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[xhrit]

mint frog, on 27 December 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

I'm quite sure that you're beyond convincing for anything, since you're now openly just anti-goon and for all intents and purposes just trolling the thread out of spite.

I'm quite sure that you're beyond convincing for anything, since you're now openly just anti-PGI and for all intents and purposes just trolling the forums out of spite.

Seriously tho, you have earned a reputation as a 'notorious complainer'.

Gratz.

[MechFrog1]

xhrit, on 27 December 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

I'm quite sure that you're beyond convincing for anything, since you're now openly just anti-PGI and for all intents and purposes just trolling the forums out of spite.

Seriously tho, you have earned a reputation as a 'notorious complainer'.

Gratz.

You're the one claiming that PGI is incapable of running even a minor event as I described in my OP. Why are you so openly anti-PGI?

[GODzillaGSPB]

Mhm...while I do understand that opinions are different...shouldn't everybody at least understand where all the anti PGI hate is currently coming from? You could probably see if from space lol. Be a bit more open-minded towards the PGI hate, seriously dude.

[RG Notch]

mint frog, on 27 December 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

You're the one claiming that PGI is incapable of running even a minor event as I described in my OP. Why are you so openly anti-PGI?

I think I can field this one. did he ever say he was anti PGI?

[MechFrog1]

RG Notch, on 27 December 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

I think I can field this one. did he ever say he was anti PGI?

Haha... Thank you for the much needed laugh.

[xhrit]

GODzillaGSPB, on 27 December 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

Mhm...while I do understand that opinions are different...shouldn't everybody at least understand where all the anti PGI hate is currently coming from?

Most is coming from a small group of disgruntled individuals who have decided it is more fun to try and ruin games then play them.

mint frog, on 27 December 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

You're the one claiming that PGI is incapable of running even a minor event as I described in my OP.

They are not incapable. It would just be pointless.

You have basically designed an event that caters to an elite few, and would alienate all but the most hardcore players, while taxing development resources.

I think your idea is bad, sorry.

Edited by xhrit, 27 December 2013 - 03:42 PM.

[MechFrog1]

xhrit, on 27 December 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Most is coming from a small group of disgruntled individuals who have decided it is more fun to try and ruin games then play them.

Great! Now that you're accepted what your problem is, you can start working on not trying to ruin games by being a disgruntled little troll.

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They are not incapable. It would just be pointless, as most of the things you have listed are counter-productive.

You have basically designed an event that caters to an elite few, and would alienate all but the most hardcore players, while taxing development resources.

I think your idea is bad, sorry.

As evidenced from 15 pages of supportive comments (and just a couple of naysayers such as yourself), it clearly wouldn't have been pointless. Since I now have data to support my position and you have none, I suggest you adjust your position to one that more accurately represents reality.

The event would cater to all MWO players who would have been proud of their chance to participate in it. No one would have been alienated. If you wish to make such claims, back them up with some sort of argument. Otherwise they are as worthless as all of your other off-topic trolling in this thread.

I can totally accept that you think my idea is bad. However, you clearly cannot accept that almost everyone else thinks it was good. I'm sorry that the anti-goon chip on your shoulder puts you in the vast minority of opinions in this thread. Perhaps you're just on an island.

Don't worry. You can always just change your opinion later and say it was just your position at the time.

Edited by mint frog, 27 December 2013 - 03:55 PM.

[The Flying Gecko]

Pure madness. Completely impractical.

NEED to roll out clan pre-sales prior to Christmas.
Even if there's no gaurentee they'll be ready then.
Or only vague ideas how they will be 'balanced'
Or how they will fit into the "Community Warfare"
Or how the actual invasion will be handled, (if at all, chances are good the 'invasion' goes down just like the phoenix pack)

[Suprentus]

xhrit, on 27 December 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Most is coming from a small group of disgruntled individuals who have decided it is more fun to try and ruin games then play them.

Hmmm...wouldn't it make more sense to play games then ruin them? Not much use in playing a game after it's ruined, unless its ruination improved it in a way? Hm. Though I think this is more the case of my playing games, then PGI ruins them.

*I know you meant "than" instead of "then," btw, I'm just being snarky.*

[xhrit]

mint frog, on 27 December 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Great! Now that you're accepted what your problem is, you can start working on not trying to ruin games by being a disgruntled little troll.

As evidenced from 15 pages of supportive comments (and just a couple of naysayers such as yourself), it clearly wouldn't have been pointless. Since I now have data to support my position and you have none...

The event would cater to all MWO players who would have been proud of their chance to participate in it. No one would have been alienated. If you wish to make such claims, back them up with some sort of argument. Otherwise they are as worthless as all of your other off-topic trolling in this thread.

You want proof? Here you go. People are complaining about the last event, for exactly the reasons I described. There is a non zero chance people would complain about your event as designed. There it is, proof. People will complain about anything - the bigger and more important event, the more people will complain about it. Now, can you prove that a clan launch event like this would increases sales? Because if you can't, then your idea is as worthless as all of your other off-topic trolling in this thread.

Eric Wulfen, on 26 December 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Us Europeans where left out on one of the so called events "kill a Dev" who is never on when normal people play this game in Europe, a broken win 12 game and get a cockpt item that is not even working and no answer from them yet.

The Flying Gecko, on 27 December 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Pure madness. Completely impractical.
NEED to roll out clan pre-sales prior to Christmas.

Christmas is the most busy sales time of the year for any business. If there are cash flow issues, perhaps arising from some sort of boycot movement that may or may not be led by goons, then perhaps this was a move to ensure there is enough resources to continue development on this product?

That is after all why Hi-Rez studios decided to stop development on Global Agenda.

[RickySpanish]

We have all sorts of awesome feature ideas for our games at work which don't make it into the final product. The reason for this is almost always the same: Money. As in we need **** loads of it RIGHT NOW or this job won't be a paying one by next quarter. I've no doubt that ideas like Mint Frog's circulated around PGI's office many times, but the problem is that a cool reveal does not grease the wheels quite like a $500 dollar gold skin will.

The way they belched that nasty little Klan Kollection ad onto the front page was rather tasteless though imo, and any kind of reveal probably would have been better than a crappy youtube vid with a low res madcat shadow in it. I wonder who was on holiday or out sick when the OK was given for that little project...

Here's hoping they DO drop devs in clan Mechs for the main launch, you know, when they actually frigging exist and have some sort of design that is presentable.

[anonymous161]

xhrit, on 27 December 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Most is coming from a small group of disgruntled individuals who have decided it is more fun to try and ruin games then play them.


They are not incapable. It would just be pointless.

You have basically designed an event that caters to an elite few, and would alienate all but the most hardcore players, while taxing development resources.

I think your idea is bad, sorry.

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Ah your one of them white nights, those are getting more rare every day it seems. Have you not looked at the clan feed back lately? I'd say the great majority are against pgi anymore.

[MechFrog1]

xhrit, on 27 December 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

You want proof? Here you go. People are complaining about the last event, for exactly the reasons I described. There is a non zero chance people would complain about your event as designed. There it is, proof. People will complain about anything - the bigger and more important event, the more people will complain about it. Now, can you prove that a clan launch event like this would increases sales? Because if you can't, then your idea is as worthless as all of your other off-topic trolling in this thread.





Christmas is the most busy sales time of the year for any business. If there are cash flow issues, perhaps arising from some sort of boycot movement that may or may not be led by goons, then perhaps this was a move to ensure there is enough resources to continue development on this product?

That is after all why Hi-Rez studios decided to stop development on Global Agenda.

Have you ever been in a large room full of people and they're all laughing at someone who doesn't realize it?

That's you.

Edited by mint frog, 27 December 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[Kell Commander]

PGI needs to hire mint frog to their marketing team. A combination of marketing genius and reasonable pricing right there.

[RickySpanish]

You guys are awfully rude picking on just one person. One person who by the way, is largely correct... It's not that Mint Frog has a bad idea, but money speaks louder than the best idea in the world. Even louder than the best idea in the world that would eventually make far more money than the idea the marketing team have decided upon... Because you know, it's the account director who decides ultimately, not some bright folk with hard ons for fancy words

[MechFrog1]

RickySpanish, on 27 December 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

You guys are awfully rude picking on just one person. One person who by the way, is largely correct... It's not that Mint Frog has a bad idea, but money speaks louder than the best idea in the world. Even louder than the best idea in the world that would eventually make far more money than the idea the marketing team have decided upon... Because you know, it's the account director who decides ultimately, not some bright folk with hard ons for fancy words

A fool grabs a $5 note off the table even when he knows it'll grow to $10 tomorrow.

[MechFrog1]

xhrit, on 27 December 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Not if there are 5$ worth of bills to pay today, and if you don't pay them, there will be no tomorrow.

We have no indication that PGI is in any financial trouble. In fact, they've been quite vocal about how Phoenix was a huge success. Are you accessing information not otherwise available to the rest of us or are you merely speculating?

You see, this is the problem when the white knight adopts the lowering of the bar tactic. Either the game is a huge success in spite of all the notorious complainers, or it is in trouble, necessitating the kind of rushed no-effort cash grab that we got for the Clan reveal.

Which is it?

Edited by mint frog, 27 December 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[RickySpanish]

Phoenix was a huge success. Congratulations the bills are paid for 6 months. What's that? You want to have a job for a whole year?? ... Well there are these 'Clans' everyone seems to be excited about... Yeah sure we'll get something ready for Christmas! In game?! Christ no! We could recycle some of that Phoenix web stuff though...

[xhrit]

RG Notch, on 27 December 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I'd like to thank PGI for providing a virtually unending supply of blunders, goofs, missed deadlines, over promising, under delivering and awful community management.

So in otherwords, doing what every other game development company does.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Kell Commander, on 27 December 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

PGI needs to hire mint frog to their marketing team. A combination of marketing genius and reasonable pricing right there.

Wouldn't that be something like hiring a rocket surgeon to work at a Seven Eleven?