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#2601 BadOptics

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:42 AM

View PostSilent, on 14 December 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:


A controversial announcement dropped on a Friday afternoon, giving the community two days to steam over it, and for enough people to calm down to listen to whatever hat-in-hand pity excuse PGI doles out convincing enough of them to shell out $200+ in currently non-existent merchandise.

They know exactly what they are doing.


And what's really great is that once they move to a video format for Ask-the-Devs they won't have to worry about people posting pesky screen caps of things they've said when these flare ups happen! Said videos will, of course, be taken down after a set period of time.

#2602 James Montana

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:43 AM

PGI,

Content then mechs. It goes content then mechs. If not, then you give the impression you're pulling a bait and switch. Thus, hatred ensues.

#2603 Roadbeer

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:43 AM

View PostJames Montana, on 14 December 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

PGI,

Content then mechs. It goes content then mechs. If not, then you give the impression you're pulling a bait and switch. Thus, hatred ensues.


Umm, mechs ARE content.
Just sayin

#2604 evillittlestew

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:44 AM

Play Mech Warrior Liveing Legends it's so much better than this game and just much much more fun dony have to pay for **** other than buying crysis war head to download the mod! yes A MOD a MOD is better than MWO in every aspect and you will have all the mechs you love like the WARHAMMER!

#2605 WM Jeri

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:44 AM

View PostAesis, on 14 December 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

He's saying anyone without a 'badge' has no right to say a thing!


Yep thats how I took his comment too Aesis.

It seems he thinks non payers are not important to the community? They add no value? They don't have a voice? They are second class players? ...I disagree. I see lots of constructive feedback and PGI supporters who from their forum profile have appeared to only invest thier time.

Just because someone cannot monetarily support the game because of their financial situation and real life obligations does not make them less valued in my mind as a community member and I am interested in all members opinions. I would hope the devs, and other players are too. There was a time I was the poor newly married 2 new babies fresh out of the Army house buying gamer and my game purchasing ability reflected that.

Edited by WM Jeri, 14 December 2013 - 09:46 AM.


#2606 Mavqie

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

i think they would actually make money from this if they did not use large packages

that way you get to buy the one mech you want with its other variants for say $30 instead of spending shitloads more just to buy a package because its the only one the mech you want is in

Fail...

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

Good plan PGI! Milk the leftovers until they bleed!

#2608 Butane9000

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 14 December 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:


Umm, mechs ARE content.
Just sayin


I think he meant Features.

#2609 James Montana

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 14 December 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:


Umm, mechs ARE content.
Just sayin


Granted. Content precluding mechs was implied.

#2610 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 14 December 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:


Umm, mechs ARE content.
Just sayin


No, they really aren't at this point.

There are enough mechs and variation among the mechs we have now, that anything they release at this point is a rehash.

Maps are also pretty much at a point where they are not content either.

Sure it's the moon, but in the end it's just another flat space for us to play the same two game modes we've had forever

CW is content, New game modes are content. Even collisions due to the sheer change in game play would be content.

Mechs are fluff now. Pure fluff.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:46 AM

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PGI u did very well, u deserve it, take my money

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#2612 Darksunstar

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:47 AM

The gold mechs must be impervious to laser fire I am thinking and the gold must make missils fly off in different directions thus not hitting the golden mech

Edited by Darksunstar, 14 December 2013 - 09:49 AM.


#2613 Roadbeer

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 14 December 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:


No, they really aren't at this point.

There are enough mechs and variation among the mechs we have now, that anything they release at this point is a rehash.

Maps are also pretty much at a point where they are not content either.

Sure it's the moon, but in the end it's just another flat space for us to play the same two game modes we've had forever

CW is content, New game modes are content. Even collisions due to the sheer change in game play would be content.

Mechs are fluff now. Pure fluff.


Nope, CW is a feature, Mech is content.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

Well, I can safely say, I will not be shelling out a single penny till I see CW, UI 2.0, WAY better prices for Clan Tech Pre-orders, and way more info on how Clan Mechs will work compared to IS mechs. PGI, quit provoking your player base, or for the love of the IP, please sell this game to someone who will actually respond to our feedback promptly.

No more money from us till we see UI 2.0, CW and better explanation of Clan Tech.

Pick up the ball guys, you are ruining the BT universe you claim to like/love by watering it down so much.

#2615 Aesis

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 14 December 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:


Nope, CW is a feature, Mech is content.


WHAT?!?!

#2616 Miken

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

View Postevillittlestew, on 14 December 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

Play Mech Warrior Liveing Legends it's so much better than this game and just much much more fun dony have to pay for **** other than buying crysis war head to download the mod! yes A MOD a MOD is better than MWO in every aspect and you will have all the mechs you love like the WARHAMMER!

Only download client based on crysis warhead demo - full free

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

Meanwhile outside PGI...

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 14 December 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:


You think if the Phoenix Project was a failure...that they would have done this?

If we had all stood up and said "NO PHOENIX PROJECT MONEY UNTIL WE HAVE CW/UI2.0" that they would've dropped this Clan stuff?

Hell no. They would have either decided to fold or actually made a real effort to get CW/UI2.0 done.

Everyone who purchased the Phoenix Project enabled PGI.

If I tell my kid to clean their room, and a week later they still haven't cleaned it, then they ask for a cookie and say they will clean it afterwards....guess what? If I give them that cookie they know they don't have to do what they should and still get rewarded.


I suppose it comes down to when you joined the action. If you started as a founder, you were probably already disillusioned by the time Phoenix came around. When Phoenix launched, I'd only just started really playing MWO then and it still seemed viable that PGI was still going to deliver. But now, I am also disillusioned and agree we need to turn the money tap off.

That said, turning the money off won't make the game improve, it will make the game cease to be, more likely.

Either way, I don't think you can blame anyone for spending money on MWO even if they buy the clan packs today; you CAN blame PGI for not delivering and so we should. o7

Edited by Kelvin Casing, 14 December 2013 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 14 December 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

I'm also quite enjoying all of the people with Overlord badges posting their distaste.

Fools are soon parted from their money and all that.

Can only speak for myself, but hey, since you called us fools, I'll respond, and with more class.

I got my money's worth and more from Founder and Overlord and do not regret the purchases at all, but at this point I want a better game before more chassis. That's not hypocrisy.

#2620 Knight_Invictus

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

My initial thought when seeing this package was wow, nice! I'm a big fan of the Mad Cat. I have played all the Mechwarrior PC games and they were my favorites by far. I have spent (invested) a large amount of money on MWO (more than 10 times what I normally spend on a game, like BF3 & 4 for example). I have been all in for MWO since closed Beta. However, this Clan pre-sale (timing and higher cost) and the lack of UI 2.0 and CW is now giving me serious pause!

I really hope CW and UI 2.0 (a better UI than the current UI 1.5, with a Smurfy import or other tool like that built in) are released and working well before this package sale ends. If not, I will probably not continue to spend any additional money on the game. For me this outcome would be heartbreaking. I really want MWO to succeed and prosper for many years to come.

Devs/PGI please don't drop the ball on this game!!!

Edited by Knight4Him, 14 December 2013 - 09:56 AM.






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