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[Joseph Mallan]

akpavker, on 25 November 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

sorry but it does have an impact because this guy at a guess is doing the same thing i did when i started playing the game. he is running around with no idea what he is doing and getting killed due to lack of experience. the only difference between me and him as new players is that i didn't go running to the forums screaming for nerfs when i died.

Possibly using an Alt account?

Out of the mouth of babes oft comes Jems.

[Roadbeer]

Joseph Mallan, on 26 November 2013 - 05:01 AM, said:

You mean like that I spent $260 in one weekend on my 4 Accounts back in March? Is that kinda what you were eluding to Beer?

I did this to point out of how silly it is to form an opinion on worth by how much money one spends, posts one has, or Time in game one logs.

If you had read what I was saying, you'd realize that we were saying the exact same thing.

[Nik Van Rhijn]

After extensive study of the matter I have come up with two common denominators when I died.
1) I was present therefore I am UP, please buff me immediately.
2) I was always killed by a mech therefore mechs are Op. Nerf mechs immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joseph Mallan]

Roadbeer, on 26 November 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

If you had read what I was saying, you'd realize that we were saying the exact same thing.

I was trying to reinforce your point... I must not have worded myself right... I had a rough night's sleep, and could actually use a nap!

[Roadbeer]

That's ok, I'm still on my first cup of coffee, so we're on the same page

[warp103]

Joseph Mallan, on 26 November 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Possibly using an Alt account?

Out of the mouth of babes oft comes Jems.

?? I do not understand. Are you asking if i am using a Alt Account.
Because sorry nope. I do not have the time for one this game not that important for me to bother.
I stand by my statement. PGI likes to balance via the nerfbat. The point is that all mechs are just vanilla.
I own only 4 mechs. One ddc,2 stalkers and jm dd{did have 3 cats and cravens but that was ezmode}. All have the same Ktd 2.+. I been asked why in god name do i only carry 4 weapons{exp on one of my stalkers}. I give the same answer, The game is so sh ite that I can. Do I like that game sure but it been dumb down to console level.

[Bront]

WandiXXL, on 25 November 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Small Autocannons (5/2) should have a minimal range , for short Range you have AC 10 or 20, But a 4 x AC5 Mech is more effective than a single AC 20 Mech.

only 1 mech can mount 4 AC5s, which happen to weigh twice as much as a single AC20, so yeah, it should be more effective.

But yes, AC2 and AC5 need a small ROF nerf (.6 ROF for AC2, 1.75 ROF for AC5). UAC5 needs to not jam on non-double shots.

WandiXXL, on 25 November 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Energy-based Mechs are the stepchild atm, because heatmanagement is a mess, You do more damage with a Small AC mech , and you are more heat efficient, as DOUBLE HEAT-SInks only do 1,4 heat.

Energy weapons have issues, mostly revolving around the heat system that penalized them more than it should AND having a slower ROF than balistics AND having DOT. Fix heat, and the other 2 fall into place fine.

WandiXXL, on 25 November 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

If you don't have an AMS OR the invisiblemaking ECM ... LRMs literally kill you before you see the opp mech. They are Killers while fired indirectly. Although indirect fire should be harder, it is easier in MWO.

Wait, so easily counter-able weapon is OP if you don't take the counter? That's laughable.

WandiXXL, on 25 November 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

oh and that firing beyond range thing is funny two ..LRMs/SRMs expode at their max range... but you can sniper with ac20s???

Explosives don't degrade over distance, and the explosions actually have an in lore reason for happening (a war treatie about unexploded muntions left at a combat site). That said, extended ranges are a bit of a problem and (again) favor Ballistics.

[Joseph Mallan]

warp103, on 26 November 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

?? I do not understand. Are you asking if i am using a Alt Account.
Because sorry nope. I do not have the time for one this game not that important for me to bother.
I stand by my statement. PGI likes to balance via the nerfbat. The point is that all mechs are just vanilla.
I own only 4 mechs. One ddc,2 stalkers and jm dd{did have 3 cats and cravens but that was ezmode}. All have the same Ktd 2.+. I been asked why in god name do i only carry 4 weapons{exp on one of my stalkers}. I give the same answer, The game is so sh ite that I can. Do I like that game sure but it been dumb down to console level.

It was more of a postulating. It would not be the first time a seasoned hand came on here under an Alt, if it isn't what yer doing then it was not meant as a harmful post. In fact I only have 2 Atlas and the Sara. A Jager40 and a Stalker(Alt 1) Shadowhawk an a Highlander (Alt 2) Cause like you, I don't need a huge selection of mechs to play the game. I don't think it's console level yet... but it is getting close.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 26 November 2013 - 09:41 AM.

[Almond Brown]

WandiXXL, on 25 November 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

I read the word BALANCE in the board title. What balance?

Weapons:

stuff

oh and that firing beyond range thing is funny two ..LRMs/SRMs explode at their max range... but you can sniper with ac20s???

You were doing so... ok not so good.

Well, imagine a small rocket, what happens when it runs out of fuel, 1) drops to the ground in a fizzle, or for more flare, 2) self destructs like a fireworks.

I like 2 better.

The AC20 fires a 400 pound slug, like a bullet, as far as that sucker can go, ballistic arc and all.

Imagine a Rifle (ever shoot a rifle) shooting a 400 pound slug. Bet it goes really far right... not so much.

Edited by Almond Brown, 26 November 2013 - 09:53 AM.

[Almond Brown]

Charons Little Helper, on 25 November 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

I would certainly hope so. 4xAC5 weigh 32 tons versus an AC20 weighing 14 tons. (not even to mention slots & hardpoints)

The AC5 has 4 times the Range. With good aim, it is definitely a good ranged weapon. Apples to Oranges really. (4 x AC5 is limited to very very few build anyways)

[warp103]

Joseph Mallan, on 26 November 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

It was more of a postulating. It would not be the first time a seasoned hand came on here under an Alt, if it isn't what yer doing then it was not meant as a harmful post. In fact I only have 2 Atlas and the Sara. A Jager40 and a Stalker(Alt 1) Shadowhawk an a Highlander (Alt 2) Cause like you, I don't need a huge selection of mechs to play the game. I don't think it's console level yet... but it is getting close.

lol it cool. yes I think i a little to seasoned. I would not be so bad if I was not in the closed beta. Were the cat was a cat not some slag with pods all over it... Sorry I digress . Basically we have vanilla game. To make saying this, that and the other is op. For Joseph Mallan, I and others we have only a few mechs. Why do you need more with all the weapons nerfed?
What the point of getting a cat over a stalker. it the same damn platform with lame weapons. Were are the specialist build. Awesome with 3ppc lol it can not work because of the ghost heat nerf. It Came standard with ppc but you would be a fool to take it on the battlefields.

To the OG op sorry but this just shows that to many have the opinion that this need adjustment {nerf}. This is mechwarrior not fluffy bunnies. Would you like us just have the game dakka dakka with bunnies for ammo ?
I not jumping on you. You opinion is not wrong or right but when do you get to the point of enough is enough?

[Sandpit]

warp103, on 26 November 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

lol it cool. yes I think i a little to seasoned. I would not be so bad if I was not in the closed beta. Were the cat was a cat not some slag with pods all over it... Sorry I digress . Basically we have vanilla game. To make saying this, that and the other is op. For Joseph Mallan, I and others we have only a few mechs. Why do you need more with all the weapons nerfed?
What the point of getting a cat over a stalker. it the same damn platform with lame weapons. Were are the specialist build. Awesome with 3ppc lol it can not work because of the ghost heat nerf. It Came standard with ppc but you would be a fool to take it on the battlefields.

To the OG op sorry but this just shows that to many have the opinion that this need adjustment {nerf}. This is mechwarrior not fluffy bunnies. Would you like us just have the game dakka dakka with bunnies for ammo ?
I not jumping on you. You opinion is not wrong or right but when do you get to the point of enough is enough?

You might want to read through here:
http://mwomercs.com/...-mechs-loadout/

There's some great mech builds in there that might help you adapt to the current mechanics. You might find some new builds you like.

[WandiXXL]

Farix, on 26 November 2013 - 07:03 AM, said:

I'll say the exact same thing that I've said in every other topic about general weapons balance. Balanced is a matter of opinion. Each person has their own opinion of what balance should be and they are all different from one another. But the opinions that matter are those of PGI's balance team.

Personally, I think most things are fairly well balanced. DHS could use a buff from 1.4 to 1.6, which would benefit most energy weapons and the AC/2, but not the other ballistics. If you want to compensate, you could increase the AC/2's recycle rate to 0.6 (giving a DPS equivalent to the AC/5) or 0.7 (which makes the AC/2 less efficient to the AC/5, but you have the ability to carry more ammo/armor/equipment/etc.).

Actually DHS are named DHS because 1 DHS has the potential of 2 SHS ((single heat sinks)

[warp103]

Sandpit, on 26 November 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

You might want to read through here:
http://mwomercs.com/...-mechs-loadout/

There's some great mech builds in there that might help you adapt to the current mechanics. You might find some new builds you like.

adapt to what. Check out my youtube page. there is nothing to adapt. I get about 2 to 4 kills avg match. Even with my daughter asleep on my arm{ only time I can get to play at night}. Again my ktd is 2+ on all my mechs.
The game is ez to me. It is nothing more console shooter now then anything esle. hence why I only have 4 mechs. {all mastered with 122mil in cbills and 45k gxp}

Adapt, hell I can pad my ktd if kept my troolmando or my craven {sold both when I made my 8 year old his own account}
He does not play much anymore. He thinks it to ez after leveling his mechs.
I thing PGI need to adapt and stop all the nerf madness.

[Sandpit]

warp103, on 26 November 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

adapt to what. Check out my youtube page. there is nothing to adapt. I get about 2 to 4 kills avg match. Even with my daughter asleep on my arm{ only time I can get to play at night}. Again my ktd is 2+ on all my mechs.
The game is ez to me. It is nothing more console shooter now then anything esle. hence why I only have 4 mechs. {all mastered with 122mil in cbills and 45k gxp}

Adapt, hell I can pad my ktd if kept my troolmando or my craven {sold both when I made my 8 year old his own account}
He does not play much anymore. He thinks it to ez after leveling his mechs.
I thing PGI need to adapt and stop all the nerf madness.

you sounded like you were getting bored with mech designs. If the game is that ez might want to look for a design that offerse a little more challenge

[42and19]

warp103, on 26 November 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

adapt to what. Check out my youtube page. there is nothing to adapt. I get about 2 to 4 kills avg match. Even with my daughter asleep on my arm{ only time I can get to play at night}. Again my ktd is 2+ on all my mechs.
The game is ez to me. It is nothing more console shooter now then anything esle. hence why I only have 4 mechs. {all mastered with 122mil in cbills and 45k gxp}

Adapt, hell I can pad my ktd if kept my troolmando or my craven {sold both when I made my 8 year old his own account}
He does not play much anymore. He thinks it to ez after leveling his mechs.
I thing PGI need to adapt and stop all the nerf madness.

It's easy

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Not that hard.

Also, one of the nice things about this game is that you can make different builds. Meaning, find a mech that is considered a bad mech and put a non meta build on it.

My **** around mech is a dragon with an ac/10 and 4 MLs

[warp103]

Sandpit, on 26 November 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

you sounded like you were getting bored with mech designs. If the game is that ez might want to look for a design that offerse a little more challenge

that why i only carry 4 weapons in ddc,stalker forgot version. 3 weapons in my other stalker. and 4 in my jm dd. Non are boated lol. but thanks I will try a new set up in a few days. Still have 5 more vids to make for a friend to see if they will come in to play

[Augustus Martelus II]

[warp103]

42and19, on 26 November 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

It's easy

E

A

S

Y


Not that hard.

Also, one of the nice things about this game is that you can make different builds. Meaning, find a mech that is considered a bad mech and put a non meta build on it.

My **** around mech is a dragon with an ac/10 and 4 MLs

I have made {Scrap} builds and got kills . I made a trool 6 machine gun jm dd. that was a blast if i got in close. Know getting close was the challenge lol. I might go back to that but I would not be helping my team{ but i would be having damn good fun}

That part of the issue how to still have it fun and still help my team. Troll build are fun but in general do not help my team{ex ecm trools then is even ez'r mode}

Edit : Opps sorry OP not trying to jack this thread.

Edited by warp103, 26 November 2013 - 08:17 PM.

[Sandpit]

warp103, on 26 November 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

I have made {Scrap} builds and got kills . I made a trool 6 machine gun jm dd. that was a blast if i got in close. Know getting close was the challenge lol. I might go back to that but I would not be helping my team{ but i would be having damn good fun}

That part of the issue how to still have it fun and still help my team. Troll build are fun but in general do not help my team{ex ecm trools then is even ez'r mode}

Edit : Opps sorry OP not trying to jack this thread.

Is it ok to hijack duplicate troll threads? We need an amendment to CoC if not lol