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[Starquestman]

We have assault mechs that boat missiles, assault mechs that boat lasers, but no assault mech can handle more than one Gauss rifle or AC 10. Most will never have more than two AC5. Mech variants are being deliberately withheld to prevent users from getting their hands on AC40 assaults. I've been saying this for a while now but all I hear is that "it's just not fair to all the little mechs". I've waited maybe a year for one - just one variant - and nothing. No Victor, no Highlander, and now it doesn't look like the Battlemaster either. I feel like, in our attempt to become fair and balanced, we've simply done away with all the good guns and restricted firepower of the one class that was supposed to have it most. Are we EVER going to get a ballistic assault?

This is intended for the devs because, as impressive and fun as this game is, I'm honestly beginning to get disappointed with it. Or is there another factor completely unrelated that I'm just not seeing?

[Johnny Reb]

Well, ballistics pretty much rule the field currently you make an assault that does that and its gonna be that assault mainly. I mean drops with 6-8 of them in the game.

[Kahoumono]

The developers probably deliberately hold back on a ballistic assault because they know all hell will break loose if you could put on a few AC10s + PPCs. Why? Cause ghost heat can't fix the pinpoint alpha problem. I would like to have a few more cockpit trinkets instead.

[Kardax]

Battletech ...and the fear of double ac 20 brawlers.

Edited by Kardax, 09 October 2013 - 09:42 PM.

[Ghogiel]

Starquestman, on 09 October 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

Are we EVER going to get a ballistic assault?

Likely.

There are 3 that come to mind. We will see one of them I bet as an end game wolf's dragoons perk...

[DamnCatte]

It'll happen eventually, though they do seem to have trouble balancing things as they are. If you want to run dual AC/20s so bad, pick a Jagermech or a Cataphract, and play wingman to an Atlas.

[Hexenhammer]

So assaults are unbalanced because they can't boat AC/40s.

Can I have a hit of what your smokin'?

[Infrasound]

No, they are not, there are enormous trade offs to running an ac40 or dual gauss heavy, if you aren't able to be babysat or run quickly you die.

[Johnny Reb]

2 ac20 in an assault is easy! If, a 65 heavy can do it, assault can do it better. With better effect! Hence, the problem!

[Hexenhammer]

Starquestman, on 09 October 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

We have assault mechs that boat missiles, assault mechs that boat lasers, but no assault mech can handle more than one Gauss rifle or AC 10. Most will never have more than two AC5. Mech variants are being deliberately withheld to prevent users from getting their hands on AC40 assaults. I've been saying this for a while now but all I hear is that "it's just not fair to all the little mechs". I've waited maybe a year for one - just one variant - and nothing. No Victor, no Highlander, and now it doesn't look like the Battlemaster either. I feel like, in our attempt to become fair and balanced, we've simply done away with all the good guns and restricted firepower of the one class that was supposed to have it most. Are we EVER going to get a ballistic assault?

This is intended for the devs because, as impressive and fun as this game is, I'm honestly beginning to get disappointed with it. Or is there another factor completely unrelated that I'm just not seeing?

Johnny Reb, on 09 October 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

2 ac20 in an assault is easy! If, a 65 heavy can do it, assault can do it better. With better effect! Hence, the problem!

OH! He wants the King Crab in the game. Well why didn't he just say that?

Edited by Hexenhammer, 09 October 2013 - 10:37 PM.

[Johnny Reb]

I want an Urbie! Still, more likely to happen!

[xenoglyph]

I agree. And with things how they are currently ballistic Assault boats would be OP. But that's the problem. We should be able to have balanced ballistic Assault boats. Lower the heat threshold, increase heat dissipation, get rid of ghost heat. I'm not even going to ask for a convergence fix because I know they can't do it properly.

Edited by xenoglyph, 09 October 2013 - 10:38 PM.

[Johnny Reb]

Preaching to the choir, at least for me. I also think mediums should either be smaller or faster.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 09 October 2013 - 10:39 PM.

[Hexenhammer]

Johnny Reb, on 09 October 2013 - 10:36 PM, said:

I want an Urbie! Still, more likely to happen!

Dude! They could name the Hero Urbanmech "The Honey Badger"

[Lyoto Machida]

Hexenhammer, on 09 October 2013 - 10:34 PM, said:

OH! He wants the King Crab in the game. Well why didn't he just say that?

Wow...that is a crazy looking shot.

[King Picollo]

Any large dual ballistic assault would dominate the battlefield. As much as it's seems like a good idea it's better to limit them as they have.

Edited by King Picollo, 10 October 2013 - 02:30 AM.

[Wolfways]

It's not the mechs that are the problem, it's AC's that are OP and need looked at.

[Piney II]

I'm just going to save my C bills for a dual gauss / dual AC20 Spider..........

Edited by Piney, 10 October 2013 - 03:29 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Kardax, on 09 October 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

Battletech ...and the fear of double ac 20 brawlers.

We would have to have 4 AC20 to match the raw damage of a TT Mech with twin AC20. Two AC20 hits would ruin/cripple any light Mech on TT

[Captain Stiffy]

When working to define the scale of weapons in the game AC/20 is historically a weapon to be greatly feared. It is about where it should be.

This weapon alone does not unbalance assaults anyway.