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#7461 Tier5 Kerensky

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 06:10 PM

View Postel piromaniaco, on 10 March 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

Well i find the flamer optics okay for a Release of excess reactor Energy.
What puzzles me is the additional heat. I am releasing hot plasma and i am getting hot?


Flamer heat generation, to the mech that's using it, increases over time. I don't remember if it's linear or exponential, for quite some time you can use it with about nominal heat cost, but then it starts to increase rather rapidly until you let it "cool offf".

If you ask technical explonation for it, then it's to prevent it being too powerful, specially when boated in numbers.

#7462 Roc Ingersol

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 08:47 PM

I had a little too much to drink while watching "Galaxy Quest" and apparently thought it would be funny to change my name to this...

Is there any way to get it changed back besides 4500 MC?

Edited by Roc Ingersol, 10 March 2017 - 08:48 PM.


#7463 IraqiWalker

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:12 PM

View PostRoc Ingersol, on 10 March 2017 - 08:47 PM, said:

I had a little too much to drink while watching "Galaxy Quest" and apparently thought it would be funny to change my name to this...

Is there any way to get it changed back besides 4500 MC?

Not that I am aware of. contact support to find out.

My advice? Keep it. it's an awesome name.

#7464 Tesunie

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:33 PM

View Postel piromaniaco, on 10 March 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

Well i find the flamer optics okay for a Release of excess reactor Energy.
What puzzles me is the additional heat. I am releasing hot plasma and i am getting hot?


It's in part a game balance mechanic... as well as HOT PLASMA venting from a barrel. That barrel would still need to be cooled, or it could overheat and melt (and damage the structures around said weapon...). So, your mech has coolant flush through the weapon, which then spreads through the rest of your mech.

It's still hot plasma. Being vented doesn't mean it's cooling you off. It still would produce heat to the venting surfaces. (Same reason JJs produce heat on your mech. Similar concept, but less plasma.)

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:19 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 10 March 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Not that I am aware of. contact support to find out.

My advice? Keep it. it's an awesome name.


:D Thanks bro!

#7466 Donatello Jones

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:20 PM

View PostRoc Ingersol, on 11 March 2017 - 05:19 AM, said:


:D Thanks bro!


Yeah... maybe you're the plucky comic relief. ;)

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 12:56 PM

Thank you. Always something more to learn.

#7468 el piromaniaco

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:16 AM

View PostTesunie, on 10 March 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:


It's in part a game balance mechanic... as well as HOT PLASMA venting from a barrel. That barrel would still need to be cooled, or it could overheat and melt (and damage the structures around said weapon...). So, your mech has coolant flush through the weapon, which then spreads through the rest of your mech.

It's still hot plasma. Being vented doesn't mean it's cooling you off. It still would produce heat to the venting surfaces. (Same reason JJs produce heat on your mech. Similar concept, but less plasma.)


Okay, looking at it like this does make sense.
With the old optics (squirting burning Napalm like crazy) it wouldn't.

#7469 Tesunie

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 09:33 AM

View Postel piromaniaco, on 13 March 2017 - 01:16 AM, said:


Okay, looking at it like this does make sense.
With the old optics (squirting burning Napalm like crazy) it wouldn't.


It still would produce heat, and if it's hot enough to warm up an opposing mech, it's probably still hot enough to heat up the mech shooting it off.

This is a lot like why do ACs produce heat, or missile weapons. Lasers produce heat because energy production from your engine has a counter affect of also producing heat. I would imagine non-energy weapons produce heat because of friction with the barrel or the launch flames of the missiles (and stuff). And all of that heat gets caught in the mechs overall coolant, spreading the heat around to dissipate it.

Of course, this is beyond "game balance" thinking. AKA: If your weapons didn't get cooled in such a manner, the AC barrels would turn red hot and jam (permanently) much like trying to run a motor without any oil in it. etc. (It's also why your mech can stand for limited times in lava, and not just melt instantly upon contact. Or how I interpret it.)

#7470 Jingseng

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:30 PM

Well, beyond friction (which is substantial) there is also the issue of "let's propel this weight by exploding it". Explosions (and controlled explosions - jet fire) generate a lot of heat.

#7471 DavidStarr

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:07 AM

Did many of you guys get a mech out of the loot bag? Or did I get very lucky?

#7472 Rogue Jedi

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:11 AM

View PostDavidStarr, on 17 March 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

Did many of you guys get a mech out of the loot bag? Or did I get very lucky?

if you have it already you got lucky, I have literaly never got the "grand prize" from the grab bag events, there tend to be 3+ a year and I usualy have 50+ redeems from pack purchases (but none this time)

#7473 IraqiWalker

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:20 AM

View PostDavidStarr, on 17 March 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

Did many of you guys get a mech out of the loot bag? Or did I get very lucky?

You lucky duck. That's a once per player prize.

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:31 AM

Thanks for the info. I got very excited when I got a mech (a Banshee-3M, not a bad mech by any means, and an assault!). And it never happened before, so I started wondering if they tuned the chances of the big prizes. Guess not Posted Image

When you say once per player, do you mean during this event, or ever?

Edited by DavidStarr, 17 March 2017 - 08:40 AM.


#7475 Tesunie

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:07 AM

View PostDavidStarr, on 17 March 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

Thanks for the info. I got very excited when I got a mech (a Banshee-3M, not a bad mech by any means, and an assault!). And it never happened before, so I started wondering if they tuned the chances of the big prizes. Guess not Posted Image

When you say once per player, do you mean during this event, or ever?


During the event each player has a chance of winning the grand prize, but each player can only earn the grand prize only once. As you've already earned it once, you can't get a second one.

Last event I got mine with my preorder granted grab bags. I'm kinda hoping I can get the Banshee this time the old fashion way, though I am still leaning on preordering the Crab Hero as well as the Uzel...

#7476 el piromaniaco

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:55 AM

Doh,

with all the other events before i won the mech.

This time i got 125 chances without playing, no Mech so far.

#7477 DavidStarr

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 11:02 AM

I've completed the previous event for, like, 90% (of the total number of bags possible to get), and the one before that for 75% - never knew there even is a grand prize. From what you're saying, it seems there's a significant chance of getting it for each player.

#7478 Tesunie

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 11:13 AM

View PostDavidStarr, on 17 March 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

I've completed the previous event for, like, 90% (of the total number of bags possible to get), and the one before that for 75% - never knew there even is a grand prize. From what you're saying, it seems there's a significant chance of getting it for each player.


In theory, every play can get one.

It use to be if you got all possible gift bags, you'd have a guaranteed chance of getting it. Rather it was the first bag, or the last one possible, you'd get it at some point.

Not so sure how this one is being handled at the moment...

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 06:44 PM

View PostRogue Jedi, on 17 March 2017 - 08:11 AM, said:

if you have it already you got lucky, I have literaly never got the "grand prize" from the grab bag events, there tend to be 3+ a year and I usualy have 50+ redeems from pack purchases (but none this time)


same. ALthough other free stuff if good too, except for the stuff i don't want or will never use.

actually, that's usually quite a lot of stuff lol....

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 06:49 PM

View PostDavidStarr, on 17 March 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

I've completed the previous event for, like, 90% (of the total number of bags possible to get), and the one before that for 75% - never knew there even is a grand prize. From what you're saying, it seems there's a significant chance of getting it for each player.


I don't know if i would say there is a SIGNIFICANT chance, but there IS a chance that is boosted by the ;large' number of trials. There is also more confirmation bias is that more people are trying in greater numbers over a short period of time, and then posting about it. There probably is a boost to the chance, but I doubt it is a large one.





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