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#81 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:36 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

Happens with Jennrs too... While standing still and shut down for 2+ seconds, eating a ~50+ alpha in the face at 30m, and took no noticeable damage.

Im calling bantha boodoo!


View Post12Bravo, on 23 September 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:


Just watched this, wow... Don't know if any of them normally pilot lights, but none of them should.... That was probably the worst display of light mech piloting I have ever seen... And trust me, I've watched video of myself playing in light mechs, so I have seen some pretty bad piloting...



So......

If a grp of bad light pilots get owned.... That would mean a grp of skilled light pilots are OP or that ppl are QQing about a group of skilled light pilots showing them they are not as good as they want to think they are?


LMFAO!

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 23 September 2013 - 08:39 AM.


#82 Hythos

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:43 AM

View PostFunkadelic Mayhem, on 23 September 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

Im calling bantha boodoo!





So......

If a grp of bad light pilots get owned.... That would mean a grp of skilled light pilots are OP or that ppl are QQing about a group of skilled light pilots showing them they are not as good as they want to think they are?


LMFAO!

IKR?
Not sure if you're referring to my reference, because I wish I had recorded that match from my ON1...
But good player, bad player, I was the guy with the gun - and I waited long enough to be absolutely certain my shot would hit to account for HSR, lag, rubber-banding...

#83 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:47 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

IKR?
Not sure if you're referring to my reference, because I wish I had recorded that match from my ON1...
But good player, bad player, I was the guy with the gun - and I waited long enough to be absolutely certain my shot would hit to account for HSR, lag, rubber-banding...

no you did not because you have no idea of knowing how to compensate for HSR. Has your nose cracked your monitor yet?

#84 Artgathan

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:00 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

IKR?
Not sure if you're referring to my reference, because I wish I had recorded that match from my ON1...
But good player, bad player, I was the guy with the gun - and I waited long enough to be absolutely certain my shot would hit to account for HSR, lag, rubber-banding...

View PostFunkadelic Mayhem, on 23 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

no you did not because you have no idea of knowing how to compensate for HSR. Has your nose cracked your monitor yet?


Errr well... In theory you don't compensate for HSR, HSR compensates for you!

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:10 AM

View PostFunkadelic Mayhem, on 23 September 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

no you did not because you have no idea of knowing how to compensate for HSR. Has your nose cracked your monitor yet?

5xPPC's at point blank. He should be died!

Oh! Wait, I have a better one:

Funkadelic Mayhem said:

You don't know the history of HSR, *I* do!

Edited by Hythos, 23 September 2013 - 09:14 AM.


#86 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:10 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

5xPPC's at point blank. He should be died!

PIx/vid or it never happened.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

5xPPC's at point blank. He should be died!

Not to point out the obvious... but 5 x PPCs at PBR as a result of the last PPC nerf would result in at best a cool light-show and and a weird tickling sensation... :)

#88 Mister Blastman

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostGhogiel, on 23 September 2013 - 08:10 AM, said:

Meanwhile in MWO this is happening....





Video footage from today 2PM UK time.
I backed up my claim about hit detection issues.


inb4 excuses and hand waving away of unmistakeably clear video evidence.

/thread


That's like me shooting stuff all the time right now. I'm back to 30-50% of damage not registering again. It isn't as bad as the 50-70% before but is pretty bad nonetheless.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:23 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

5xPPC's at point blank. He should be died!

Oh! Wait, I have a better one:


Shooting PPCs at PBR does exactly 0 damage... I play a JR7-F a lot and play it very aggressively so I run very hot. If I screw up and shutdown in front of someone who knows wtf they are doing I die. Period.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:35 AM

Glad to see everyone's so quick to point out something I wrote! At least anyone gave me credit that I may have actually hit in an otherwise practically impossible chance to miss.
That was my mistake; I accidentally wrote PPC, when I meant to write 2xLarge Pulse LASERs + AC/20 + Medium Pulse LASER + 2xSRM-4a's, 'cause I'm not smart enough to know te difference. But those all deal zero damage at 30m too.

#91 Dago Red

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostDaZur, on 23 September 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

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Not to point out the obvious... but 5 x PPCs at PBR as a result of the last PPC nerf would result in at best a cool light-show and and a weird tickling sensation... :)



Now normally I don't support shooting beer with high powered energy weapons but in this case...............

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:37 AM

View PostKhobai, on 23 September 2013 - 08:10 AM, said:


Nope. Its called the Dunning-Kruger effect; players think theyre more skilled than they actually are. You're missing 90% of your shots because youre actually missing, not because you're hitting and the game isn't magically registering damage.

Because I have absolutely no problems hitting light mechs with most weapons, particularly lasers and ballistics. The only weapons that arnt registering hits properly are SRMs, but thats a known issue, and its already been mentioned.

And yes the Spider also has some weird hitbox issues going on right now, but its got nothing to do with hit registration, since its unique to the Spider. The Spider's hitboxes need to be redone, like how they redid the Raven's hitboxes; nobody has had trouble killing Ravens since then.



This is exactly the reason you shouldnt even bother folks. You could slam their face into a white wall and they will say no its blue.

Unless your trolling, in which case well done. I like the little touch bringing up hyphonated terminology. Makes it look like you are almost serious.

Edited by l33tworks, 23 September 2013 - 09:41 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:43 AM

View PostMister Blastman, on 23 September 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:


That's like me shooting stuff all the time right now. I'm back to 30-50% of damage not registering again. It isn't as bad as the 50-70% before but is pretty bad nonetheless.

You are clearly missing those shots. Havent you ever heard of the Dunnington-Kongerrer effect? Get with the times.

As predicted there is no real evidence.

Edited by l33tworks, 23 September 2013 - 09:45 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:51 AM

View PostHythos, on 23 September 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Glad to see everyone's so quick to point out something I wrote! At least anyone gave me credit that I may have actually hit in an otherwise practically impossible chance to miss.
That was my mistake; I accidentally wrote PPC, when I meant to write 2xLarge Pulse LASERs + AC/20 + Medium Pulse LASER + 2xSRM-4a's, 'cause I'm not smart enough to know te difference. But those all deal zero damage at 30m too.


Well changing your story completely after someone calls you out for a foolish "mistake" definitely in no way decreases your credibility on this issue.

Edited by Lostdragon, 23 September 2013 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:53 AM

View Postl33tworks, on 23 September 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

You are clearly missing those shots. Havent you ever heard of the Dunnington-Kongerrer effect? Get with the times.

As predicted there is no real evidence.


Sorry. I forgot I'm a nub and have no idea how to play this game. Thank you for letting me know. I'll get back to being fodder.

Oh, how do you get out of 3rd person view again? I can't quite figure that out...

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:59 AM

View PostLostdragon, on 23 September 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Well changing your story completely after someone calls you out for a foolish "mistake" definitely in no way decreases your credibility on this issue.



Yes it does.

every word he types now is just the sounds of walking in the bog of eternal stench. He should probably go away from the forums for a while so people can forget his nasty filthy lies.

#97 DaZur

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:10 AM

View PostDago Red, on 23 September 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Now normally I don't support shooting beer with high powered energy weapons but in this case...............

Pffft...

Clearly you've never mis-sipped a fine Milwaukee can of swill and expelled it out of your nose... and I'll argue pound-for PSI pound no stronger stream of fermented barley / hops can be found! :)

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:17 AM

View PostDago Red, on 23 September 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Now normally I don't support shooting beer with high powered energy weapons but in this case...............

I thought this was going to be about me... as after 12K posts... My keyboard is getting tired! :)

Better is becoming Beer more often.

View PostDaZur, on 23 September 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

Pffft...

Clearly you've never mis-sipped a fine Milwaukee can of swill and expelled it out of your nose... and I'll argue pound-for PSI pound no stronger stream of fermented barley / hops can be found! :)

Have you tried St Ide's Malt Liquor?

#99 DaZur

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:27 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 23 September 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Have you tried St Ide's Malt Liquor?

Must confess I have not... I'm a whiskey drinker at heart and when pressed to drink bear, I tend to lean toward heavier Bocks.

That said, I'll state emphatically shooting any beer let along a Bock (not even mentioning doppelbocks) out ones probosces is not advised regardless of the range-to-target. :)

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 10:30 AM

View PostLostdragon, on 23 September 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Well changing your story completely after someone calls you out for a foolish "mistake" definitely in no way decreases your credibility on this issue.


Oh; meaning the message about PPC's 'cause you felt the need to 'flame' about? Or the message I wrote before that when I described a 50pt+ alpha that dealt no visible damage....

View PostFunkadelic Mayhem, on 23 September 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:



Yes it does.

every word he types now is just the sounds of walking in the bog of eternal stench. He should probably go away from the forums for a while so people can forget his nasty filthy lies.

Such playful banter :)





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