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#2881 Ursus_Spiritus

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:36 AM

As long as I have loved Mechwarrior/Battletech, the money and time I have spent on computer hardware to play MW over the years, miniatures for table top and the books, materials for painting said miniatures, the friends and acquaintances I made..

Sorry PGI but 250$/500$ for just ASPECTS of the game?

No. Just no. We never had to pay for mechs before. I was totally gungho about this game... now I am "yeah, NO!"

You dropped the ball on this PGI.

#2882 Dan Nashe

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:36 AM

$10 a mech would be one thing.
But really, if you only really want to pilot the hero version, its' $30.
And you can't choose what's in the pack. So if you want a Ryoken, it's . . . (STormcrow) $180.
$150 if you want a Puma.

And we don't even have any details on how clan technology will work.
none!

How about $15 for a standalone special, $30 for a set, choose your own.
:-p

And . . Special Modules for $500?
Either your an ***** throwing your money away ($500!) on useless stuff.
Or it's useful and I'm quitting. :-p.

I just started reading the forums while playing, and this announcement caused me to quit the game and go do something else :-p.

#2883 ContingencyPlan

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:37 AM

I think that the pricing system is outrageous. There are only 2-3 mechs out of the collection I want and I should not have to spend the $240 for the entire package to get all of them. There needs to be a separate pricing system for people who want to take advantage of the pre-purchase bonuses but want to be able to pick and choose which of the mechs they get. What if I want ONLY the Mad Cat?

#2884 Victor Morson

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:37 AM

View PostGremlich Johns, on 14 December 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

The comparisons between SC and PGI and their business models needs to stop - they are not the same.


The comparisons started because PGI decided they were.

#2885 storm0545

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

Oh this is wonderful you can't even use ultimate game cards on this looks like i wont be buying these at all until they allow it.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

Very nice IGP...

PGI, I love this game, but as others have said: give us worthy DX11, well designed UI 2.0, functional and interesting CW and then I'll consider spending further $240 on MWO.

Mechs are awesome, but we need actual community-building functionality.

Edited by Bors Mistral, 14 December 2013 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

READ MY TEXT! NO MORE MONEY PERIOD. UNTILL YOU DELIVER CW, UI2, NEW MODES NO MORE MONEY WILL PLAYSPAN / PGI MWO GET NOT ONE MORE DIME. PERIOD. FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU THERE WILL BE NO SHAME ON ME. AND FIVE HUNDRED FOR THE GOLD MECH YOU MUST BE DAFT..... NO NADA END FINISH UNTILL YOU DELIVER AS PROMISED.....

#2888 Victor Morson

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostJDH4mm3r, on 14 December 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

you sir have blind faith then.

MWO > MW1
MW2 > MW3
MW4 > MWO


If you adjust for "technology inflation" MW1 is in no way near the bottom of the list. It got the Btech feeling arguably the best, with half working 'mechs, limited repair parts, seedy locations and a great contract negotiation system.

Hell why couldn't we have had a remake of that?

#2889 Appogee

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostTschekal, on 14 December 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

If you are talking about the "Unique Module", i think its more like a autorefill Airstrike, at least no Slot.

You're right, it says ''Unique Bonus Module'', not slot. I took it to mean a slot, but it could also be a particular unique Module of some sort.
I wonder what it is? I also wonder if PGI know at this stage what it is.

#2890 Corwin Maxwell

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:39 AM

This is what IGP/PGI is doing to the ip, game, community, etc.
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This is the Defenders of IGP/PGI
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And now we have a look at the community at large!

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And after all the lies, scams, insults, vitriol, you still believe what these snake oil salesmen preach/pitch to you. You all honestly deserve all this [scrap] and should lie in the beds we made for ourselves, by allowing this [redacted] to happen. Myself and several other people tried to warn the community about this but it all went threw one zombie ear to the other zombie ear. So until this game is either declare by law as the ponzi scheme it is, or it gets the content promised. ya'll enjoy yourselves!

#2891 Banshee Bullet

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:40 AM

This time last year everyone was waiting for:

new game modes, ui 2.0, community warfare, clans

That list seems strangely familiar...

btw, those were expected to start showing up in a few short months. If I remember correctly they even mentioned completely re-writing the netcode around that time too.

If you really think you'll have all the clan mechs they are promising by next July, then I have bridge to sell you.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostVictor Morson, on 14 December 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:


If you adjust for "technology inflation" MW1 is in no way near the bottom of the list. It got the Btech feeling arguably the best, with half working 'mechs, limited repair parts, seedy locations and a great contract negotiation system.

Hell why couldn't we have had a remake of that?


Because people are getting dumber Victor.

#2893 Ngamok

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostEldante, on 13 December 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

Phoenix package was fun until i found out how poorly the thunderbolt's and locust's would perform. I'm not ever going to drop more than 100 dollars ever again on a package. In fact cbill's are all your getting out of me ever again just for having the audacity to try and charge 240+ dollar's for a package. The Official quit playing date for me just might be june 17th especially if 12 man premades are going to be steamrolling pugs.


Nothing wrong with Thunderbolts, must be the pilot.

#2894 Not Bob

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostDanNashe, on 14 December 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

$10 a mech would be one thing.
But really, if you only really want to pilot the hero version, its' $30.
And you can't choose what's in the pack. So if you want a Ryoken, it's . . . (STormcrow) $180.
$150 if you want a Puma.

And we don't even have any details on how clan technology will work.
none!

How about $15 for a standalone special, $30 for a set, choose your own.
:-p

And . . Special Modules for $500?
Either your an ***** throwing your money away ($500!) on useless stuff.
Or it's useful and I'm quitting. :-p.

I just started reading the forums while playing, and this announcement caused me to quit the game and go do something else :-p.


You probably can buy them, once everything is released in June, like the phoenix package.

They put the more popular ones on top so they can get more money. They know people want the favorite mechs, so they force them to buy others as well. Its smart as a business, but irking as a player.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:42 AM

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this is my first posting and this may be my last.

"the invasion is coming"
after cw/dx11/ui2.0 or when?

golden "bling bling"-mechs?
really?

i spent "some" money over the time for mwo but at this "still beta"-state and this really bad joke, i wont anymore until you deliver any of your promises.

#2896 Lorokin

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:43 AM

Holy **** bunnies!

PGI/IGP ...what is with this? You're Promo back in October showed so much promise. UI 2.0 + New CW System + Merc Corps/Clans/IS Houses info.

Then we get Merc Corp info, props for that. And now this...right after the last pack. You provide no information as to what's going on internally.

No game plan with this mech pack, no estimated release [of UI, CW, etc] and the reason behind it. 6 months from now, I would expect us to have UI 2.0 and the CW system in place and balanced. You guys don't have Inner Sphere weapons and tech balanced and you want to jump into Clan Tech which has ALWAYS been the notably hard balancing act in all the previous titles that have had both techs available.

I have hope that you're not just screwing people over and wanting to jump back into the timeline properly, because lets be honest, you're behind...way behind.

This move with no other information seems like nothing more than simply gouging your community for money. And yes, WE ARE YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE, whether you want to admit it or not. Because you can be damn sure the hardcore fans will be the one you'll make the money off of in the long run, not new users. And if you austrasize us, you're going to kill this game quite quickly because we won't be playing it and won't be encouraging our friends (your "new" users) to play with us.

Focus more on the promises and actual content (mechs are not content) for your game then just mech packs for money. Also, don't follow World of Tanks business model for pricing. You're already WAY over priced for what you're actually selling, hell World of Tanks is way over priced for what you get.

You guys need a new business model and CEO's that will actually put you on the right track for a game that will have longevity into the future. Because at the current juncture you've pretty much taken every opportunity to **** off and spit in the face of your community.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostBanshee Bullet, on 14 December 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

If you really think you'll have all the clan mechs they are promising by next July, then I have bridge to sell you.

They will produce the Mechs on time.

But they won't produce a reason to be interested in using the Mechs - ie, Community Warfare - by then.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:44 AM

Just glad I'm a confirmed IS pilot.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostBanshee Bullet, on 14 December 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

This time last year everyone was waiting for:

new game modes, ui 2.0, community warfare, clans

That list seems strangely familiar...

btw, those were expected to start showing up in a few short months. If I remember correctly they even mentioned completely re-writing the netcode around that time too.

If you really think you'll have all the clan mechs they are promising by next July, then I have bridge to sell you.

Just wait for the infux of PM's asking you for details like: how many lanes? Length? location? lol

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostKyrie, on 14 December 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

I am having real trouble understanding how PGI is running their business. A pre-sale of the single most important expected content of the game (the clans) should be planned a bit more carefully, and it should be a joy to the developers and the community both.

It should also be easy to understand what one is getting (please see Star Citizen as an example of how they manage to explain each ship's qualities even though its still not designed or implemented).

This sale is not easy to understand, every element of it is undefined: module, warhorn, mechs (omni? hardpoint? just like an IS mech?), technology?

PGI -- why try to start a sale, perhaps the most important sale ever for you guys, without helping us understand what it is you want us to buy?


If we understood what we were going get, NO ONE WOULD BUY IT!

That is why they cant tell us.





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