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[WarHippy]

Roadbeer, on 31 October 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

I was waiting for that, I demand a rematch.

Sorry, but no rematches for I have retired as the champion. Any future encounters where I might lose are nothing more than an act of benevolence with me taking pitty on you.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Dagnome, on 22 October 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

There will not be a direct way to split pugs and premades no matter what PGI does,

Not true.

If you are grouped in the social tab and you hit launch and drop as a group you get put into one queue. Similar to how 12 mans only get put in queues with other 12 mans. If you are not groped and you just hit launch you get put into another queue.

[Kunae]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 31 October 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Not true.

If you are grouped in the social tab and you hit launch and drop as a group you get put into one queue. Similar to how 12 mans only get put in queues with other 12 mans. If you are not groped and you just hit launch you get put into another queue.

Which would never work.

Team of 11 drops.... need one... etc, etc.

[Kunae]

Death Storm, on 23 October 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

Every topic is related to the first topic which is describing why I believe that the queue for PUGS should be Separate from the Queues Premades (easy concept it should be Premade vs Premades and PUGS VS PUGS) that way the fights remain even and fair.

No fight will ever be "even and 'fair'". That is loser talk, and only people who can't handle competition talk that way.

RussianWolf, on 29 October 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

I've seen some of these "competitive" teams in action.
"okay guys, Target Bravo" everyone shoots Bravo until he drops. "next up is Golf" Everyone shoot Golf until he drops.
I don't even see the fun in that. Someone else telling me how to play? Nope, ain't happening.

Man, that's just idiotic. You must be very young, to have that attitude.

Here, let me enlighten you... this is a team game. Teams have leaders. Leaders tell you how to play, so that everyone is doing the best thing for the team to win.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Kunae, on 31 October 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Which would never work.

Team of 11 drops.... need one... etc, etc.

sure it would. allow pugs the option to "fill in the blanks". Problem solved. OR let the 11 man choose to go as 11 and be down a man. or like it is now. You can drop together as 2-4 and 12. Change it to 2-10 and pull 2 from the team queue.

Its really not rocket science to separate the queues.

[Kunae]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 31 October 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

sure it would. allow pugs the option to "fill in the blanks". Problem solved. OR let the 11 man choose to go as 11 and be down a man. or like it is now. You can drop together as 2-4 and 12. Change it to 2-10 and pull 2 from the team queue.

Its really not rocket science to separate the queues.

No, it's not rocket surgery either.

But how some people want it, is just silly. As I and other have posted in many other threads:

1-queue As the pug queue is now. Max 4 person groups.
2-queue Anything, any number.

Oh, and OP?

Cue =


Queue =

Edited by Kunae, 31 October 2013 - 10:23 AM.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Join this discussion. Its better. Its about 2 elo scores per person. One for solo drops and one for team drops. And its better because It has a poll.
http://mwomercs.com/...o-and-team-elo/

[Kunae]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 31 October 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

Join this discussion. Its better. Its about 2 elo scores per person. One for solo drops and one for team drops. And its better because It has a poll.
http://mwomercs.com/...o-and-team-elo/

We've already chatted in that one. And that's what should be done, and if so, we wouldn't need multiple queues.

[Grey Death Storm]

Kunae, on 31 October 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

No fight will ever be "even and 'fair'". That is loser talk, and only people who can't handle competition talk that way.


Man, that's just idiotic. You must be very young, to have that attitude.

Here, let me enlighten you... this is a team game. Teams have leaders. Leaders tell you how to play, so that everyone is doing the best thing for the team to win.

So what you are telling me is to Suck it up, life is not fair, war is not fair,Question for you do think its a fair fight when you have four premade enemy mechs Targeting you, Where was your inspirational values when they started the great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. when cry me a river players whined and whined to the developers

And Technically Russian Wolf Is correct and he certainly does not need any enlightenment or battle tactic from you, My idea removed that it took away the the disadvantage of disorganised groups PUGS going up against organised groups Premades so it was PUGS VS PUGS and Premades VS Premades anyway you say you like a challenge why not test your metal against another Premade groups or are you one of those who like to fight disorganised groups because you know you can win.

[WarHippy]

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

So what you are telling me is to Suck it up, life is not fair, war is not fair,Question for you do think its a fair fight when you have four premade enemy mechs Targeting you, Where was your inspirational values when they started the great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. when cry me a river players whined and whined to the developers

And Technically Russian Wolf Is correct and he certainly does not need any enlightenment or battle tactic from you, My idea removed that it took away the the disadvantage of disorganised groups PUGS going up against organised groups Premades so it was PUGS VS PUGS and Premades VS Premades anyway you say you like a challenge why not test your metal against another Premade groups or are you one of those who like to fight disorganised groups because you know you can win.

Why is it when people disagree with people like you it must be because they can't hack it with the big boys? This is the same tired argument that people use in WoW when they get killed on a PVP server while leveling. Let's say you got everything you wanted with separated queues. Who are you going to blame when you still die, or when the other team steamrolls you? It is going to happen, and you are still going to cry.

By the way life, nor war are fair so it is probably for the best if you just suck it up.

Edited by WarHippy, 31 October 2013 - 12:51 PM.

[Kunae]

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

So what you are telling me is to Suck it up, life is not fair, war is not fair,Question for you do think its a fair fight when you have four premade enemy mechs Targeting you, Where was your inspirational values when they started the great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. when cry me a river players whined and whined to the developers

And Technically Russian Wolf Is correct and he certainly does not need any enlightenment or battle tactic from you, My idea removed that it took away the the disadvantage of disorganised groups PUGS going up against organised groups Premades so it was PUGS VS PUGS and Premades VS Premades anyway you say you like a challenge why not test your metal against another Premade groups or are you one of those who like to fight disorganised groups because you know you can win.

You have no clue. You are hyper and argumentative, and you take umbrage when people don't agree with what you poorly communicate.

We understand your angst is based on an irrational fear of "the evil premade". Your fear and angst are just that; Irrational.

All "premades" are, are 2-4 people who happen to drop together. That does not guarantee that they are not all drooling, helmet-wearing, window-lickers. Dropping in a group with other people doesn't guarantee success, nor competence.

Here's a hint for you... this is not, and will never be, the single-player game that you yearn for. This is a team game, and you must learn to play with others, even if you're not pre-grouped with them. While the map and chat tools, in-game currently, are not the best, they do suffice.

Rather than learning how to play and organize the groups you drop with, you choose to come on here and want the Devs to change the rules, to suit you. Since you have chosen to play by your own rules rather than adapting to reality, your angst is self-generated, and should only be laughed at... not listened to.

Edited by Kunae, 31 October 2013 - 12:36 PM.

[Roadbeer]

Kunae, on 31 October 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

You have no clue. You are hyper and argumentative, and you take umbrage when people don't agree with what you poorly communicate.

We understand your angst is based on an irrational fear of "the evil premade". Your fear and angst are just that; Irrational.

All "premades" are, are 2-4 people who happen to drop together. That does not guarantee that they are not all drooling, helmet-wearing, window-lickers. Dropping in a group with other people doesn't guarantee success, nor competence.

Here's a hint for you... this is not, and will never be, the single-player game that you yearn for. This is a team game, and you must learn to play with others, even if you're not pre-grouped with them. While the map and chat tools, in-game currently, are not the best, they do suffice.

Rather than learning how to play and organize the groups you drop with, you choose to come on here and want the Devs to change the rules, to suit you. Since you have chosen to play by your own rules rather than adapting to reality, your angst is self-generated, and should only be laughed at... not listened to.

::Mic Drop::

[Texas Merc]

Roadbeer, on 31 October 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

::Mic Drop::

You dropped the mic because you had to check on that new cake in the oven didn't you?

[Roadbeer]

Texas Merc, on 31 October 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

You dropped the mic because you had to check on that new cake in the oven didn't you?

The K Town Cake

does not require baking.

Well, it does, but in a sense

it does it's own baking,

given that it is so dense,

gravitational forces cause

the molten core to bake

the exterior.

Great care must be

taken when cutting the

K Town cake, as basically

it's a fusion bomb at it's core.

[Grey Death Storm]

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You have no clue. You are hyper and argumentative, and you take umbrage when people don't agree with what you poorly communicate.

We understand your angst is based on an irrational fear of "the evil premade". Your fear and angst are just that; Irrational.

All "premades" are, are 2-4 people who happen to drop together. That does not guarantee that they are not all drooling, helmet-wearing, window-lickers. Dropping in a group with other people doesn't guarantee success, nor competence.

Here's a hint for you... this is not, and will never be, the single-player game that you yearn for. This is a team game, and you must learn to play with others, even if you're not pre-grouped with them. While the map and chat tools, in-game currently, are not the best, they do suffice.

Rather than learning how to play and organize the groups you drop with, you choose to come on here and want the Devs to change the rules, to suit you. Since you have chosen to play by your own rules rather than adapting to reality, your angst is self-generated, and should only be laughed at... not listened to.

What a load of dribble stop trying put word in my mouth, It took you four Paragraphs to write all that i am fully aware what type game this is, technically you are the one getting aggressive, oblivious you did not like my last post, I have freedom of speech.

Here's a hint for you... I am and never have been one of those who cried to devs for changes i.e. great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. Also I have read lots post with bad spelling and punctuation worse than mine in this thread and you don't see me crying about it so is that your only excuse having ago my spelling?

also please stop starting paragraphis with "Here's a hint for you..." or "You have no clue." as it is extremely ignorant and may not receive such hostile come backs in future maybe you should re think your grammar better

Edited by Death Storm, 31 October 2013 - 01:12 PM.

[Dodger79]

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

So what you are telling me is to Suck it up, life is not fair, war is not fair,Question for you do think its a fair fight when you have four premade enemy mechs Targeting you, Where was your inspirational values when they started the great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. when cry me a river players whined and whined to the developers

And Technically Russian Wolf Is correct and he certainly does not need any enlightenment or battle tactic from you, My idea removed that it took away the the disadvantage of disorganised groups PUGS going up against organised groups Premades so it was PUGS VS PUGS and Premades VS Premades anyway you say you like a challenge why not test your metal against another Premade groups or are you one of those who like to fight disorganised groups because you know you can win.

Have you ever played any multiplayer games on the internet? It's not just in MWO, that in team games actual teams can play together. In Battlefield, Call of Duty etc. i dropped with a bunch of friends in Teamspeak on a server and played as a team. That's the frigging sense of _multi_player, that you can play together and not only against multiple others.

Again, a couple of PUGs with atleast some kind of situational awareness and common sense can easily make the impression of a premade. On the other hand, not every 2-4 men premade plays competetive. In my unit for example we play competetive in the 12-queue and in smaller groups it's just for fun. Everyone plays the Mech he wants, even if it is bad build. It's all about the fun playing together, not to crush unorganized enemies.

[WarHippy]

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

What a load of dribble stop trying put word in my mouth, It took you four Paragraphs to write all that i am fully aware what type game this is, technically you are the one getting aggressive this, oblivious you did not like my last post, I have freedom of speech.

Mic Drop is considered 4 paragraphs now?
As for freedom of speech I see that red star under your name and you are clearly a communist so no free speech for you.

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

Here's a hint for you... I am and never have been one of those who cried to devs for changes great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. Also I have read lots post with bad spelling and punctuation worse than mine in this thread and you don't see me crying about is so is that your only excuse having ago my spelling?

"I am and never have been..." That is both impressive and lackluster.

[Kunae]

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

What a load of dribble stop trying put word in my mouth, It took you four Paragraphs to write all that i am fully aware what type game this is, technically you are the one getting aggressive, oblivious you did not like my last post, I have freedom of speech.

Here's a hint for you... I am and never have been one of those who cried to devs for changes i.e. great Nerf on Weapons, Heat and Mech Hard Points. Also I have read lots post with bad spelling and punctuation worse than mine in this thread and you don't see me crying about it so is that your only excuse having ago my spelling?

also please stop starting paragraphis with "Here's a hint for you..." or "You have no clue." as it is extremely ignorant and may not receive such hostile come backs in future maybe you should re think your grammar better

No, I made no mention of your spelling, nor your lack of proper punctuation(Other than your misuse of the word "Cue"). Your message is virtually unintelligible.

Your attempts at misdirection, and claims that you are not being understood, are silly. We've distilled what you are trying to QQ about, and dismissed it as irrational. You continuing to blather on and on about this whiney topic won't change that.

Edited by Kunae, 31 October 2013 - 01:23 PM.

[Throe]

Couple of problems:

1) You're using the word Clan like most people use it correctly in any other game. As the "Clans" are actually a separate and distinct part of this game, it can't be used that way here, you're just going to confuse people. Call it a Mercenary Corps, or a Guild. In some cases, at this point, there are player organizations attempting to be affiliated with the actual "Clans" of MechWarrior, but since that hasn't been implemented in game yet, those connections are purely speculative for now.

2) Any premade queue of 12 players is only matched against other fully premade groups of 12 players. A premade Lance of 4 players can be placed into a game with Pick-Up Group players(PUGs), which consist of other players added to the fight by the Match Maker. So 12 man vs PUG is not currently possible.

So, with those two points cleared up, what are you asking for?

[Roadbeer]

Death Storm, on 31 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

I have freedom of speech.

Technically, No.

You are on a PRIVATE forum and are PERMITTED to express your opinion on it, something that CAN be revoked with or without cause.

Inversely, others are PERMITTED to tell you that your opinion is wrong.

That's the problem with Forumites, they ASSUME that their #1A Rights (which, correct me if I'm wrong, Canada does not necessarily have), extend to a Private Company's property.