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#241 Sandpit

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:43 AM

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#242 RichAC

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

View PostSandpit, on 06 January 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

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they can systematically brick every piece of hardware in your computer. Its another reason for the decline in pc gaming. who wants to keep replacing expensive equipment. better to get a cheap pos computer and play LoL haha.

Edited by RichAC, 06 January 2014 - 02:43 PM.


#243 RG Notch

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:49 PM

View PostRichAC, on 06 January 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:


they can systematically brick every piece of hardware in your computer. Its another reason for the decline in pc gaming. who wants to keep replacing expensive equipment. better to get a cheap pos computer and play LoL haha.

Do you wrap the tinfoil shiney side in or out? :P

#244 RichAC

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:53 PM

View PostRG Notch, on 06 January 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

Do you wrap the tinfoil shiney side in or out? :P


do u live in a bubble?

#245 RG Notch

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:56 PM

View PostRichAC, on 06 January 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:


do u live in a bubble?

You didn't answer the question is it a secret? :P Oh, if you answer on the internet the criminal hackers would know. So never you mind. Nothing to see here criminal hackers.

#246 RichAC

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:01 PM

View PostRG Notch, on 06 January 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

You didn't answer the question is it a secret? :P Oh, if you answer on the internet the criminal hackers would know. So never you mind. Nothing to see here criminal hackers.


lol...stay in your bubble. But since you asked heres a pro tip:

put the tinfoil around your credit cards....and cover the camera holes in your phones when your not using them.

And your correct, its not the NSA you should be worried about.

I notice you live in NYC, what ISP do you have?

Edited by RichAC, 06 January 2014 - 03:02 PM.


#247 Elder Thorn

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:07 PM

View PostMech The Dane, on 06 December 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

I was wondering if anyone else has noticed less people playing MWO?

I am not sure if it is just my limited perspective, or if it is a real thing. It APPEARS that I am seeing both fewer new faces and fewer old faces. That when I run 12 mans I run into less and less teams doing the same.

Are other groups seeing this as well? Is it just an expected November -> December Holiday slowdown, maybe people finally giving up on PGI? Or something else?

Is it just me? Or it this happening?


it think this is one of the reasons why they removed the online player display ages ago. It never made any sense to me...

#248 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:17 PM

My wait times for matches went waaay down after the holidays were over. Go figure.

#249 MadcatX

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:21 PM

View PostRichAC, on 06 January 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:


they can systematically brick every piece of hardware in your computer. Its another reason for the decline in pc gaming. who wants to keep replacing expensive equipment. better to get a cheap pos computer and play LoL haha.


Decline of PC gaming due to viruses/hackers.

Hackers bring down PSN for a month. Sucked to be EVERY PS3 OWNER at that time if you were into multiplayer.

#250 RG Notch

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:27 PM

View PostRichAC, on 06 January 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:


lol...stay in your bubble. But since you asked heres a pro tip:

put the tinfoil around your credit cards....and cover the camera holes in your phones when your not using them.

And your correct, its not the NSA you should be worried about.

I notice you live in NYC, what ISP do you have?

I can't tell you, the criminal hackers will get me! :P

#251 RichAC

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:33 PM

View PostMadcatX, on 06 January 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:


Decline of PC gaming due to viruses/hackers.

Hackers bring down PSN for a month. Sucked to be EVERY PS3 OWNER at that time if you were into multiplayer.


a whole month? thats unheard of.

oh is that the time when they stole everyone credit cards last year? I heard about it on the news but didn't know the network went down for so long.

most i've seen personally is them bring down ea's battelog servers and punkbuster for almost two weeks from Ddos attacks and who knows what else, which they publick apologized for. Quakelive has gone down many times but always less then a week. maybe a few days.

Anyone can do that nowadays if they have the money to pay for it... there are ddos services for hire, not even on underground networks nowadays. right out there in public.

Right after ea went down some new viruses were getting detected, and i got one from battlelog. EA totally blew me off about it. It was my own fault, it was the same week IE 10 came out and i had to try it out to see if fps changed, being the gamer I am haha, big mistake. I do not recommend using IE. although nothings really safe anymore.

Edited by RichAC, 06 January 2014 - 03:41 PM.


#252 MadcatX

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:40 PM

View PostRichAC, on 06 January 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:


a whole month? oh is that the time when they stole everyone credit cards? most i've seen is them bring down ea's battelog servers and punkbuster for about a week.


Was down between April 20th to May 14th (a couple days longer, depending on region), originally brought down by a "[color=#000000]external intrusion", then kept down longer and longer as Sony was discovering more and more exploits in PSN. [/color]

#253 RichAC

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:42 PM

View PostMadcatX, on 06 January 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:


Was down between April 20th to May 14th (a couple days longer, depending on region), originally brought down by a "[color=#000000]external intrusion", then kept down longer and longer as Sony was discovering more and more exploits in PSN. [/color]


well hey at least PSN is free to use with your own internet right? haha wow. Hopefully sony is more vigilant now.

Edited by RichAC, 06 January 2014 - 03:42 PM.


#254 RichAC

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 04:34 AM

yesterday was extra long search times. Today I failed to find match for the 2nd time ever. ;)

Edited by RichAC, 07 January 2014 - 04:34 AM.


#255 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:23 AM

Its pretty bad when the NSA sucks up everything yet hackers are not on the radar. 40 Mil credit cards stolen yet the NSA concerned with national security doesn't think that is a security issue.

Truth is its about control, and your the target.

#256 RichAC

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:27 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 07 January 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

Its pretty bad when the NSA sucks up everything yet hackers are not on the radar. 40 Mil credit cards stolen yet the NSA concerned with national security doesn't think that is a security issue.

Truth is its about control, and your the target.


They are more concerned with foreign spies like edward snowden. If you look at the top known spies of the 21st century. ALL top 10 would be Russian, or double agents working for Russia. Snowden is no different. In fact, he is the best spy Russia ever had in history.

The NSA pass the info they get about target onto the secret service and FBI, because they are the ones that handle the domestic affairs. And your right the NSA is probably not even that concerned about that. They handle foreign affairs and probably stumble on very little to do with it. The secret service can handle it just fine.

Truth is the conversation in the media is about the NSA, because they are being controlled by foreing spies. Us Americans should be more concerned with what the FBI and our police forces are doing... They don't need the NSA to hack your pc or spy on you. Even NYC police where I live can do that well enough all on their own and have become very good at it. They are teaching other police forces around the country. The NSA gives them info if they stumble onto something, but I assure you, you are not their target, they don't have enough people even with bulk data collection, and the FBI prolly already has that info anyways...

Truth is we should be more worried about the FBI, because they have more open data on us then the NSA, and the bad guys hack the FBI to steal it just as much...lol

Most likely though the people virusing you, are your family, friends and neighbors who hire people to do so...its so easy nowadays children can do it.

Edited by RichAC, 07 January 2014 - 07:49 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:51 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 07 January 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

Its pretty bad when the NSA sucks up everything yet hackers are not on the radar. 40 Mil credit cards stolen yet the NSA concerned with national security doesn't think that is a security issue.

Truth is its about control, and your the target.

I bet those hackers formed a premade.

#258 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 07:56 AM

View PostIV Amen, on 07 January 2014 - 07:51 AM, said:

I bet those hackers formed a premade.


Agreed but if they were really good hackers they would be in 12v because that's where the challenge is. 2nd tier hackers though need to inflate their egos so they stomp.

#259 Egomane

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 08:05 AM

Real world politics like the NSA crysis have to stay out of the forums. Please discuss this elsewhere and get back on topic.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:11 AM

I think there's quite a bit of server population. The long que times are due to the inefficient way the matchmaker works. MWO's top dawg players have been joking about huge q times even before 12v12, so it's not really strage that, if you're a bit high when it comes to ELO rating, you experience long waits.

Especially if you go in an assault mech as well.

To demonstrate this you can do a simple test:
- the matchamaker tracks ELO ratings seperately for each weight class. That is you have one rating for lights, another for mediums etc.
- observe the difference in waiting time between the weight class in which you have the highest W/L and the lowest.

I've only recently gotten into assault mechs and have been playing them tryhard, so waiting in my victor takes up to a several minutes. While the heavies and mediums which I used when I first started (and sucked) have virtually no waiting time (max 30 sec usually).

If LoL, with it's millions of players (and more efficient matchmaker) has longer q times at higher ELO ratings, how can you expect MWO not to experience the same effect ?



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