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#9541 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 02:15 AM

MY bad.
SSRM have.

#9542 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 03:32 PM

Do clans have rotary weapons ?

#9543 Leone

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 04:03 PM

Nope.

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 05:21 PM

View PostSpeedy Plysitkos, on 26 April 2021 - 09:53 AM, said:

So its not like, first 3 players in loosing team get +, ok.

Sometimes i dont understand the score if game is lost. For ex, I made 623 damage, still it was only =.
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That equal sign, as close as we can tell, is when your PSR rating for that drop falls around 0 PSR, unknown if rounded up/down or to the closest integer. Even with a down arrow, a player may be losing only 1 or 2 PSR points. And movement up/down is now a 50/50 split. From my games entered into that formula, usually 8-9 players move up, 1-2 may break even (=) while everyone else moves down, with.

As for Damage, damage only contributes approximately 45% of its damage to your MS, so that 623 damage equates to 280 MS pts, minus team damage.

With all of that said, do not worry about Tiers, or think of them as Green, Militia, Regular, Veteran and Elite, more or less, using BT terminology, and the higher in Tier you go, the better the players, or at least how to enhance their matchscores (dependent on one's school of thought) the the players are a mixed bag

#9545 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 11:07 PM

Ye.
Back in 2016, there was this +-1 tier spread around you in PUG. I guess its the same ?

#9546 chevy42083

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 09:19 AM

I'm pretty feast or famine with MRMs. At range, with someone peaking or running perpendicular to me... not so great. But if I can get them in the open... charge in, or they try to charge me... it is ON. So, I especially like them in maps like Solaris City where you end up with a shooting gallery down a street/alley. Gotta plan it just right on maps where you can drop into their canyon, leaving them in your sights as they run away for 400+ meters. They can really tear up the enemy.
SRMs have never been great to me as a primary weapon, other than paired with close range A/C / LBX.

View PostSpeedy Plysitkos, on 28 April 2021 - 11:07 PM, said:

Ye.
Back in 2016, there was this +-1 tier spread around you in PUG. I guess its the same ?

They have had to spread that out at times because of smaller player pools. (along with mixing groups into solo QP)
They had it set to try for a +/-1 spread for X minutes, then widen gap for a bit.
Not sure where its at now.
Also, groups screw things up, as players at different Tiers dropping together... obviously someone is out of place. At one point it went with the 'lowest skilled tier'... but people complained about that, so not sure where it is now.

Edited by chevy42083, 29 April 2021 - 09:45 AM.


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Posted 29 April 2021 - 10:05 AM

Quick question, Does The AMS ROF +15% bonus from the 8 piece omni pod set apply to clan laser ams? Its worded "CLAM AMS ROF +15%" so, I'm not sure if that's a general all ams's or just regular ams.

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 12:30 PM

View Postjemmos, on 29 April 2021 - 10:05 AM, said:

Quick question, Does The AMS ROF +15% bonus from the 8 piece omni pod set apply to clan laser ams? Its worded "CLAM AMS ROF +15%" so, I'm not sure if that's a general all ams's or just regular ams.


It applies to both varieties, just like having a bonus to "missile cooldown" applies to all types of that weapon.

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Posted 30 April 2021 - 09:58 AM

Apologies if this has already been answered in the previous 477 pages but...

What’s a decent Alpha to aim for by Mech weight class?

(By decent I mean something that’s playable and competitive by an average player rather than a 500 alpha Direwolf that explodes from heat when you fire once ������)

Thanks


Edited by Vamboozle, 30 April 2021 - 10:00 AM.


#9550 Leone

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Posted 30 April 2021 - 03:39 PM

That is not a quick question. I have a light with a 16 point alpha that's a blast and I love tearing up enemies with. 4 srm 2 Locust. I also have an assault with a 12 point alpha. 6 ac 2s for long range brawling.

You can have high dps low alpha mechs that are perfectly serviceable. Heck, my favourite mech I got my ace of spades in has a measly 35 point alpha.

Also, is your alpha strike a long beam or of varied range profiles? a mix of a ballistics and missiles? The ability to focus fire on specific components often trumps a high damage scattershot approach.

https://mwomercs.com...ting-thy-enemy/ goes over some build decisions in a bit of detail. I have a 112 point alpha direwolf in there that some consider a travesty due to it being a slow as heck redlining knife fighter.

~Leone.

Edited by Leone, 30 April 2021 - 04:03 PM.


#9551 Vamboozle

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Posted 01 May 2021 - 12:05 AM

Thanks that really helpful (and I suspected it might not be an easy answer)

I’m trying to take more of an interest in the mechanics this time around (and I’ve already improved over my pitiful performance 6/7 years ago).

What is in your linked thread now makes a lot more sense and it explains why my 54 alpha laser Vapor Eagle does less overall damage but more kills than my 36 alpha LBX/MG version (pin point vs splash damage)

#9552 Alexander of Macedon

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Posted 01 May 2021 - 03:48 AM

It's also worth remembering that maximizing alpha damage at the expense of heat economy, cycle time, range, &c. is not necessarily worthwhile.

You can cram a mech full of heavy lasers but do far less damage than lower-alpha builds because you spend most of your time cooling down, especially if you don't have good enough aim and judgement to make the most out of every shot.

Generally speaking lower-alpha higher-DPS builds are more forgiving of bad aim and judgement since you don't lose as much from taking a bad shot.

#9553 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 11:24 PM

Are there also events where you can get yourself a Hero mech for free ?

#9554 Gagis

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 11:41 PM

View PostSpeedy Plysitkos, on 04 May 2021 - 11:24 PM, said:

Are there also events where you can get yourself a Hero mech for free ?

There have been a few, but very VERY rarely. Like I think the Wolverine Quarantine was available in an event.

There's been more events with special loyalty versions of non-hero variants with a c-bill bonus.

Edited by Gagis, 04 May 2021 - 11:42 PM.


#9555 Aidan Crenshaw

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 11:42 PM

We had a "Cinquo de Mayo" event that ultimatively rewarded a "La Malinche" Banshee-Hero some time ago, but it's rare.

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 11:58 PM

View PostSpeedy Plysitkos, on 04 May 2021 - 11:24 PM, said:

Are there also events where you can get yourself a Hero mech for free ?


Yes, there are. Posted Image

This is my Hero Hunchback "Grid Iron". I won it in one such challenge:

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 01:17 PM

View PostVamboozle, on 30 April 2021 - 09:58 AM, said:

What’s a decent Alpha to aim for by Mech weight class?
(By decent I mean something that’s playable and competitive by an average player rather than a 500 alpha Direwolf that explodes from heat when you fire once ������)
Ballpark... Lights 30-40, Mediums 40-60, Heavies 60-80, Assaults 80. Generally going high is at expense of precision, while lower alpha builds tend to use more accurate weapons that don't need as much damage to kill or cripple a target.

View PostSpeedy Plysitkos, on 04 May 2021 - 11:24 PM, said:

Are there also events where you can get yourself a Hero mech for free ?

Once a year or so, usually. However, there are also events that reward Special mechs (which have a Hero-like C-Bill boost and a different default paint scheme) and if you're being frugal with your MC (not pissing away too much on cosmetics and ideally only grabbing them at 50% off, buying mechbays when they're 50% off etc), you're going to end up with a surplus to spend on hero mechs (obviously... buy at 50% off)

#9558 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 06 May 2021 - 11:50 AM

Interesting. Looking forward to it.

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 08:03 AM

Ok, so I noticed when you regulary play, you get those "caches". I got some common and also uncommon. Is there a higher level too ? Something like legendary cache with something special ?

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 08:14 AM

View PostSpeedy Plysitkos, on 08 May 2021 - 08:03 AM, said:

Ok, so I noticed when you regulary play, you get those "caches". I got some common and also uncommon. Is there a higher level too ? Something like legendary cache with something special ?

Rare and ultra rare too. Tho nothing super special in them either. At best a bit of MC but that is eeeeeeeextremely rare to see.





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