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[XphR]

I think we've been left to rot.

[Turist0AT]

Turist0AT, on 14 February 2014 - 02:46 AM, said:

bump. This problem needs attention. Stop ignoring us!

Damn you are so right, me from the past!

[DEN_Ninja]

Ugh. You know how storm troopers can't hit the broadside of a barn?

Pretty sure they could tear off my ears.

[zudukai]

25 pages and i can count less then a handful of people that like how messy the boxes are, THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, change the shape already dammit.

[MATRAKA14]

This mess has to be fixed, the catapult is alredy a big mech compared to other heavies. Without the ears, it's comparable with the stalker in size! but this is too much. Also the K2 medium laser ears are ugly and unnecessary big.

Edited by MATRAKA14, 02 March 2014 - 06:16 AM.

[OmniJackal]

Put my cats back to the way they were PGI. This is not negotiable.

[zudukai]

MATRAKA14, on 02 March 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:

This mess has to be fixed, the catapult is alredy a big mech compared to other heavies. Without the ears, it's comparable with the stalker in size! but this is too much. Also the K2 medium laser ears are ugly and unnecessary big.

qft

[Praehotec8]

Please fix this!!! Put the catapult's missiles back the way they were, or at least, all inside the missile box.

Edited by Praehotec8, 05 March 2014 - 12:55 AM.

[Amsro]

The Catapult is under the mat of "we're looking into it".

[KnowBuddy]

Amsro, on 05 March 2014 - 08:14 AM, said:

The Catapult is under the mat of "we're looking into it".

Nobody uses CPLT-A1 or CPLT-C4 anymore... so I guess technically we don't "see" this problem anymore.

Just because you sunk art resources into it doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do to fix it!

[Amsro]

KnowBuddy, on 05 March 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Nobody uses CPLT-A1 or CPLT-C4 anymore... so I guess technically we don't "see" this problem anymore.

Just because you sunk art resources into it doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do to fix it!

I do take my A1 Trollcat out now and then. My Jester I still take because its not as broken. (I don't use PPC on it)

But I do miss the smaller missile pods to be sure.



Of all the things they could have spent that time on. The Catapult was not broken.

[MATRAKA14]

Usually the militaries don't shoot all their rokets at once, what if the look of one single srm2 firing is somthing like this?


http://s16.postimg.o...snc5/rokets.gif

and then they make the same with the other srm/lrm

Edited by MATRAKA14, 06 March 2014 - 07:43 AM.

[Malleus011]

I just added it to my sig to save me repeating myself.

I do wish they'd at least give us a simple code reversion. If they're going to sweep the problem under the rug, at least go back to the old look and *then* ignore us.

[DEN_Ninja]

As I understand it they will go through and do resizing on mechs but it is a slower proccess because they would have to redo a hella lot of things.

I just want my pretty ears back and not these gaudy earrings. Akin to having plugs on my ears except worse.

[Jin Ma]

MATRAKA14, on 06 March 2014 - 06:14 AM, said:

they did that with the Orion. just block out unused tubes. instead of going through the effort of remodeling a laucnher with smaller tube counts.

MATRAKA14, on 02 March 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:

This mess has to be fixed, the catapult is alredy a big mech compared to other heavies. Without the ears, it's comparable with the stalker in size! but this is too much. Also the K2 medium laser ears are ugly and unnecessary big.

i'd just like to correct the misconception that the addons create a larger hitbox for the catapult. Hitbox geometry is separate from the model.

i would like to see them fix the A1 launcher as well. but i think using that argument won't get us anywhere, because it will seem like we don't know what we're arguing for.

Edited by Jin Ma, 06 March 2014 - 09:24 AM.

[KnowBuddy]

Jin Ma, on 06 March 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

they did that with the Orion. just block out unused tubes. instead of going through the effort of remodeling a laucnher with smaller tube counts.


i'd just like to correct the misconception that the addons create a larger hitbox for the catapult. Hitbox geometry is separate from the model.

i would like to see them fix the A1 launcher as well. but i think using that argument won't get us anywhere, because it will seem like we don't know what we're arguing for.

Good to know, but the Cat hitboxes are too big anyway, because the Cat scale is (still since closed beta) too big, just look at that comparison to the Stalker.

The argument about strap-ons being stupid for a Cat is about ugliness and backward logic, not hitboxes.

[Jin Ma]

KnowBuddy, on 06 March 2014 - 09:34 AM, said:

Good to know, but the Cat hitboxes are too big anyway, because the Cat scale is (still since closed beta) too big, just look at that comparison to the Stalker.

The argument about strap-ons being stupid for a Cat is about ugliness and backward logic, not hitboxes.

It is a little big. But i think mostly the stalker is also very small for an 85 tonner. According to volume theres only a 7ton difference between the 2 mechs, when there should be 20.

http://mwomercs.com/...-and-quickdraw/



Also, has anybody pointed this out yet? They really butchered the catapult revamp like no other:



- Removal of smaller launchers for the C1, A1. So that all missile catapults have large launchers now.
- Addition of unnecessary side straps, for missile addons.
- Misalignment of laser

Edited by Jin Ma, 06 March 2014 - 10:03 AM.

[Amsro]

Jin Ma, on 06 March 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

It is a little big. But i think mostly the stalker is also very small for an 85 tonner. According to volume theres only a 7ton difference between the 2 mechs, when there should be 20.

http://mwomercs.com/...-and-quickdraw/



Also, has anybody pointed this out yet? They really butchered the catapult revamp like no other:



- Removal of smaller launchers for the C1, A1. So that all missile catapults have large launchers now.
- Addition of unnecessary side straps, for missile addons.
- Misalignment of laser

I've noticed this too, its an obvious error, even the textures on the camo doesn't line up.

[MATRAKA14]

Jin Ma, on 06 March 2014 - 09:23 AM, said:

they did that with the Orion. just block out unused tubes. instead of going through the effort of remodeling a laucnher with smaller tube counts.

My idea consist in keeping all the tubes but alternating fire with all of them and switch to 20/15 tubes or so (for hard point) to all the weapons.

one single SRM2 .gif example
(Red dot = firing tube)(Black dot = fired tube) When every tuve has fired start again.

Is just an idea, and has some flaws, but is better than the current state.

Edited by MATRAKA14, 06 March 2014 - 11:55 AM.

[KnowBuddy]

Jin Ma, on 06 March 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

It is a little big. But i think mostly the stalker is also very small for an 85 tonner. According to volume theres only a 7ton difference between the 2 mechs, when there should be 20.

http://mwomercs.com/...-and-quickdraw/

The other option of course is to make the Stalker bigger.
I'd be fine with either... the ideal would probably be to make the Cat a bit smaller and the Stalker a bit bigger, but that's an unlikely change since it would require twice as much effort.