trailer with pumping music that showcases that image, then cut to the little AC/2 rounds falling out of the sky for a quarter second with a "plink." Maybe a moment held on the red smoke.

This basically sums up what it's like to use the Airstrike:

Edited by Victor Morson, 19 September 2013 - 09:23 PM.

[Nekki Basara]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

Who says the game is failing? Except for the trolls?

I haven't any troubles getting matches. You have some numbers to back that rhetoric up?

Well you just said the ship is crashing, so unless you're totally misinterpreting the metaphor you just implied that the game is failing.

[Corvus Antaka]

Nekki Basara, on 19 September 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Well you just said the ship is crashing, so unless you're totally misinterpreting the metaphor you just implied that the game is failing.

I guess you missed the part about "you crashed her" being a reference to what trolls could in theory be trying to do - or understanding basic grammar is difficult here?

Nice try diverting though. Give some numbers or stop wasting time.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 19 September 2013 - 09:29 PM.

[SteelRat]

GhstWlkr, on 19 September 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

Wow....so many negative posts. I would submit to any of you who are dissatisfied with the playability or graphics or anything else for this free-to-play game, that you are free-to-play an expensive store bought game .....

Thoughts? Comments?

I would drop 80 bucks on a complete AAA Mechwarrior title in a heartbeat! The reason some of us still hang around is because this was suppose to be the answer to our MW prayers. I have been waiting 13 years for a decent, official MW game and was very excited when PGI said they were going to fulfill our dreams and bring back MW.

I personally don't give a **** about the nitpicking. Weapon values can change, mechs can be tweaked, etc. I am dissatisfied with the lack of a real game here. It's not f'in rocket science to give us some very BASIC things that would help this game tremendously.

A good example is this ELO BS matchmaking. In the same amount time they f'd around with that, they could have made some basic dropship lobbies that let us select various options (total weight, mech classes, map, etc). Right now we are in an automated Combat Engine that we have ZERO control over. You can't select your mech based on map type, or communicate with your drop mates. No, instead of giving us some control and allowing us to teach new players, by giving us dropship lobbies of some kind, they would rather put in 3PV.

For those of you satisfied with a COMBAT ENGINE, there is nothing wrong with that. But I have been playing some version of MW since 1989. I played on GENIE, KESMAI, AOL, MPBT:3025, and all the stand alone games and know that it can be so much more.

PGI has the foundation to do something great but all I have seen over the last year is a dog chasing its tail.


-Sad and Disappointed with PGI
(Never thought I would see the day someone could f'it up worse than EA)

[Victor Morson]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

I guess you missed the part about "you crashed her" being a reference to what trolls could in theory be trying to do - or understanding basic grammar is difficult here?

Nice try diverting though. Give some numbers or stop wasting time.

I'll give you some numbers: I post a ton in this forum and you post almost twice as much as I do. In fact I believe you appear in 98% of threads to defend PGI, because.. well I have no idea. I admire your loyalty but if this were a war, you'd be the guy holed up in a cave 20 years after it ended insisting your side is doing fine.

[Corvus Antaka]

Victor Morson, on 19 September 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

I'll give you some numbers: I post a ton in this forum and you post almost twice as much as I do. In fact I believe you appear in 98% of threads to defend PGI, because.. well I have no idea. I admire your loyalty but if this were a war, you'd be the guy holed up in a cave 20 years after it ended insisting your side is doing fine.

And if we listened to you - no one would be posting on these forums, no matches could be found, and...hmmm...why are you still here if it's all so bad as you claim?

[Targetloc]

Internet robots are serious business.

The pieces needed for 'online gaming' to expand past small circles of BBSs and MUDs didn't exist prior to 1995. There is a reason they are called gaming Clans. Quake Clans. Counter-Strike Clans. COD Clans. All grew from a common ancestor.

Mechwarrior 2 is a cross between Kevin Bacon and the loving grandfather who taught you everything you ever learned about killing people.

You either played in a clan from Mechwarrior 2, or joined a clan founded by someone who played Mechwarrior 2, or created your own clan to get even with some guy who tea-bagged you with funny letters in front of his name because he got the idea from someone who used to play Mechwarrior 2.


Anyone that can't understand the amount of backlash PGI gets for ******* in the volcano that is the forums every now and then doesn't realize just how far the magma goes beneath the surface. Gamers in their 30's that are now running the game review sites, and other high-profile 'game people' like the boys at Penny Arcade... even if they aren't personally playing MWO or coming here to complain, when you **** on the 'vocal minority of die-hard fans' you **** on their friends, colleagues and age-old brothers in arms. And people tend to develop biases based on profanity filled tirades their friends go off on about a particular game.


Draw a Venn diagram of 'hardcore gamers from the 90's', 'people who are now deeply and widely connected in the game industry' and 'people who literally wrote the book on how to build and organize online game communities' and there is a massive, raging nostalgia-***** dead-center of that graph labelled Mechwarrior 2.

[Nekki Basara]

^^^^
ETA: This was a good post, with information I had not considered before. Thank you for posting it.

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

I guess you missed the part about "you crashed her" being a reference to what trolls could in theory be trying to do - or understanding basic grammar is difficult here?

Nice try diverting though. Give some numbers or stop wasting time.

Man, you REALLY need to watch Firefly.

Edited by Nekki Basara, 19 September 2013 - 09:36 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

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Community that's unhappy should go make a mech game then. Still waiting.

Edited by miSs, 20 September 2013 - 10:11 AM.

[Deathlike]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Community that's unhappy should go make a mech game then. Still waiting.

It wouldn't be legal in the first place if it was to displace this game (BT/TT) due to licensing. Although, I have heard something like that sort in the works elsewhere.

[MechFrog1]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Community that's unhappy should go make a mech game then. Still waiting.

This is a lazy and nonsensical argument.

[No7]

Targetloc, on 19 September 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Internet robots are serious business.

<snip>

Excellent post, thank you for that perspective.

You looking for a clan?

And thank you Bryan! Now your work can finally begin. Impress me!

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[Corvus Antaka]

mint frog, on 19 September 2013 - 10:32 PM, said:

This is a lazy and nonsensical argument.

Less lazy than moaning on the forums but not actually going and making that mech game you gentlemen want.

[MechFrog1]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 September 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

Less lazy than moaning on the forums but not actually going and making that mech game you gentlemen want.

Since we can't legally make the mech game we want, your point is nonsensical and foolish from square one.

This is where you recover what is left of your dignity and step out of the conversation.

Edited by mint frog, 19 September 2013 - 10:41 PM.