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[RichAC]

Roland, on 03 January 2014 - 05:54 AM, said:

And yet, I use multiple machines, constantly throughout every single day, and NONE of them have ever been infected by viruses in YEARS of use.

There are two explanations for that... either My assertion regarding how viruses are transmitted is correct, and you can easily protect yourself if you understand how to use a computer, or I've just gotten miraculously lucky. Oh, and my friends have also all gotten equally lucky.

Sorry dude, but your belief that everyone is running around with infected computers is nonsensical and incorrect.

So your denying the fact NBC.com was giving people viruses? Thats how easy it is nowadays dude. Stay away from any pages that use flash as well.... lol.

You sound Like most people that own mac's and linux machines who claim they are safer. The only reason they are safer is because they don't do anything on them. They are less compatible and why most people are not running them, so they are less a target. I'm assuming your the same way.

I'm not afraid to use my machine, and contrary to what you think my machine runs pretty good. Unlike most of the people who play this game that are crashing all the time. Minus the connection issues, I wouldn't be quick to blame their hardware like you probably would.

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Or people who actually write software for a living and actually understand how their computers work.

writing software for a living doesn't nescessarily mean your a techie, hacker, or malware creator. How would you know if you are virused if no av software detects it? The only way to know is by being conscious of the anomalies when they happen. Like lots of crashes or slow performance or system instability is one symptom. Sometimes that doesn't even happen. but I assume my machines are virused regardless. Thats the world we live in nowadays.

The head of IAD also says we must assume we already compromised and work from there. Thats what all security experts will tell you nowadays. Its no longer about prevention, its just about detection. Unless you make sure you don't do anything on your pc that will compromise you, there is no way to know for sure. I'm glad you think your a computer genius though... ignorance is bliss.

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More likely, you don't really understand her statement and are misquoting her.

Well I'm not misquoting the fact that she said there are a million new viruses made every month that don't stay in the wild long enough to detect. Or the fact the NSA wants to find a commercial manufacturer to make their own cellphones for those reasons.

Edited by RichAC, 03 January 2014 - 09:54 AM.

[Roland]

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So your denying the fact NBC.com was giving people viruses? Thats how easy it is nowadays dude. Stay away from any pages that use flash as well.... lol.

I'm denying that NBC was giving people who knew how to use their computer viruses.

And yes, Flash has had a multitude of vulnerabilities over the years. Turns out, you don't need to let web pages automatically run Flash. Amazing, I know. Turns out, some folks actually know how to manage what web pages run on their machine.

See, that's the key. If you let web pages run whatever they want, then yes, you are going to get viruses. But you actually have the ability to stop that from happening.

Like I said dude, I've run many machines for literally years, and none of them have been infected with anything. You seem to think that everyone's computer is always getting infected, but you are wrong.

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writing software for a living doesn't nescessarily mean your a techie, hacker, or malware creator. How would you know if you are virused if no av software detects it? The only way to know is by being conscious of the anomalies when they happen. Like lots of crashes or slow performance or system instability is one symptom. Sometimes that doesn't even happen. but I assume my machines are virused regardless. Thats the world we live in nowadays.

Seriously man, you sound ridiculous at this point. Like the people who are targeted by the clean-pc commercials on TV.

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The head of IAD also says we must assume we already compromised and work from there. Thats what all security experts will tell you nowadays. Its no longer about prevention, its just about detection. Unless you make sure you don't do anything on your pc that will compromise you, there is no way to know for sure. I'm glad you think your a computer genius though... ignorance is bliss.

You don't really understand what the IAD director was talking about.

You seriously sound like someone who thinks their computer is powered by tiny gnomes who live inside it.

[RichAC]

Roland, on 03 January 2014 - 10:06 AM, said:

I'm denying that NBC was giving people who knew how to use their computer viruses.

And yes, Flash has had a multitude of vulnerabilities over the years. Turns out, you don't need to let web pages automatically run Flash. Amazing, I know. Turns out, some folks actually know how to manage what web pages run on their machine.

See, that's the key. If you let web pages run whatever they want, then yes, you are going to get viruses. But you actually have the ability to stop that from happening.

Like I said dude, I've run many machines for literally years, and none of them have been infected with anything. You seem to think that everyone's computer is always getting infected, but you are wrong.

HHAHA, and what would have you dont differently if you were them? stopped scripts from running? Run the browser in a sandbox or Vm?

The problem with running a program like noscript, is that most of the time you have to allow everything anways. People who are active on their pc realize this. To be able to watch that video, or use that flash program or the way the website is supposed to be intended for the full experience, requires you to run the scripts or use flash. SO either your going to use the site, or you aren't is what it boils down to.


Someone like you who doesn't careto use his computer for the full experience doesn't understand this... i guess you would just not watch the video or use the app on the page at all if you had to allow any scripts huh? I also have no script, ghostery, av plugins, adlbock plus, trafficlight, pdf viewer, WOT, etc.....(some good plugins people should use)

But they don't mean anything when i have to allow things on webpage I want to use anyways.... Noscript is only good for that random webpage you don't want to do or use anything on.

Even sandboxie is not going to fully protect you my friend. They say that right on their home page. and VM's are usually too slow and unstable on alot of peoples laptops.

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Seriously man, you sound ridiculous at this point. Like the people who are targeted by the clean-pc commercials on TV.

hahah you sound like the typical industry dude. Which is why your industry is dying.

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You don't really understand what the IAD director was talking about.

You seriously sound like someone who thinks their computer is powered by tiny gnomes who live inside it.

Nice of you to enlighten us.... I'm sorry this subjet makes you uncomfortable, and sorry you have an inferiority complex.

But those are all facts and I'll repeat them. There a million new viruses made every month according to the NSA and they don't stay in the wild long. The NSA wants to manufacture their own cellphones for their employees, cause regular cellphones are too insecure.

http://ibdabo.com/bl...ity-conference/ V

“New malware is developed every day, and new variations are generated every second. Some estimates say one million new samples of malware are detected every month,” Ms. Plunkett said


I love the NSA http://www.businessi...er-plot-2013-12 Dragon wasn't as crazy as they said he was....What this article doesn't tell you is that Viruses live in many bioses. buying a new hdd won't even get rid of it. Been known since the days of CIH. and its not just nation states... And they can even infect you wirelessly on some machines.

Check this tyra banks episode out about high school grils getting stalked on cellphones. Its only so much easier to do nowadays.. this has to be years ago. Tyra is the only one without a flipphone

Edited by RichAC, 03 January 2014 - 10:43 AM.

[BlackBeltJones]

Consider me convinced RichAC. I was doubtful but I can assure you that 'Citation by Tyra' was all I needed to be fully convinced.

[RG Notch]

Roland, on 03 January 2014 - 10:06 AM, said:

I'm denying that NBC was giving people who knew how to use their computer viruses.

And yes, Flash has had a multitude of vulnerabilities over the years. Turns out, you don't need to let web pages automatically run Flash. Amazing, I know. Turns out, some folks actually know how to manage what web pages run on their machine.

See, that's the key. If you let web pages run whatever they want, then yes, you are going to get viruses. But you actually have the ability to stop that from happening.

Like I said dude, I've run many machines for literally years, and none of them have been infected with anything. You seem to think that everyone's computer is always getting infected, but you are wrong.



Seriously man, you sound ridiculous at this point. Like the people who are targeted by the clean-pc commercials on TV.



You don't really understand what the IAD director was talking about.

You seriously sound like someone who thinks their computer is powered by tiny gnomes who live inside it.

It's a waste of time to try to explain some concepts to people who don't want to learn. These folks are so convinced they are right it's apparently a blow to their self esteem to learn anything new. Computers aren't run by gnomes? Aren't the gnomes what catch the virus? I mean how could a machine get a virus?
I'm amazed people like this even dare to go on the internet what with it filled with "criminal hackers". I hear if you touch wood and toss salt over your shoulder the gnomes in your computer will be protected from the evil criminal hackers.
Feel free to continue, but it's not going to end well.

[Sandpit]

Wtf does any of this have to do with the subject of the thread?

[BlackBeltJones]

Sandpit, on 03 January 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

Wtf does any of this have to do with the subject of the thread?

When Tyra talks about our computer safety no threads matter.

[Krivvan]

Your elo being higher than average or lower than average will start to limit the number of players you'll see in games. Try switching to a mech weight class you don't normally play and you tend to suddenly start seeing new faces.

[Chip Danger]

Don't tell them they have to do something new. You will scare away the last of the players!

[poohead]

Unscientific test: look at forum members and guests online in MWO, WoT and War Thunder forums. The latter 2 are supposedly pretty healthy.

They seem to be similar or double last time i checked, so by that logic MWO can't be that shafted yet.

On the death of PC gaming (because of those millions of geeky society-hating hacker nerd commie pinko non-sports-playing criminal masterminds):

If you can manage to spare 25 minutes, Chris Roberts did a very interesting presentation on the evolution and current state of PC gaming -


One set of stats from the above - 600 million pc gamers, of which 220 million were mainstream (i.e. not casual) and 30 million were high-end gamers (at about 11 minutes in)

Edited by poohead, 03 January 2014 - 02:49 PM.

[RichAC]

lol Well he is certainly getting rich off a game hes never even released yet. I hope it works out for you guys.

Sandpit, on 03 January 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

Wtf does any of this have to do with the subject of the thread?

Because a delcine in population, has to do with a fact pc gaming has been dying for years, and is at its lowest peak. PC sales are at their lowest peak. Viruses and "technical difficulties" are partly the reasons why. I don't blame phones, ipads, or consoles like the industry does. I blame many other reasons like these.

BlackBeltJones, on 03 January 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

When Tyra talks about our computer safety no threads matter.

Tyra is one down chick. haha I bet you'll never hear about that on TV anywhere else

RG Notch, on 03 January 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

It's a waste of time to try to explain some concepts to people who don't want to learn. These folks are so convinced they are right it's apparently a blow to their self esteem to learn anything new. Computers aren't run by gnomes? Aren't the gnomes what catch the virus? I mean how could a machine get a virus?
I'm amazed people like this even dare to go on the internet what with it filled with "criminal hackers". I hear if you touch wood and toss salt over your shoulder the gnomes in your computer will be protected from the evil criminal hackers.
Feel free to continue, but it's not going to end well.

The ones that are actually scared to do anything on their pc, are actually the same ones who blame users for what they do on their pc. Its not people like the NSA taking away our freedoms, its hackers and people like you guys taking it away from yourselves.

Edited by RichAC, 04 January 2014 - 04:53 AM.

[Sephlock]

I'm really shocked and appalled by all of the insults directed toward computer gnomes.

Don't you realize what will happen if you make them angry?

[nitra]

The reason population is dropping, has nothing to do with whether the pc is dying (which it is not).

The reason is because MWO never fulfilled its potential . the best word to describe MWO is ... Limited.

Limited maps

Limited game play

Limited design

Limited marketing

Limited community development

Once the limitations became more and more apparent the relations with devs and core player base soured.

and no common ground was ever found to bring these two sides together.

So now the MWO player base largely consists of die hard mechwarrior fans totally loyal to the franchise, and the roving ever moving free to play gaming hoard that jumps from one game to the other month to month . (a testament of how large pc gaming is that this fickle short attention span player base keeps 100s if not thousands of small mmo games in business. )

MWO is not down for the count yet... the upcoming clan release is enough to bring back a good percentage of the player base and im sure they will be willing to spend more money on this game . but the clans is it.

if their is not enough to retain players by then . it will only be a matter of time before MWO is nothing more than a Wikipedia entry.

[RichAC]

I found new reasons why there is so many people quit the game.

Try figure out how many of the people in these threads still play since January. I dont' recognize any of them since I started in October.

http://mwomercs.com/...ch/page__st__20

http://mwomercs.com/...ch-i-never-did/


Now heres a new thread on the same subject, and more potential drop offs:

http://mwomercs.com/...s/page__st__100


Either they are slowing our speeds to balance our pings with other players. Or they don't pay enough for bandwidth. Or If thats not the case, then its just the fact that the most ISP's backbone networks have trouble routing to canada, whether American or European they just can't handle the loads....which is insane.

The fact is....mysteriously going from 20-50 ping on some days. while maybe not at a disadvantage to most around the world , is gonna turn people off. or europeans going from 200 ping to 600 ping has got to be even more rough.

I think canada's internet network is broke.

Edited by RichAC, 05 January 2014 - 06:03 AM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Turist0AT, on 27 December 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

ppl like me use it. Let me tell you why. I have a gaming laptop, no desk, no cumfy chair, no gaming mouse, only bed and a TV. The only comfortable position for me is with a gamepad. I play war thunder,planetside 2 and hawken the same way. Its not ideal but what can i do.

I play on a bed and TV using a wireless mouse and keyboard. Couldn't imagine using a gamepad...

[Accursed Richards]

Sandpit, on 03 January 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

Wtf does any of this have to do with the subject of the thread?

I think I prefer their virus slapfight to the original topic.

[RichAC]

Accursed Richards, on 05 January 2014 - 07:16 AM, said:

I think I prefer their virus slapfight to the original topic.

Dont' forget add skyrocketing ping to the list. Refer to my previous post where I link mwo threads, which is full of posters that no longer play the game.

Which who knows, might actually have to do with hackers as well

Edited by RichAC, 05 January 2014 - 09:45 AM.

[Ghogiel]

RichAC, on 05 January 2014 - 05:49 AM, said:

I found new reasons why there is so many people quit the game.

Try figure out how many of the people in these threads still play since January. I dont' recognize any of them since I started in October.

http://mwomercs.com/...ch/page__st__20

lol don't even think half the people on that first page have left.

[RichAC]

Ghogiel, on 05 January 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

lol don't even think half the people on that first page have left.

really? name some, cause I've clicked on some random profiles, and they basically didn't post any forums posts after january. I'd like to try and contact them, if you could name some still playing that would be great. I would appreciate it.

I've a added a bunch of the verizon fios guys to my friends list, i believe, and haven't seen any online yet, nor have I ever seen any of them in game.

Edited by RichAC, 06 January 2014 - 04:29 AM.

[mogs01gt]

Autobot9000, on 07 December 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

The thing is: The game should have shipped with the entire content from day 1 of release on and have a good quality as well. But this wasn't PGIs plan and this kind of add-content as we move on simply isn't cutting it. Also announcements like the one for UI 2.0, where they said "it will ship with lots of bugs" is totally ******* people off. The game already has mediocre quality. The lack of quality dedication on PGIs part is atrocious, it's a really bad sign for a company, when they drop quality acceptance measures. People want a full, good quality game, the kind of stoneage old plain shooter doesn't motivate anyone to play, so they do drop sooner or later. The assumption of the game kind of drawing more and more players in isn't working. I believe the game is instead losing players as they become disappointed.
I think people do check back once in a while what the game is like, but they find in context of the whole rather small changes and not much happening. My entire friend list is offline these days, no one is playing MWO (and I have quit too, despite having "donated" money for it, because I was actually expecting this to become a good game).

Im gonna have to agree with this. As a new player, I lost desire to play real quick and just came back to see if things have improved.