81 replies to this topic

[tvaughanx]

Sandpit, on 16 October 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

making blanket statements about a player you know nothing about proves YOU have no clue what you're talking about. I still have all of my MC AND premium time I obtained from founders. I don't have a founders mech so I get no c-bill bonus. So tell me again oh wise one how I don't know what it's like to play as a free player? Please, enlighten me. I'd love to hear it.

Game = free

Competitive game = free

Not spending time grinding and earning = pay money

Simple you spent money on the game before it came out you have mc you can buy mech bays you have founders mechs not very hard to explain - the wise one.

ohh and you played like i did before the cbill nerf

Edited by tvaughanx, 18 October 2013 - 05:24 AM.

[tvaughanx]

CypherHalo, on 16 October 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:

Well, to be fair, I don't think they expect anyone to buy EVERYTHING. However, that is as magnanimous as I get. The prices in this game are simply insane. Hawken sells mechs for $5 a pop and has far less mechs to sell. This game wants you to get 3 variants of the SAME mech in order to fully master it (that is a lot of time invested right there) and yet charges tons more (not to mention mech bays, a feature designed only to nickel and dime you as games like Hawken and League of Legends prove). The prices simply make no sense, especially when the supply is so plentiful. Even at $5 a pop, to buy every mech in this game would still be a very hefty amount. There is simply no reason a single mech should be $20 or more.

Yeah my whole point of this post is very simple it cost over 1500$ for all of this games content just simply outrageous to the point of lunacy. Hiding behind the free to play tag is 1500$+ of micro transactions sure you don't have to spend the money on it but is it fare to the BT MW fans to pay these prices to get the game they want and in this case the game they didn't want?

[Ecto Cooler]

tvaughanx, on 18 October 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

Yeah my whole point of this post is very simple it cost over 1500$ for all of this games content just simply outrageous to the point of lunacy. Hiding behind the free to play tag is 1500$+ of micro transactions sure you don't have to spend the money on it but is it fare to the BT MW fans to pay these prices to get the game they want and in this case the game they didn't want?

When you go to a store, do you buy everything in the entire store? Does the manager of the store expect you to buy its entire inventory, or only some of it that appeals to you?

Who cares how much the entire game costs? There isn't any price tag hiding anywhere.

Get over yourself.

[Lucity]

This thread makes me laugh.

[tvaughanx]

Ecto Cooler, on 18 October 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

When you go to a store, do you buy everything in the entire store? Does the manager of the store expect you to buy its entire inventory, or only some of it that appeals to you?

Who cares how much the entire game costs? There isn't any price tag hiding anywhere.

Get over yourself.

Its a video game not a store most video games have a set price for the game and its content this games set price is 1500$ for the whole game. What am i supposed to get over i don't understand i point out that MWO the whole game all of it is 1500$+ it is what it is. Lets see that would be World of Warcraft and all of the expansions at release price tags and 7 years of subscription for .0000000000001% of the content of wow. Although value is subjective it seems a little silly to have that price tag.

[Sandpit]

tvaughanx, on 18 October 2013 - 05:23 AM, said:

Simple you spent money on the game before it came out you have mc you can buy mech bays you have founders mechs not very hard to explain - the wise one.

ohh and you played like i did before the cbill nerf

what part of I don't have founder's mechs was not clear? My package didn't include any. I haven't spent any of my MC nor have I used my premium time. In other words, I have played as a free player for those that seem to be slow. So again, please tell me how I don't understand? You sir, are just showing your ignorance at this point

[tvaughanx]

Sandpit, on 18 October 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

what part of I don't have founder's mechs was not clear? My package didn't include any. I haven't spent any of my MC nor have I used my premium time. In other words, I have played as a free player for those that seem to be slow. So again, please tell me how I don't understand? You sir, are just showing your ignorance at this point

Ok so from day one you have had money in this game so how can YOU a person that has never played as a free to play player know how it is to play as a a free to play player.

Now as for you never spending any mc buying mech bays i guess not using your phoenix mechs not my fault you buy things not to use them i mean what ever. The fact is your tags shows that you have had money in it from day one so championing that this is free to play game when you don't know what F2P in this game is like. Its like president bush teaching linguistics to Noam Chomsky

Edited by tvaughanx, 18 October 2013 - 09:06 AM.

[Ecto Cooler]

tvaughanx, on 18 October 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

The fact is your tags shows that you have had money in it from day one so championing that this is free to play game when you don't know what FP2. Its like president bush teaching a speech class to Noam Chomsky

When did F2P turn into charity. It's just a way to describe a business model. It isn't meant to literally be completely free. How would the company pay for expenses?

tvaughanx, on 18 October 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

Its a video game not a store most video games have a set price for the game and its content this games set price is 1500$ for the whole game. What am i supposed to get over i don't understand i point out that MWO the whole game all of it is 1500$+ it is what it is. Lets see that would be World of Warcraft and all of the expansions at release price tags and 7 years of subscription for .0000000000001% of the content of wow. Although value is subjective it seems a little silly to have that price tag.

You keep saying the price tag like it matters. Don't pay into the game if you think it's too much. Why are you arguing with people who disagree and buy content in the game?

[tvaughanx]

Ecto Cooler, on 18 October 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

When did F2P turn into charity. It's just a way to describe a business model. It isn't meant to literally be completely free. How would the company pay for expenses?




You keep saying the price tag like it matters. Don't pay into the game if you think it's too much. Why are you arguing with people who disagree and buy content in the game?

Your arguing with me that this is fair and affordable price for a game and its content im stating that 1500$ is very steep and unreasonable only thing i have bought on this game is mech bays witch is need for progress an some premium (witch is worthless now with cbill nerf). 2 weeks ago i was on a skyrim kick i have had since it came out an have both dlc 100$ all together. I have 278 hours in the game an im 47% complete i thought wow this game has bang for buck let me see what MWO's price is so i did the math an wow MWO has a 1500$ price tag for what is essentially rinse and repeat game play. I just found it amazing because for what they deliver an what they charge its just obtuse.

Also i don't know what world you live in but in mine Price Tag Matters.

Edited by tvaughanx, 18 October 2013 - 09:39 AM.

[Sandpit]

tvaughanx, on 18 October 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

i guess not using your phoenix mechs not my fault you buy things not to use them i mean what ever.
*snip* I'm ignorant and just want to argue with you because you're a founder so you don't know what I'm talking about

nope, haven't gotten my phoenix mechs yet. Try again sir. I'm all out of troll food though so we are done here. I think it's quite apparent at this point you are just wanting to argue.

[Whatzituyah]

Don't worry man I agree with you. The price of paints is a bit too high the "amount of paints x the cost for the paints is ridiculous. If I can do the math I would but right now I basically have to do math for my GED classes maybe afterwards.

[Mechteric]

nobody needs all the mechs, colors, or patterns. Its a la carte so people can choose only whats important to them.

Just imagine if satellite/cable TV were this way. Sure it might cost you 1,000 a month to buy all 2,000 channels (for example). But if you only need 10 channels its only 5 bucks.

[tvaughanx]

CapperDeluxe, on 23 October 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

nobody needs all the mechs, colors, or patterns. Its a la carte so people can choose only whats important to them.

Just imagine if satellite/cable TV were this way. Sure it might cost you 1,000 a month to buy all 2,000 channels (for example). But if you only need 10 channels its only 5 bucks.

The most expensive package is only 300$ also its not a subscribed service its a video game.

[Kmieciu]

tvaughanx, on 18 October 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

Your arguing with me that this is fair and affordable price for a game and its content im stating that 1500$ is very steep and unreasonable only thing i have bought on this game is mech bays witch is need for progress an some premium (witch is worthless now with cbill nerf). 2 weeks ago i was on a skyrim kick i have had since it came out an have both dlc 100$ all together. I have 278 hours in the game an im 47% complete i thought wow this game has bang for buck let me see what MWO's price is so i did the math an wow MWO has a 1500$ price tag for what is essentially rinse and repeat game play. I just found it amazing because for what they deliver an what they charge its just obtuse.
Also i don't know what world you live in but in mine Price Tag Matters.

I completely agree with you! Bethesda makes the most content for your dollar. I bet there is more content in Skyrim that I did't even see during the 100+ hours I played, than in the whole MWO. F2P model is the biggest rip-off in game industry. Paid DLCs feel fair in comparison.

Some people argue that you don't have to buy all of the content in MWO, but fail to see that in a boxed game, you would get all that content for $60.

Edited by Kmieciu, 24 October 2013 - 02:40 AM.

[MadcatX]

Kmieciu, on 24 October 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

I completely agree with you! Bethesda makes the most content for your dollar. I bet there is more content in Skyrim that I did't even see during the 100+ hours I played, than in the whole MWO. F2P model is the biggest ripp-off in game industry. Paid DLCs feel fair in comparison.

Some people argue that you don't have to buy all of the content in MWO, but fail to see that in a boxed game, you would get all that content for $60.

Free to play is the biggest rip-off...

Anyways, OP, why don`t you calculate the total cost of buying all the heroes in leagues of legends, go to their forums, complain about how much all THEIR content costs and feel free to return here with the results.

[Kmieciu]

MadcatX, on 24 October 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

Free to play is the biggest rip-off...

Anyways, OP, why don`t you calculate the total cost of buying all the heroes in leagues of legends, go to their forums, complain about how much all THEIR content costs and feel free to return here with the results.

MWO might be more or less of a rip-off than LOL - that does not change the fact it's a rip-off.
How about comparing MWO to GTA5 ? They invested $265 million in order to produce it and they charge $60 for all the content. And guess what? I can get any car and paint it any color I like. This is a secret of a successful game: give players a lot of stuff for an affordable price.

[Randalf Yorgen]

tvaughanx, on 08 October 2013 - 04:22 AM, said:

hero an champ mech's 85250MC

The lights 12875MC

Medium mech's 42525MC

Heavy mech's 51925MC

Assult Mech's 66735MC

All cammo spec's 84000MC

1 of all cockpit items 10750MC

94 mech bay's 31500MC

1 year of premuim 25000MC

total----------------------410560MC

total dollar amount $1649.15

1mc=2500cb

Med's assaults an heavys = 161185x2500=402962500cb

at an average of 400000cb an hour that is 1007 hours

that is roughtly 1/8 of a year each hour is a little
less than a than a dollar

at 8$ an hour wage 8x1007=8056$

it is more cost effective to pay cash than cbill's so who
wants to pay the total cost for all the content in MWO?

Please note i am just listing the cost of all the content i am completely impartial to this i do not care i have the mechs i want i am not attempting to defame or slander pgi.

Minimum wage in Canada is a little more than $8.00. More like $11.00. Helps if you use the numbers from the right Country. Impartiality just went out the window

Edited by Randalf Yorgen, 24 October 2013 - 03:07 AM.

[Sandpit]

then play for free. period.

[tvaughanx]

Randalf Yorgen, on 24 October 2013 - 03:06 AM, said:

Minimum wage in Canada is a little more than $8.00. More like $11.00. Helps if you use the numbers from the right Country. Impartiality just went out the window

what are you getting at the min wage in usa is 7.25 i was just using a generalized amt.... and if i use the numbers from Canada it makes my point look even better i fail to understand what you are getting at.

[MadcatX]

Kmieciu, on 24 October 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

MWO might be more or less of a rip-off than LOL - that does not change the fact it's a rip-off.
How about comparing MWO to GTA5 ?They invested $265 million in order to produce it and they charge $60 for all the content. And guess what? I can get any car and paint it any color I like. This is a secret of a successful game: give players a lot of stuff for an affordable price.

Actually I just drew the comparison to LoL so that if any reply stating that THAT game is a rip-off, then any other argument made by that person is inherently invalid.