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[Horkerkiin]

Wow, The prices are far too high, Far to damn high, this really is a rip, Honestly, with the next gen consoles your looking at paying £50 - £55 for a new gen game - thats for a whole game, now the only pack I would be intrested in is The Mad Cat pack as it has the Mad Cat, I dont want any of the other mechs all i would do is sell them to pimp out my 3 mad cats and you want me to pay £128.94 for this pack bearing in mind you can by a new gen GAME not just content for less than half that,

Honestly PGI I know your a company and you need to make money but this is an outright ripoff, I thought to myself with the last reinforcments package if it had a mad Cat I would pay for that, but not at this price its ridicoulous, I love Mechwarrior, Have done since I was a kid, but this is too much.

You get Hardly any CBills per match so It takes ages to save for things to buy in game by playing not only that but Mad cat variants probably wont be for sale in the mech lab untill what? October?

Seriously I know this is just my opinoin and many others wont share this but it really feels to me like you are sticking it to the fans

[Helmer]

Clan Technology Design update just posted


http://mwomercs.com/...gn-perspective/



Cheers.

[Kaijin]

Roadbeer, on 14 December 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Show me somewhere, anywhere where I've defended this package beyond mocking the absolute epic nerdrage associated with it. Personally, I don't care one way or another... but you all, the nerdrage is DELICIOUS.

I know that facts elude you when it's so much easier to resort to opinion and hyperbole Victor, just like when you make your horribly biased polls... anyone who even remotely disagrees with you is either a troll or a White Knight, but as per usual Corky, it's just your opinion and not TRULY facts

White Knighting 101:
Pick a fight in a thread you want to see closed down to give mods an excuse to close the thread down.

[King Arthur IV]

GrizzlyViking, on 13 December 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

Maybe the $500.00 package includes PGI stock?

your better off spending that money towards bitcoins 800-900 a coin right now.

[Wabbit Swaya]

Roadbeer, on 14 December 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Lulz. 1/6 of this thread is posts from the same 10 people.

You know that stat includes you.

[Rick Rawlings]

Ok, time for some more humor in this thread:

"What?!?! $500 for a gold plated Mad Cat?!?! I dunno, can you put two PPCs and an AC10 on it?"

Badum-boom!
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what? Too soon?

[Riptor]

Why couldnt it be a photoshop... i really really wanted it to be a photoshop...

But ofcourse pgi has to proof me wrong in their ineptitude...

1 month ago "we havent finalized clan tech concept yet".... BOOM clanmech grabdeal.

1 year ago "community warfare will be released 2 months after open beta!"..... crickets...

[The Lonegopher]

240 dollars gets me half the way to an Xbox One or PS4. 240 dollars gets me 4 games for Xbox with how many hours of content in single player plus multiplayer (trust me thats an expansive number uncalculatable). Founders package to raise money to develop the game, from that point out micro transactions to improve and make profit. Now we have a founders project, phoneix and clan package to make your game which most people now I have to believe think will never be more than a pay for more mechs game and no improvement. You guys are so lame. Micro transaction bro. I ain't buying nothing more from you. I sunk 140 in this thing as a student, that's two games and some content release material, I buy two games a year if I'm lucky and I've sunk it in a game I tried to have good faith in and support. I'm not gonna do the breakdown on money for how much each of the mechs will cost and how much the slot to cost is. But this is micro to me. 50 cents to the extreme of maybe a buck for a slot to put an effin mech. A 100 ton mech 5 bucks extreme limit. Those seem like micro transactions and even then thats pushing the limits. I payed 3 bucks for the Halo tablet game. It's a freaking game. Don't even let me go onto the subject of steam. Just because you can bend people over on price doesn't make it ethically right broski. Shame on you.

[Jack Gallows]

PGI, your issues are thus:

1. Pricing for this pack is absurd compared to the quality and deals offered in both the Founder and Phoenix packages. Both packs, while a bit pricy, definitely gave you your monies worth and quite a bit more in terms of value of items. This new grouping of packs is a slap in the face to your consumer (especially the hardcore Clanners having to wait on you to deliver their chosen faction,) with insane price gouging. Nevermind that it often appears as a cash grab, as whenever development sags or features are pushed back we get another kickstater pack to drum up sales.

2. Smoke and Mirrors - Much of the content of this pack relies on empty information and the promise of forthcoming information. With a tendency to outright change your design goals and change systems/add systems that drastically alter your promised content before delivery, many people are hesitant to buy into something that A) currently is handicapped by what we know of the game (Warhawk and Nova Prime are both screwed out of the gate by Ghost Heat for example) and has additional new perks that are in no way explained and we have every right to assume won't be for a very long time. Add on top of this current features slated for release that have been pushed back repeatedly and are basically just empty promises at this point.

So, lot of talking and no real doing, with a great deal of mishandled communication and public relations on top of incredibly buggy/broken aspects of the game. Granted, things can change...but you have a track record of change being negative.

This pack just showcases and brings to front your glaring issues of the overall game and hurts your position even more by the insane price model. A game has to be worth it's content for people to want to spend money on it or have a good track record/loyalty...which you don't have. The loyalty is to the IP...not you.

DISCLAIMER: These views not held by everyone in the community nor will I say the majority as I wish to not put words in other members mouths. They will speak for themselves, however I feel you'll see common themes.

*EDIT* Clan Tech review, based on demonstration numbers (which I know are for example) still show a drastic balance issue with Clan tech. Clan tech will still be desired over Inner Sphere and cost will become irrelevant so it's a not a worthy argument.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 14 December 2013 - 02:14 PM.

[990Dreams]

Niko Snow, on 14 December 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

UPDATE 2013-12-14:
Curious about Clan Tech Design? Find out more here:
http://mwomercs.com/

Uhhh, wrong link?

[C12AZyED]

This is how I feel about this:

[kuangmk11]

Helmer, on 14 December 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Clan Technology Design update just posted


http://mwomercs.com/...gn-perspective/



Cheers.

Looks like this time the IS wins!

[Roadbeer]

Kaijin, on 14 December 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

White Knighting 101:
Pick a fight in a thread you want to see closed down to give mods an excuse to close the thread down.

LOL, not at all, y'all amuse the {Scrap} out of me. Go look at K Town some time. Besides, feedback threads kinda hang around, so that would be a futile effort on my part. Also, again, you confuse White Knight and Troll. L2Forum.

Wabbit Swaya, on 14 December 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

You know that stat includes you.

Yup , I own about 2 pages of Real Estate in this thread by mocking the nerdrage.

[Poxzwar]

I hope this runaway train of a thread breaks through PGI's bubble. They need a reality check badly. The delays are terrible and this clan sale is insulting, but those things don't bother me nearly as much as the fact that after this long PGI would remove the cap points from the maps and call it a new game mode. If I worked there I would be embarrassed. I have been a BattleTech player since 1988, I am a founder and an overlord in this game. Many of us waited a long time for a BT game. You will have to do better.

[Cest7]

Macrotransactions... This is a thing now?

[matux]

King Arthur IV, on 14 December 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

$4000.... you can... do all of the below
--get a massage (not the happy ending kind)

Why not?

[Talys]

Well PGI as always the tantrums are a little over the top so I'll send you some positives.

First, let's see what's coming out next patch and over the next few months before crying about these being announced 'before important things are added to the game!' I get it, you need to pay staff and these are still 6 months away anyway. I'm sure much will happen in MWO before then.

I personally think the clan designs are excellent, I am a designer myself and I totally appreciate the work. They look as they should imho.

As for the packages, (aside from the gold mechs which I'll ignore for now) they are at most $10 per mech plus mech bay and go down from that as you add premium time, bonus items etc. So they aren't quite as overpriced as many are making out here. There are games charging upwards of $50 for single units. People are dropping much more on Star Citizen ships for example that you can't fly yet and before there's even a playable game. Of course, no one has to pre-order these mechs anyway, it's an option for those who want to, so for those willing to drop the cash, great, PGI can pay some more bills.

On the other hand, $500 for a single mech with a gold skin? Are you insane? On the surface this seems like a joke and I'm curious to see what the dev's comments on it are. I will say this; if you can convince someone to spend $500 for one mech and you just have to throw a different paint job on it? Maybe that's brilliant! Brilliance is often mistaken for insanity. : )

[Tsula]

Donning my fire retardant suit....

Their has never been a Mechwarrior game that has ever had a real CW, or other things in the pipe line. Every Mechwarrior has been about destroying other mech either those piloted by AI or those by other players. Yet everyone is pissed that game is lacking. No one is forcing to buying any package or keep playing said game. Am I happy about certain things no, but am I going to act like a little spoiled brat about.
In core concept the game is sound now if the other things planned failed well then that's another story. Ok I have my marsh mellows and hotdogs ready flame away.

[Fate 6]

Mal, on 13 December 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

I'm not a Clanner..but, I'm glad to see clans packs coming.

It'd be nice to have some more information on how the implementation is going to be done (given how OP clan tech was when it first showed up in lore).

re: Complaints about price point. I'll just point to the Star Citizen price points, and I know that there are quite a few MWO players who are also backers of that game (myself included). How many of you considered getting an Idris during the Anniversary/End of LTI sale?

(That said, yeah, I think $500 might be a tad high for a single Chassis)

I not only bought a Constellation but bought one for my friend as well even though he had already backed the game. I basically spent $500 on Star Citizen already, and it's not even playable yet. That's the confidence that people have in the developers.

MWO on the other hand is a very different thing. The developers were going on about how cool CW would be more than a year ago. The game is "released" now, and not only is the core game mode missing but the gameplay itself is incomplete. Look at Planetside 2. I haven't played it in forever, but even though it wasn't perfect on release it was basically a complete game. PGI is a joke and if I was in the video game industry I would blacklist every single employee at PGI. It isn't even IGP that's a problem, because MWT seems to be coming along and still shows some promise.

[Rounin]

tsula, on 14 December 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

Their has never been a Mechwarrior game that has ever had a real CW

Way to start your post with being wrong.