on the other hand atleast your not being so abusive. with the constant stream of abuse toward people posting in this thread that come from you and peef im suprised this thread wasnt shut down.......ive seen threads shut down for far less!
This guy is complaining about abuse? You should see him and his friends smack talking in game. That's the stuff that gets you banned. All of a sudden his ears are too sensitive...
You're right that this thread should be closed though. You and your whining buddies haven't shown one bit of proof other than "I said so!"
The latest "proof" is that it takes a lot of SSRM2s to kill a mech? NEWS FLASH??? You guys just reveal yourselves everytime you open your mouths.
And I guess if you spend a lot of time in trial mechs then yes, you can all play spiders now. Please do! It will make it that much sweeter when I kill you.
Guy on my team says "Light mechs are OP! One just killed me in an assault!" Enemy light pilot says "It was 3 light mechs and you suck." I kill 3 light mechs, 1, 2, 3. I tell my team mate he sucks. Rage quit
i did look up some stuff but basicly just got abused by you for doing it. remember this.....
Broken.
and your reply
Mehlan, on 24 September 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:
Not provided by you and was documented by St Jobe even prior to the video.
and a reply from me
akpavker, on 24 September 2013 - 06:09 PM, said:
yes correct and correct......
but reguardless of the date the video was posted or who posted it i dont remember seeing any thing in patch notes stating spider hit boxes being fixed. from memory only HSR issues were addressed and both mechs in this video are standing still. you ask for evidence this show a hit box issue which hasnt been addressed and you still act like a arrogant *****.
and so ive compiled...
mehlan and PEEFsmash's greatest hits
this is one of my favorits.....
Mehlan, on 24 September 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:
rofl arrogant ***? and who's the one that posted I made not attempts to claim that 'spot' was not valid or anything else of that nature, not has anyone else. What has been stated is, it is most highly unlikely THAT 'spot' is the cause of the problems and complaints in regards to the hit detection and damage application to spiders. It was also pointed out that 'spot' is present on several mechs, including the spider. Where as it has been your 'camps' claim that the spider itself should be 'addressed' or removed from play because of 'hitbox issues' (get that last word, implication being multiple) when data, and pgi's own statement that the leading cause seems to be the HSR. To that end it has been Peef & I, and our 'camp' who have been trying to collect the information and data for more accurate assessment, to that end asking and cajoling people to collect videos and provide relevant information rather than merely troll the forums and post the tripe as the second quote above.
So arrogant, yes I am...because I try to do my research before I complain or comment on something. I understand the concept & value of testing something and how to do it. Yes, I'll be snarky and I'll toss insults...when the target displays ignorance and stupidity. Be productive, show some signs of intelligence and forethought and I might treat you like a semi-sentient being instead of a troglodyte with a terminal case of cranial-****** inversion.
PEEF trying to explain his existence....
PEEFsmash, on 23 September 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:
I have placed in the top 12 of 4 straight Light Leaderboard Challenges, and the first was after only playing for a month. My placings were 12th, 8th, 3rd, and 2nd. In each of these leaderboard challenges, I didn't play for at least one entire day, and in each challenge I played a different build. I have played in 100% of my units competitive tournament matches since I joined and my role has continued to grow. In that time we have gone 17-1 in sets, and the team we lost against, we later 4-0ed them in the Grand Finals of the tournament to win the whole thing.
I am very well-positioned to discuss top-level play and the opinions of top-level players.
Honestly now, what do you think I have to deny?
and again.....
PEEFsmash, on 23 September 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:
First of all, it's Indiana University.
Secondly, let me repost this for ya'll who don't read:
"I have placed in the top 12 of 4 straight Light Leaderboard Challenges, and the first was after only playing for a month. My placings were 12th, 8th, 3rd, and 2nd. In each of these leaderboard challenges, I didn't play for at least one entire day, and in each challenge I played a different build. I have played in 100% of my units competitive tournament matches since I joined and my role has continued to grow. In that time we have gone 17-1 in sets, and the team we lost against, we later 4-0ed them in the Grand Finals of the tournament to win the whole thing.
I am very well-positioned to discuss top-level play and the opinions of top-level players.
Honestly now, what do you think I have to deny?"
a video that proves not much followed by more abuse...
Mehlan, on 22 September 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:
5 minutes huh? 31 seconds, Guess I should have used a black cat, not a calico one....damn.
Don't need to be a programmer, just a working brain cell to try to check and see...as I pointed out, if it was hitboxes it would happen each and every time in each and every match. It doesn't.. IF you'd research and read instead of crying for a whaaaaambulance, you'd find the answer to your tears.
Btw, if I'm in denial...why is it I'M the one doing the testing, providing vids...while your the one crying and guessing at whats happening?
Mehlan, on 25 September 2013 - 01:59 AM, said:
[/list] It would seem obvious that I did not see it then, wouldn't it? Much as apparently you haven't seen anything from Peef & I but insults. Let's see 2 vids so far, canon related data on LM's & Spider, explinations in regards to ping, network latency & jitter and how they impact gameplay and how this ties into HSR. Detail into hitboxes vs HSR/'netcode' in regards to what is reported as taking place, and questions posed directly to you in regards to these...
Nor, did I state IF you read what I said it was... that 2nd quote being . That word 'camp' denotes sides...not individuals...
Or perhaps it's your stupid arse that needs to come up to myne. I'm the '{Richard Cameron}' for telling someone to report people for playing a mech if their going to state it's exploitable? I'm not the moron attacking people in game chat for playing any particular mech. I'm not the genius running around talking about 'easymode' either... I'm one of the guys actually trying to help figure out something to try to lead to a better game and create understanding about what is taking place rather than putting on a blindfold and throwing darts at a wall to find the 'problem'. If that's being a '{Richard Cameron}', I've got no problem with it...I know that I am at least trying to be productive as opposed to playing the part of the screaming 2 yr old in the grocery store.
p.s. Cdrolly there would be the genius who made the comment
p.p..s. If you want to be sure i see something, you obviously know how to look at my profile, try clicking that button that says 'send message'.
another one where you insist that some one isnt all there
Mehlan, on 22 September 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:
You're a few cards short of a full deck aren't ya? You make claims, but can't provide anything factual to support it....
1> Show us 'spiders' (or any light) consistently standing toe to toe acting as an assualt.
2> Precisely how much 'bigger' the spider is supposed to be. It's taller than the commando, the same height as a jenner and a tad short than a cicada. Taller than the 20ton, same height as the 35 ton and slightly shorter than the 40 ton. So genius, what size SHOULD it be?
3> Quote canon where lights and particular the spider was only a 'scout'... rather than the sarna notation stating
'fast strike forces'.
Quit your whining, quit your semi-coherent blather and pony up some facts and actual data.
and again....
Mehlan, on 22 September 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:
'Short a full decks of cards'....google it.
A 'lot of people' oh wow, there's a defence....funny I check this forum and percentage wise...I see more 'saying learn how to aim'.
'You play this game longer than me...one of the first beta testers',... Yea and I can see the qaility of your 'testing', which would explain a LOT about the current state of MWO. I can only hope your not brought into the beta of any other 'game' again.
We know you 'think think i actually know what i say and why'... a lot of delusional people do the same thing. You've been posed questions and challenges to give you the opportunity to do just that.....but instead you blather even more BS.
...and of course then your final, hypocritical statement. ROFL
Pot meet kettle...
how ever im sure your both nice guys in real life....
Corwin Vickers, on 02 October 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:
This guy is complaining about abuse? You should see him and his friends smack talking in game. That's the stuff that gets you banned. All of a sudden his ears are too sensitive...
dont know about you but i find this pritty abusive...
Mehlan, on 24 September 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:
Be productive, show some signs of intelligence and forethought and I might treat you like a semi-sentient being instead of a troglodyte with a terminal case of cranial-****** inversion.
i even apologized to him in one of my first post not know exactly what i did wrong and he still kept charging and striking at me like a king brown.
Been playing Champ spoder a lot lately and I am calling this broken as hell. I'm doing stupid **** that would get me killed in a Jenner and running around the feet of obviously agitated assaults, heavies and even a few mediums cackling with glee. There is no good reason this mech should be as durable as it is compared to the Jenner. Nothing short of a Streaktaro or a damn lucky alpha takes this little **** down expediently.
Surprisingly, SDR is not nearly as common in drops as it was earlier today.
Edited by TychoTheItinerant, 02 October 2013 - 10:13 PM.
dont know about you but i find this pritty abusive...
i even apologized to him in one of my first post not know exactly what i did wrong and he still kept charging and striking at me like a king brown.
That would be due to the fact, as you helped demonstrate yourself, your reading comprehension sucks. You don't 'listen', you don't test. You whine and you repeatedly take commentary out of context. Then, when your left alone, you make some stupid comment to call me out... case in point. We finaly get some vids...and a certain someone opens his yap. Does he say something productive in regards to what data is in the vids?
akpavker, on 01 October 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:
mehlan and PEEFsmash will find some flaw or just straight up abuse the f**k out of TexAss for posting that video im sure.....just give it time. or at least that's what happened to me when i posted a video showing that they are broken!
No, you flap your gums with more manure, whining because you called out for using the work someone else had done and had already been referred to, examined and commented on.
Theyll never balance spiders because a Dev plays one. Its why the cockpit item is nicer, its why they're untouched.
Somehow I am completely unsurprised. I'll keep playing the champ spoder happily, though. Might as well have fun with the damn thing. I will say I see people dealing with SDRs a lot more competently lately, though the SDR's absolutely ridiculous ability to not die when being absolutely hammered from multiple directions is still something I never DARED try with my Jenner (when I had it).
Orodain, on 03 October 2013 - 04:43 AM, said:
IGP will bury this game the same way they did with warhammer. They know better than the people playing the game just watch.
Wait, are you talking about Warhammer Online? I thought EA/Mythic were the ****-birds who flushed that one down the *******.
Edited by TychoTheItinerant, 03 October 2013 - 12:50 PM.
Where are the videos of the other alleged "holes" on other mechs?
The Jenner has a few around where the arm and side torso meet, as well as some spots when firing from above. The Centurion has the well known destroyed arm/side torso overlap thing, and there are others.
....and once again your evidence of this happening each and every match are where?
What/where is your evidence that it is the mech and not system code? I'm waiting on youtube to fnish processing a vid that shows an enemy group having no problems damaging and indeed killin a spider as it tried to run through/past them.
....as an aside though, based on some of these 'founder' created threads. I'm having to start to wonder
how much fault lies solely @ the feet of pgi.
go into the new map shoot the spider. Now go shoot another mech. Yeah. Don't even need to capture it in game. Argue what you will everyone knows the spiders borqued. The Raven had the same fraggin problem, now its this one.
PropagandaWar, on 03 October 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:
go into the new map shoot the spider. Now go shoot another mech. Yeah. Don't even need to capture it in game. Argue what you will everyone knows the spiders borqued. The Raven had the same fraggin problem, now its this one.
If you're talking about Testing Grounds, don't. Testing Grounds are not a reliable place to replicate this issue. I know because I have tried.
go into the new map shoot the spider. Now go shoot another mech. Yeah. Don't even need to capture it in game. Argue what you will everyone knows the spiders borqued. The Raven had the same fraggin problem, now its this one.
PropagandaWar, on 03 October 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:
LMAO. I know this. It's funny how the Spider is borqued in both realms.
I would think knowing that sometimes the stationary spider has issues in the training ground would help PGI solve the issue as I would think there are no HSR or netcode issues to worry about there, though I could be mistaken.
TychoTheItinerant, on 03 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:
If you're talking about Testing Grounds, don't. Testing Grounds are not a reliable place to replicate this issue. I know because I have tried.
Yeah... There is something called LAG that exist in one of those places that turns it into a whole different ball game.
Another note.... This issue exists in every multiplayer game that we know of.
I've seen spider pilots brag of 700-1200 points of damage, and watched one kill 4 assault mechs... alone. How many other pilots rack up that consistantly?
That ain't right. Lag/FPS invincibility is a major problem for any mech that small and moving over 115, but it's particularly promenant with spiders.
The way I start dealing with them is lob LRM volleys on them till they're bait for the lucky shot a lag didn't make miss.
I don't know what the solution is yet, but I know it's a game mechanic flaw to have such a small fragile mech be that powerful.
On another note. I think its kinda funny that most people said this mech would be DOA.
I guess way back when, that might have seemed new and funny. But aren't you used to it by now? Kintaro was broken, worthless, etc., now light pilots post sweet tears of broken grief after every time a streak-kint blows their crutch-Spider out from under them.
Griffin hasn't even dropped, yet. No one knows anything about it but some numbers. There are already people saying it's a dog.
Again there were people saying the Orion was going to be DOA.
Victor was all right, but that's just because everyone loves assaults.
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akpavker, on 02 October 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:
