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[rafgod]

I loved MW3...but cmon, it was a point and shoot game with very little terrain. Lag shooting, while we look back on that fondly, was a skill..but borne out of terrible connections and not an intended game skill.
I think it is a GOOD thing that a single pilot cannot beat 3-4 mechs against him. How realistic is that? What happened to Maverick and Goose when they left their wingman?
Directional jump jets? You'd need space shuttle boosters to get 45 tons of metal to move around like you could in MW3.

This is a different game than MW3. IMO, rocking a laser SCat, using lag to juke back and forth, JJs, etc.... we could all do it. Most of us here were good at it in MW3. It was how the game was built.
This game focuses on a bit more realism..actual physics..tactics, strategy, teamwork. Maps have terrain that can actually impact your game play.
Individual pilot skill is different from MW3, but it is still very much there. Circle fighting was a good skill in MW3. Circle fighting is the sign of a nooblet in MWO. Once you get the full hang of the game, you'll likely be as good here as you say you were in MW3. (or not, really. Because we're all older now and these damn young whippersnappers now have the reflexes we used to have)

[xX_Nero_Xx]

lol you just think that im still kicking *** and taking names btw all SA register at the website fastway bloodkite and blot come on guys holo is in one of thoose moods again and no m0l0 to be found yet

[FFK ClouD]

rafgod, on 13 October 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

I loved MW3...but cmon, it was a point and shoot game with very little terrain. Lag shooting, while we look back on that fondly, was a skill..but borne out of terrible connections and not an intended game skill.
I think it is a GOOD thing that a single pilot cannot beat 3-4 mechs against him. How realistic is that? What happened to Maverick and Goose when they left their wingman?
Directional jump jets? You'd need space shuttle boosters to get 45 tons of metal to move around like you could in MW3.

This is a different game than MW3. IMO, rocking a laser SCat, using lag to juke back and forth, JJs, etc.... we could all do it. Most of us here were good at it in MW3. It was how the game was built.
This game focuses on a bit more realism..actual physics..tactics, strategy, teamwork. Maps have terrain that can actually impact your game play.
Individual pilot skill is different from MW3, but it is still very much there. Circle fighting was a good skill in MW3. Circle fighting is the sign of a nooblet in MWO. Once you get the full hang of the game, you'll likely be as good here as you say you were in MW3. (or not, really. Because we're all older now and these damn young whippersnappers now have the reflexes we used to have)

Well my reflexes are still really good because I was only 16 or 17 when I played mech3. So I'm like 28 but I'm sure there will be 40+ year old mech vets. Also age doesn't actually matter as much as you might think.

You know the lag shooting thing I don't actually try to make an argument for and I won't. The only thing being good at lag shooting helped me with is that now I'm really good at automatic weapons in Tribes Ascend. It's kind of like lag shooting in mech3 except everyone has the same lag spot and that spot changes based on their movement and your movement. It's not even useful to talk about it vs MWO because there is no lag shooting here.

I still think mech3 was the better game for expressing skill even after you take lag out of the equation. I WAS able to 4v1 to win the game in MWO pug. So that was 4v1 SHOOTING at me all at once. So it's possible in this game but here's what I had to do: rule out the dumb stock cat in close range, rule out the bad player not hitting anything, and rule out the guy that already had a lot of damage on him by finishing him fast. Only one guy was good and had full health on his mech.

So really it was a 1v1. The problem is that a real 4v1 with everyone shooting at me would be impossible to win against actual good players. In mech3 competitive it would have been unlikely but possible. I'm just saying the more skill based you can keep things the better it will be for real matches and this game doesn't work that way so far. It's just a bit too 1 dimensional. I know it's a different game but that's no excuse.

Edited by FFK ClouD, 13 October 2012 - 04:09 PM.

[xX_Nero_Xx]

there is lag shooting here use a ac/20 on a jenner moving and kill it .that is where all the lag shooting skillz come in for me.

Edited by fccolhitman, 13 October 2012 - 05:23 PM.

[starmax]

[starmax]

sign in old zone players

[GaussDragon]

Personally, I hate the lag shooting. It may have been acceptable in 1999, but this is 2012.

[Spidey01]

Spidey01 with some forms of x's added as needed for the zone. Under MW4, I was with the Shadow Warriors (SW), Mystic Death Legion (MDL), Dragion Empirex (DEx; the unit black listed in MWA after we had too long an undefeated streak and pretty much just the Kell Hounds would occasionally play us), and one of the Scorpion something or others in Vengeance League. Also had friends in Old Timer's Clan (OTC).

But waaaayyyy to damn lazy to grep this thread to see if I know anyone that's made it here.

Spidey01 with some forms of x's added as needed for the zone. Under MW4, I was with the Shadow Warriors (SW), Mystic Death Legion (MDL), Dragion Empirex (DEx; the unit black listed in MWA after we had too long an undefeated streak and pretty much just the Kell Hounds would occasionally play us), and one of the Scorpion something or others in Vengeance League. Also had friends in Old Timer's Clan (OTC).

But waaaayyyy to damn lazy to grep this thread to see if I know anyone that's made it here.

[chiXnhawk]

Blot , Holo and M0L0 play for KaoS now.

[DoubLeL]

I really miss the MS Gaming Zone Lobby! Now that was fun!

HG
SOA
CSH
AxA
MkM
WMx
KTV
KaoS
also KORE

WAR for MWL

Edited by DoubLeL, 18 October 2012 - 12:26 AM.

[Spidey01]

Hmm, KaoS and KORE I remember from the zone, and their performance.

AxA on the other hand...now that's one I ain't heard in a longo time.

[PaidtoKill]

WOW seeing alot of names i havent seen in a LONG time in this post

WOW seeing alot of names i havent seen in a LONG time in this post

[paradox23]

Damn, I miss owning you fools.

[Roaddog]

SD_Warlord on mechcommander gold

[xX_Nero_Xx]

no holo doesnt i play with kaos, i play holo almost everyday and he has put up a SA website for the gang to get back together **** also doesnt play for kaos hes not playing untill open beta cause he dosent want to pay to play , blot might play for yall but as soon as holo gets to talk to him i doubt he will so i hope http://santandersass...s.com/index.php .....Holo is the webmaster and the leader of SA so i doubt hes in kaos im sure you can ask him. ill make sure he repies to this .

[chiXnhawk]

He asked to be on the roster in the beginning of KaoS but he most of them haven't been online on coms so if any of them want to join SA they can. I was told that they wanted to join KaoS. I don't want anyone who doesn't want to be with us.

[rafgod]

I, on the other hand, would prefer to stock a unit only with players who don't want to be there.

[xX_Nero_Xx]

Lol raf that's y your with us and holo name got banned he's useing a differnt one

Edited by fccolhitman, 19 October 2012 - 09:54 AM.

[Maico]

Man the Zone was great back in the day. Used to run as Cobaltx_Mav.

I remember Cobaltx_Bones/Clan Bloodred/Buzz_Litebeer/ and some dude who was known for his 180degree torso twist lol. Good times cant wait to see you all in Mech Online, if i used to play with you hit me up i run as Maico nowadays.

[xX_Nero_Xx]

im sure that was b4 they decided SA was going to make a come back .