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#1 Arahantius

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:20 PM

I am new to the MWO game but not the battletech universe so excuse my lack of information on this subject.

I have been informed by several people on the forum that Spiders seem to have a balance issue in the game and that anyone using them is using a loophole of some sort. I have not found that to be the case myself but the animosity toward Spider pilots seems to coraborate the opinion.

Does anyone know what these gameplay imbalances are? Please share.

#2 Roadbeer

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:20 PM

Nope, they die just fine.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:22 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 11 January 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

Nope, they die just fine.

Hit detection on Spiders still don't work well...

#4 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:23 PM

There was a headache about them a while ago, something about hit boxes and HSR and reports of everything being fine. No ones really sure, but they did have their hitboxes tuned recently, and i haven't found anything out of the ordinary when firing at them.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:59 PM

There is a problem with hit detection on them, but I noticed it only happen with ac20, other weapons are fine...

#6 Deathlike

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:04 PM

Let me know when the Spider-5V is the start of the apocalypse.

Note: They are fine... it's that the 5V is terribad.

#7 Alcom Isst

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:36 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 11 January 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

Let me know when the Spider-5V is the start of the apocalypse.

Note: They are fine... it's that the 5V is terribad.


It will be a more amusing mech if we ever reach Compact Gyros. You could fit a PPC and Medium Laser in the CT, or a pair of Large Lasers.

Edited by Alcom Isst, 11 January 2014 - 05:37 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:42 PM

View PostAlcom Isst, on 11 January 2014 - 05:36 PM, said:

It will be a more amusing mech if we ever reach Compact Gyros. You could fit a PPC and Medium Laser in the CT, or a pair of Large Lasers.


I doubt we'd get that far (in terms of the timeline, or even getting something like this), besides it would be a serious balancing issue on some variants (although, I'm not sure if it'll make the Awesome-9M godly).

It would only be interesting if mixtech is allowed... (2 Clan ER Large or 1 Clan ERPPC would fit...)

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:45 PM

No, the people that complain about them are just bad at aiming.

#10 Green Mamba

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:49 PM

Probably all Light Mechs the way they are implemented in this game are OP compared to what their intended purpose is regardless of the skill of the Pilot.I do as well in my Jenner(sometimes Better) as I do in my DDC or my Highlander and that should not happen

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:59 PM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 11 January 2014 - 05:49 PM, said:

Probably all Light Mechs the way they are implemented in this game are OP compared to what their intended purpose is regardless of the skill of the Pilot.I do as well in my Jenner(sometimes Better) as I do in my DDC or my Highlander and that should not happen

LOL "intended purpose" oh god. Don't make me laugh so hard. The roles of mechs have always been skewed in MechWarrior games. You can't force tabletop logic on a video game. Hell, using tabletop logic you could argue your DDC and Highlander are both capable of things they shouldn't be able to do...

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 06:06 PM

doin just fine... 3ML + Ecm
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#13 Magnificent Bastard

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 06:11 PM

View PostWarblood, on 11 January 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

doin just fine... 3ML + Ecm
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What are you doing out of uniform? I thought it was customary for all Steiners to report for duty in Atlai. Has there been a change in custom or is your superior officer punishing you?

#14 Ngamok

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 06:12 PM

indubitably

#15 Asmudius Heng

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:22 PM

I am from Australia and i know my ping makes it hard to hit me in a spider.

I have bought only one and on the base level without any upgrades i was able to do stupidly well, but only because I had ECM and knew they were having serious issues hitting me.

They are very hard to hit because they are so thin, and are a little buggy so their survivability is beyond nearly all other lights I have found.

Are they overpowered? Depends how you define that, they can be taken down but generally you need to gang up on them or ignore them until they are the only ones left so you can getmore angles on them.

SSRMs and BAP are your friends against them

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:44 PM

Spider V apocalypse... j/k I was playing against newbs ^_^
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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:40 PM

Most light mechs are over powered right now. Especially Spyders.....It's almost to the point of quitting again for a few months. At least they finally fixed the ERPPC sniping from last year.


over-powered/buggy/glitchy is all the same garbage when it benefits them!

Edited by mogs01gt, 11 January 2014 - 09:41 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:50 PM

ITT:

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:22 PM

Spiders are not overpowered in the sense... they have MORE power... then others but the issue is you cannot kill them like any other mech. EVEN other light mechs smaller or same size.

They tend to have a dodge hitbox. So , in short they are broke in the fact you could blast them with a full on front 5 laser shot and do no damage or maybe 5 -- it's amazing to watch also why they are left last in many drops.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:24 PM

View PostArahantius, on 11 January 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:


I have been informed by several people on the forum that Spiders seem to have a balance issue .

There's your first problem ^_^





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