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No New Lights In 5 Months. Only 4 Light Chassis, Every Other Class With 5-6. 1 Bad Hero Light (March?), But About To Be 10 Hero Assault/heavies.


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#1 PEEFsmash

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:28 AM

The title didn't allow me to list how little the developers have done for the light class, so let me post it all here.

My List of Grievances regarding the neglect of the Light Class, both Balance-Related and Content-Production Related:

1: No new light Chassis in 8 months NOT 5!. (No, Jenner-Fc and Jenner Ds do not count as new mechs...because they aren't).

2: Only 4 Light chassis, significantly limiting our options, every other class with 5-6.

3: No new Hero light in 5 months.

4: Only one Hero light (and it sucks).

5: With the introduction of the "Boar Head" Hero Atlas, there will soon be 10 Hero Assault/Heavies.

6: Phoenix Light (Locust) will be by far the worst mech in the game, and is strictly worse than other (already limited) light options.

7: No word on MASC.

8: No word on Flea (promised 5 mechs ago?)

9: Medium movement bonuses quickly brought into the game, but no word on the light movement bonuses that were also promised.

10: There has not been a "Light vs. World" Leaderboard Challenge, even though there has been 2 Heavy vs Worlds, and an Assault vs. World and Medium vs World

11: Almost every "light weapon" in this game is bad. Small Lasers, Small Pulse Lasers and Medium Pulse Lasers are all terrible. Standard SRMs are also weak. The serious, competitive options for lights are Medium Lasers and Streaks.

12: One of the best light weapons (Streak SRM) is far better when used AGAINST lights than when used BY them.

13: The only light ballistic (machinegun) is bad, and can only be used at all en masse. There is no other ballistic option usable by light mechs (no heavy machine gun, no light autocannon, etc.)

14: The game has ER PPCs, ER Large Lasers, giving extra and often-used options to Heavy and Assault mechs, but there is NO ER Small Laser or ER Medium Laser. The timeline has been "worked around" before, and in this case, the timeline needs to be "worked around" again.

15: Speed has been capped for what, a full year? In that time the development team has fixed and built and developed a thousand different things. Where is the work/news on netcode improvements so Lights can play without an artificial restriction?

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View PostKunae, on 24 September 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

Only 5 months?

Man, you missed all of the really severe light nerfs which happened around and just after MWO went OB. The huge SSRM buff in Nov, which let the streak-cat reign supreme. The Dec 18th patch which put in ECM, and completely gutted JJ's.

Those are just a couple, but the biggies.




PGI has literally done NOTHING for light mech pilots since I joined this game 5 months ago. PGI treats us like we don't even exist. Every new announcement is for another big money Assault or Heavy, and the reason? Development of Assaults/Heavies makes the dev team more money because according to every study, Assaults and Heavies are the most often-played mechs, and they can charge more for each Heavy/Assault hero.

Well, I'm making this post because I feel like this is a straight up insult to light pilots who have been faithfully playing this game for the last half a year. Does PGI need ideas for light mechs/light mech heroes? If so PGI, message me. I've got plenty of ideas that would work.

Assaultwarrior Online is not only the easiest way to win, it is being actively promoted.

I hope that not only Light mech pilots will respond to this rallying cry, but pilots of larger mechs can understand how frustating this would be if your class had been utterly ignored for 5 months. All I'm asking is that the Light class gets its fair share of attention from the development team.

Edited by PEEFsmash, 24 September 2013 - 12:18 PM.


#2 Kunae

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:34 AM

Only 5 months?

Man, you missed all of the really severe light nerfs which happened around and just after MWO went OB. The huge SSRM buff in Nov, which let the streak-cat reign supreme. The Dec 18th patch which put in ECM, and completely gutted JJ's.

Those are just a couple, but the biggies.

Edited by Kunae, 24 September 2013 - 11:34 AM.


#3 Zultor

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:35 AM

Uh, walk back from the cliff.

You know why there haven't been more lights. The speed issues means masc, etc can't be introduced yet.

Also, regarding your question as to why no ER Small Laser isn't that because it hasn't been invented yet in the timeline. It doesn't come out to 3058.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:35 AM

Project Phoenix + Saber Package and now the most expensive Hero mech.

Looks like they desperately need some revenue.

I don´t complain - waiting for an Atlas Hero forever and will definately buy it but i honestly expected a Light Hero and was hoping for a Spider or Jenner.

#5 Kunae

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:36 AM

View PostZultor, on 24 September 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

Also, regarding your question as to why no ER Small Laser isn't that because it hasn't been invented yet in the timeline. It doesn't come out to 3058.

ECM, in its current implementation has never existed, but it hasn't stopped them. ;)

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:37 AM

Iv been waiting for the flea for a long fracking time now. But since the MG nurf I no longer care.

As a light pilot and only a light pilot. I would like to see more lights. It might give incentive to put money into the game with more bays.

But with all the "lights are OP" threads and not seaing and new lights in the game. I cant help but wonder if the devs caved into the assault founders QQing. That or there are not as many people working on this game as they are telling us there is.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 24 September 2013 - 11:46 AM.


#7 PEEFsmash

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostZultor, on 24 September 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

Also, regarding your question as to why no ER Small Laser isn't that because it hasn't been invented yet in the timeline. It doesn't come out to 3058.


Funny how easy it was for them to break timeline for the Cataphract-3D, which shouldn't exist via timeline either, but is the best Heavy Mech in the game.

The timeline has to be worked around in cases like this.

#8 Imperius

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:40 AM

Where is the video footage to backup these absurd claims? Videos or it didn't happen.

#9 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostImperius, on 24 September 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Where is the video footage to backup these absurd claims? Videos or it didn't happen.

go stand on a corner and protest people protesting because protesting is not American.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

Yes /agree more lights please.

#11 PEEFsmash

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostZultor, on 24 September 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

Uh, walk back from the cliff.

You know why there haven't been more lights. The speed issues means masc, etc can't be introduced yet.


This is not a reason that another 150kph light couldn't be released.

#12 Zultor

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostKunae, on 24 September 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

ECM, in its current implementation has never existed, but it hasn't stopped them. ;)


ECM exists in the timeline. I don't know what you are referring to by "in its current implementation". Everything in this game has been tweaked to some degree.

#13 Mechteric

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:44 AM

Some of us will be getting Locusts in less than a month

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:46 AM

The truth is PGI's aim is to turn this game into a cash cow
They push out assaults cause they're the most expensive mechs

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:46 AM

it's obvious heavies/assaults rake in the dough, as that is what people play in noweightlimitsonline.

I understand the majority of the complaints, but they obviously need/want to get cash flow or they would be doing something else.

Edited by Monky, 24 September 2013 - 11:48 AM.


#16 PEEFsmash

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:47 AM

View PostCapperDeluxe, on 24 September 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

Some of us will be getting Locusts in less than a month


And with no MASC and no speed-cap increase, Locusts will be by far the worst mech in the game, and will be strictly inferior to already released lights.

#17 Zultor

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:47 AM

View PostPEEFsmash, on 24 September 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

This is not a reason that another 150kph light couldn't be released.


Haven't the lights that were planned been faster thus delayed? They can't pump out a mech overnight there is, probably, a long lead time for legal and technical reasons.

Also, remember that there is very little difference in a lot of light mechs, They simply don't have the tonnage to offer much in terms of variety.

#18 Zultor

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:49 AM

View PostPEEFsmash, on 24 September 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:


Funny how easy it was for them to break timeline for the Cataphract-3D, which shouldn't exist via timeline either, but is the best Heavy Mech in the game.

The timeline has to be worked around in cases like this.



Uh, isn't the CTF-3D available in 3050. At least according to Sarna.

#19 Funkadelic Mayhem

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostZultor, on 24 September 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:


Haven't the lights that were planned been faster thus delayed? They can't pump out a mech overnight there is, probably, a long lead time for legal and technical reasons.

Also, remember that there is very little difference in a lot of light mechs, They simply don't have the tonnage to offer much in terms of variety.



Nothing is really that different within any the classes except the look of the mech.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

Why are you expecting PGI to release more light mechs?

You're supposed to buy more premium time, buy the new hero Atlas for 7500MC... oh and buy more MC.

I mean, how can you go wrong with milking people to buy more assault heroes?





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