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#21 Carrioncrows

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:13 AM

Like yeah, WHERE did these images come from?

I've searched and couldn't find their source, was it from a early stream?

#22 Kaylos Thex

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:47 AM

These were screengrabs from last night's NGNG live stream.

Phil put up some teaser shots for us near the end.

Edited by Kaylos Thex, 12 October 2013 - 02:48 AM.


#23 Arkmaus

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:29 AM

Link to the livestream (if it was recorded)?

Thanks!

#24 Spheroid

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:41 AM

I don't think people are interpreting that image correctly. The SH is going to be very tall. Even if the Jenner comes to the height of the upper leg it will be taller than the Cent. The Jenner should be photoshopped so the footpads of the two mechs are at the same level. We are talking Quickdraw size here. The size of the Jenner in the new position can be derived from perspective lines since its feet are parallel and traceable to the horizion.

Edited by Spheroid, 12 October 2013 - 06:00 AM.


#25 Adridos

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:07 AM

View PostSpheroid, on 12 October 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

We are talking Quickdraw size here.


Nope, Kintaro or less in size (just slightly higher than a Cent).

Quickdraw... :(
Man, either you have no idea how big that one is, or have some severe miscalculations in that height theorem of yours.

#26 Asyres

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:16 AM

View PostSpheroid, on 12 October 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

I don't think people are interpreting that image correctly. The SH is going to be very tall. Even if the Jenner comes to the height of the upper leg it will be taller than the Cent. The Jenner should be photoshopped so the footpads of the two mechs are at the same level. We are talking Quickdraw size here. The size of the Jenner in the new position can be derived from perspective lines since its feet are parallel and traceable to the horizion.


Perspective doesn't work the way you think that it does. Moving something "downward" moves it closer to the camera (at least in the case of this image). Doing this without resizing the Jenner would make it appear smaller than it is (and even Shadowhawk appear larger).

Edit: pressed post too early :(

Edited by Asyres, 12 October 2013 - 06:19 AM.


#27 Bromineberry

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:18 AM

There are size comparisons for all mechs:
Thunderbolt
Locust
Shadow Hawk
Battlemaster

- Locust seems fine
- Battlemaster seems fine
- Thunderbold is wider but less tall than a centurion, I like it, it looks very compact and brutal that way
- Shadow Hawk is taller than a Centurion
- Shadow Hawk is taller than a Cataphract! WTF?

The Shadow HAwk is WAY to big imho!

Edited by Bromineberry, 12 October 2013 - 06:25 AM.


#28 Spheroid

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:23 AM

View PostAsyres, on 12 October 2013 - 06:16 AM, said:

Perspective doesn't work the way you think that it does. Moving something "downward" moves it closer to the camera (at least in the case of this image). Doing this without resizing the Jenner would make it appear smaller than it is (and even Shadowhawk appear larger).

Edit: pressed post too early :(


No, you scale the Jenner bigger and closer over the Shadow Hawk then once it is scaled you move the layer adjacent. I know how to approach it. Feel free to visually argue your point. I don't mean to move the image before it is resized.

Edited by Spheroid, 12 October 2013 - 06:33 AM.


#29 Barantor

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:27 AM

Here is the link to NGNG, the source for the images.

http://www.nogutsnog...rdseen.html#new

#30 FupDup

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:27 AM

View PostBromineberry, on 12 October 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

There are size comparisons for all mechs:
Thunderbolt
Locust
Shadow Hawk
Battlemaster

- Locust seems fine
- Battlemaster seems fine
- Thunderbold is wider but less tall than a centurion, I like it, it looks very compact and brutal that way
- Shadow Hawk is taller than a Centurion
- Shadow Hawk is taller than a Cataphract! WTF?

The Shadow HAwk is WAY to big imho!

Uh oh:
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Damnit, I got my hopes up for nothin'. Business as usual, nothing to see here. Medium mech scaling working as intended™.

Edited by FupDup, 12 October 2013 - 06:30 AM.


#31 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:31 AM

You guys realize a CTF isn't very tall, right?

#32 FupDup

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:32 AM

View PostOneEyed Jack, on 12 October 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

You guys realize a CTF isn't very tall, right?

The CTF is an average sized heavy.
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Edited by FupDup, 12 October 2013 - 06:36 AM.


#33 Jman5

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:37 AM

Oh for the love of god... WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING MEDIUMS SO FREAKING BIG? I don't care what the lore says; this is a balance issue.

You guys seem to have no problem making lights tiny, why do you insist on turning mediums into behemoths?

#34 FupDup

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:42 AM

Kintaro:
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Shawk:
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The Shadow Hawk is slightly taller than the Kintaro. GG close.

Edited by FupDup, 12 October 2013 - 06:42 AM.


#35 Barantor

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:46 AM

Shadowhawk is the size of a Treb, just like I figured.

Shadowhawk isn't nearly as wide as the cataphract at least.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:53 AM

Looks like the legs are the most over-sized part, those are stilts!!

But, I'm still rockin' the Trebuchet's and I see enough Kintaro's around, ShadowHawk should be fine.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:58 AM

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#38 Charons Little Helper

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:15 AM

The Shadowhawk is tall - but it's torso actually isn't that big. I will say - I don't think I'll be dropping my leg armor as much as I usually do. :(

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:18 AM

So, the Shadow Hawk is bigger than the Thunderbolt. That absolutely makes sense. LOL!

One would think that at least, when they're actively working on a bunch of mechs together - the Phoenix mechs - that they could get the scaling right. Nope. They don't.

So what is it? Incompetence? Ignorance? Or is there actual thought behind it? I can hardly believe it...

#40 FupDup

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:19 AM

View PostGODzillaGSPB, on 12 October 2013 - 07:18 AM, said:

So, the Shadow Hawk is bigger than the Thunderbolt. That absolutely makes sense. LOL!

One would think that at least, when they're actively working on a bunch of mechs together - the Phoenix mechs - that they could get the scaling right. Nope. They don't.

So what is it? Incompetence? Ignorance? Or is there actual thought behind it? I can hardly believe it...

It's deliberate thought. They obey the TT bible when it comes to scaling things 40+ tons.





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