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[Draconis Nagasawa]

Rounin, on 14 December 2013 - 07:07 AM, said:

No, it is not necessary.
You could counter the 6PPC Stalker build by weapon size limitations.
Wow.
Suddenly there is no need for ghost heat.
Mind blown.

If content can be abused the player base will abuse it. Of course there were always more Ac40 jagers and more UAC5's. Next Troll!

[Rounin]

Crusadiar, on 14 December 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

If content can be abused the player base will abuse it. Of course there were always more Ac40 jagers and more UAC5's. Next Troll!

You are horrifying.

[Rubidiy]

I'd like to have an option between two clanmech packs which contain 4 mechs each.

[Ice Viper]

Andodx, on 14 December 2013 - 07:09 AM, said:

I Quote!

yeah....i'm glad i'm not a big clan guy. though i'd probably pay a fair coin for the other big name unseens. Didn't know we were going to be all Call of Duty: MWO with the gold skinned mechs. Love to explain why i have a fancy skinned mech & i have to tell my 7 year old why a different skinned skylander that doesn't do anything different is ridiculous to have....

[KKillian]

Can the packages and gold mechs be made giftable for tax reasons?

[Draconis Nagasawa]

Rounin, on 14 December 2013 - 07:14 AM, said:

You are horrifying.

Lol, you put a smile on my face

[Alex Wolfe]

Maybe it's being the "told you so" guy, but... here, have a relevant pic from late 2012.

The more things change, the more they stay awful, huh.

Edited by Alex Wolfe, 14 December 2013 - 07:18 AM.

[Appogee]

KKillian, on 14 December 2013 - 07:15 AM, said:

Can the packages and gold mechs be made giftable for tax reasons?

FAQ addresses that.

No.

[Khobai]

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Obviously founders and pheonix package was enough for you to buy. But Clans are not? Right....

Maybe you havent noticed... Phoenix was $80 for 4 phoenix mechs and 8 standard mechs. Clan package is $120 for the same thing... that's a 50% price hike over phoenix. Why? Shouldnt we get a sale during Christmas? Not a 50% price increase? Most other games are giving 20% off sales during Christmas. PGI is giving us a 50% more sale. So yeah thats what I call fail marketing.

But again the price point isnt even the biggest issue I have. Its the fact that all mechs are obstensibly the same due to the bland hardpoint and skill systems implemented in the game. This game would be so much better if every mech was just... different.

Edited by Khobai, 14 December 2013 - 07:23 AM.

[KKillian]

Appogee, on 14 December 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

FAQ addresses that.

No.

Sarcasm really does need its own font.

[Yazleb]

Such greed, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
You have no shame, this game is NOT finished, AT ALL, not at all.

How on earth do you people feel comfortable going home at night, knowing that you are trying to get this kind of money from people without actually showing them anything, really have you even looked into any mirrors lately?

There are Early Access games on Steam that have more modes and content than MWO, what in your part of the world makes you think that you can just keep promising and not delivering.
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RULE #1 of courteous game development ---> DO NOT put more things up for sale until you actually have a complete product... DON'T do it, stop this non-sense.
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And look here, I love this game, I think, what is here is fantastic, but have some class, some shame, some sense of dignity, finish your game, it's still in Beta, it never really launched, and you know it.

I wouldn't be so emotional if I didn't like the work you've done and MechWarrior so much.
Really I'm sorry for getting pissy, but PGI you should be more sorry to your community for never finishing your game for such an utterly long time. Your studio clearly reeks of inexperience on multiple fronts.

Listen to your community PGI, you need some tough love and we are giving it.
Our tough stance doesn't mean we don't love this game and it doesn't mean we don't like your work, but even parents have to yell at their kids from time to time.

SHAPE UP.


ps: This week I brought 3 new players into this game from work, they love it, but they won't spend money until you get CW and more modes in the game, because even they said, hmm this game is still in beta.

[smokefield]

at the rate this topic is growing i know that no one reads all the previous posts and probably miss a lot of good opinions (i just read only about 15 pages or so until i HAD to say smth)...so I will quote what i though and you know how is it....words and rants on forums are just BLA BLA BLA....LETS DO SOMETHING !

I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THOSE WHO LOVE MW GAMES STOP PLAYING AND BOYCOTTING THIS LAST MOVE FROM PGI. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SAVE THIS GAME ! the way they are managing it now it will be the downfall of it.

THINK ABOUT IT !

[Banshee Bullet]

100 bucks says gold mechs instantly become the number 1 target priority on the battlefield when they are released.

We'll call it "going for gold", too bad the olympics will be over by then.

[Kelvin Casing]

Yeah, I've spent $200 on MWO in the last 6 months, including Phoenix Overlord... that's basically 1 new game per month. Now, don't get me wrong I love the IP and I'm happy to support the franchise, but the wallet is off limits until the gameplay improves - CW, game modes, etc etc etc.

[Threat Doc]

Inevitability... and LIES!!!

I knew it was inevitable that the Clans would come out, I expected them and was more or less prepared to welcome them onto the landscape, as they have now become a part of my BattleTech.

PGI, please release some NEW information about UI 2.0 and Community Warfare?

Please tell me that all of this is going to be released before the halfway point between now and June 17th, so I have time to get things set up in the Merc Corps HQ?

Please tell me that I will have true management and logistics capability some time before the Clans drop on us? I would like to have a few months fighting Inner Sphere contracts, to learn the Planetary system before I also have to deal with the Clans?

I have been white knighting for this game -a derogatory term, I know- for a couple of months, now, have been working on play, but this afternoon's announcement was a punch in the guts for me, and I don't want to play anymore tonight because of it. Though I'm sure I'll be back, it would be awfully nice to have some answers, please?

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EDIT, early morning, December 14th, 2013: I am, at present, vacillating over a decision of whether to let this betrayal slide off my back, and just continue on, to take yet more lies over something that's very VERY VERY important to me and just let it go and continue playing, or to walk away from it forever.

I am leaning toward the latter. This would not be a rage quit... no, this is something that would take a long time to think my way through. Every time someone else has played the wounded animal over some imagined, or real, slight concerning anything happening with this game, I have been unaffected, and I have tried to encourage them to stay on, to wait and see what's going to happen with this game when it is in its completion stages. I have done this despite one BAD business decision after another; this one about the Clans BEFORE UI 2.0 and CW is the absolute worst, yet. Not because the Clans' machines are being sold -which IS bad enough in and of itself-, but because we were told certain things would be done, first, there was an order. Even at the launch party, there was an order. Yet, Bryan and Russ, nor anyone else in the PGI crew, can or will explain what's going on with the better portion of the game, and they all but entirely ignore any feedback coming from us...

I don't think I can stay, any longer, and I urge everyone to withdraw... come back from the lies, come back from the constantly changing information we get only snippets of. Just the day before yesterday, I sent a compliment through Reppu from IGP's support center, something that was heart-felt and joyous concerning the state of this game. Now, I don't think I can muster anything for PGI, anymore. We will see over the coming days.

Edited by Kay Wolf, 14 December 2013 - 07:37 AM.

[William Warriors]

PGi should have a better sales team who are doing this clan mech promotion.. the sales pitch they are doing insults their customers and scare them off.

They need to change their strategy before this sink the game they had created, and destroy the customer base that are getting less and less, customers whom are disillusion by the direction this game is going.

Otherwise, by June next year, those whom are crazy enough to had bought the Clan mechs may not get to collect it if the game does not exist anymore..

[Penance]

On second look, it isn't as terrible as I thought, and have to [REDACTED] some of what I said earlier. I just moused over the pic of the masakari and saw that you get chassis of each. So, these ARE like the founders packs in that you get everything. There really is a lot here on second look, way more than I had thought. I still think lower tiers should each have more though....yes, I did get the masakari pack after realizing all it had, I have been waiting for the clans since founding and am very happy they are finally here.

That is not to say that I am somewhat saddened by other posts I've seen, and the fact that this is another cash grab. For some this IS a good time for this to come out, for others it's not. For me, it was. The gold mechs though...nuts. Interested in seeing one in game. I've also been asking for a new mode, CTF, or something, CW...hell, that pic pretty much said it all (you know the one), hope that stuff trickles out between now and then...with all these mechs, and fixes implemented and working, this game could really be great.

Edited by Penance, 14 December 2013 - 07:34 AM.

[Thorn Hallis]

Rounin, on 14 December 2013 - 07:07 AM, said:

No, it is not necessary.
You could counter the 6PPC Stalker build by weapon size limitations.
Wow.
Suddenly there is no need for ghost heat.
Mind blown.

Great, and then we have MW4 Redux. No, thanks.

GreatBeer, on 14 December 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

Lets look on the bright side: MWO will probably be the last PC game PGI ever makes.

/fixed

Penance, on 14 December 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

On second look, it isn't as terrible as I thought, and have to [REDACTED] some of what I said earlier. I just moused over the pic of the masakari and saw that you get 24 variants of that, PLUS, 3 of every other, one of those 3 being the prime "named" variant, another 21 more, so that's 45 mechs. So, these ARE like the founders packs in that you get everything. There really a lot here on second look, way more than I had thought. I still think lower tiers should each have more though....yes, I did get the masakari pack after realizing all it had, I have been waiting for the clans since founding and am very happy they are finally here.

Ehm...its 24 Mechbays, not 24 variants of the Masakari.

Edited by Thorn Hallis, 14 December 2013 - 07:26 AM.

[Draconis Nagasawa]

Khobai, on 14 December 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

Maybe you havent noticed... Phoenix was $80 for 4 phoenix mechs and 8 standard mechs. Clan package is $120 for the same thing... that's a 50% price hike over phoenix. Why? Shouldnt we get a sale during Christmas? Not a 50% price increase?

Most other games are giving 20% off sales during Christmas. PGI is giving us a 50% more sale. So yeah thats fail marketing.

Aww but its Clan Mechs!

[Reno Blade]

Reno Blade, on 14 December 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

If you had the 4 mechs for 120$ and each of the other 4 as "addon packs" for 30$ each, you could have a lot more success.
500$ for Goldmech? With the FULL Pack + Goldmech that would still be 260$ for this one extra gold mech, but ONE Mech only?
NO WAY!
This has to be a typo. If you buy a single mech for 50$, that would already be more expensive than an assault Hero mech. but 10X the money? You can't be serious.

Marketing is all about the feeling of the customer. Make them feel like they get more than they really do.

Hope you can see what I mean with this:


Here you choose the Daishi Pack + Added Ryoken and Madcat (for +30$ each) to get 6 mech packs for 180$.

Choosing Blackhawk would unlock light+medium addon,
Choosing Thor would unlock light+medium+heavy addon,
and choosing the Daishi pack would unlock all 4 addons.
That way you still need to take the Thor to get the MadCat. This would prevent people from getting an Uller + MadCat only

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