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[Fox With A Shotgun]

PSA for all Locust pilots:

The boxes in front of the ramps in Terra Therma form legit pillboxes for Locusts. You can shoot out of the centre gap in the box, the enemy can't even lock on to you, and they can't hit you with anything other than lasers and maybe gauss rounds. Even PPC bolts will actually get stuck on the boxes.

You can punish people with impunity from this position. Torso mounts on the 1V and 1M are compatible.

Edited by Fox With A Shotgun, 04 April 2016 - 03:16 PM.

[Virlutris]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 04 April 2016 - 03:15 PM, said:

PSA for all Locust pilots:

The boxes in front of the ramps in Terra Therma form legit pillboxes for Locusts. You can shoot out of the centre gap in the box, the enemy can't even lock on to you, and they can't hit you with anything other than lasers and maybe gauss rounds. Even PPC bolts will actually get stuck on the boxes.

You can punish people with impunity from this position. Torso mounts on the 1V and 1M are compatible.

Or the 3M.

[Tim East]

Virlutris, on 04 April 2016 - 04:38 PM, said:

Or the 3M.

3V tested yet?

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Tim East, on 04 April 2016 - 05:02 PM, said:

3V tested yet?

No. But I think all Locusts with CT/ST mounts should be able to use it.

Weirdly enough, I managed to get a Kit Fox's left arm to fire PPCs through the same hole. But the right arm won't work for it.

Gah. Wish PGI would just skip to 3067 timeline. I want my Locust with double LPPCs D:<

[Tim East]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 04 April 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:

Gah. Wish PGI would just skip to 3067 timeline. I want my Locust with double LPPCs D:<

To say nothing of Locust IICs boating heavy lasers or something. Strap a LAMS on there too, because why not?

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Tim East, on 04 April 2016 - 07:57 PM, said:

To say nothing of Locust IICs boating heavy lasers or something. Strap a LAMS on there too, because why not?

All you need is a LCT-IIC with 6 SPL and a load of DHS. Keep it simple and killy.

[Tim East]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 04 April 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

All you need is a LCT-IIC with 6 SPL and a load of DHS. Keep it simple and killy.

Bah, the standard one comes with 9E slots. I guess ghost-heat could be a concern though. Maybe do 4 flamers 5 CSPL and go for cockpit shots?

[Fox With A Shotgun]

If you're going to do that, you need to make sure that you will definitely kill in one shot regardless of cockpit armour. Since a cockpit has 18 armour + 15 structure, you need at least 33 damage to guarantee a kill, assuming you don't miss a single point. 6 C-SPL, 3 flamers.

[3xnihilo]

Agh, I am finding the 3v very difficult to do well with since the range debuff. Anybody have any good suggestions for it? I am using the standard 2mpl, 2mg build.

[Tim East]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 01:41 AM, said:

If you're going to do that, you need to make sure that you will definitely kill in one shot regardless of cockpit armour. Since a cockpit has 18 armour + 15 structure, you need at least 33 damage to guarantee a kill, assuming you don't miss a single point. 6 C-SPL, 3 flamers.

Ah yeah, that's a good thought.

3xnihilo, on 05 April 2016 - 04:31 AM, said:

Agh, I am finding the 3v very difficult to do well with since the range debuff. Anybody have any good suggestions for it? I am using the standard 2mpl, 2mg build.

Does dropping it until it doesn't suck count as a good suggestion?
Otherwise, I suppose there is always the AC2 Joke-cust.

[3xnihilo]

Tim East, on 05 April 2016 - 07:27 AM, said:

Ah yeah, that's a good thought.

Does dropping it until it doesn't suck count as a good suggestion?
Otherwise, I suppose there is always the AC2 Joke-cust.

Aye, that is kind of what I thought

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Their blanket E-range nerf was bloody stupid, IMO. It killed the 3V.

With so little quirkage for a dearth of E-hardpoints, lack of tonnage for ballistics, and lack of durability quirks like the 1V, it's probably better to mothball the thing till they re-quirk it. No reason to use 2MPL/MG 3V when you can have the LPL 1V and win every trade and poke.

[3xnihilo]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Their blanket E-range nerf was bloody stupid, IMO. It killed the 3V.

With so little quirkage for a dearth of E-hardpoints, lack of tonnage for ballistics, and lack of durability quirks like the 1V, it's probably better to mothball the thing till they re-quirk it. No reason to use 2MPL/MG 3V when you can have the LPL 1V and win every trade and poke.

We need a representative at PGI. "NO NERFENING WITH OUT REPRESENTATION!"

I do wonder sometimes why they take the time to change quirks on mechs that they aren't willing to take the time to understand why they have the quirks they do. And some things seem so obvious like a 5 e hardpoint locust should have better not worse energy quirks than a 6 e hardpoint locust. And hopefully different in some way to make them both unique. Oh well, what are you going to do?

[Virlutris]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Their blanket E-range nerf was bloody stupid, IMO. It killed the 3V.

With so little quirkage for a dearth of E-hardpoints, lack of tonnage for ballistics, and lack of durability quirks like the 1V, it's probably better to mothball the thing till they re-quirk it. No reason to use 2MPL/MG 3V when you can have the LPL 1V and win every trade and poke.

I'm leaving it for later too.

Russ mentioned some quirk love for some lights early in the last townhall. I'm hoping that means compensating for a few of those super nerfs, like the 3V's range. (Yes, I listened to the livestream. I was shovelling dirt, I wasn't doing much else )

Exception: I only drop the 3V in CW/FP, specifically when there's a ghost drop. It's free XP for it, and also lets me run super fast to the drop beacons.

Exception to the exception: Okay, I guess I wouldn't run it if I was attacking a closed base in Invasion mode, because too many turrets make for roasted Locust.

Edited by Virlutris, 05 April 2016 - 04:08 PM.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

I'm approaching T1 way too quickly for my liking. My plan to tank my PSR with leveling a DWF has backfired as it seems to murder the living daylights out of everything it so much as looks at, and it's actually climbing faster than before...

At this rate, I might have to go for one last Locusting binge before it becomes nearly impossible. :C

Edited by Fox With A Shotgun, 05 April 2016 - 04:27 PM.

[Virlutris]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

I'm approaching T1 way too quickly for my liking. My plan to tank my PSR with leveling a DWF has backfired as it seems to murder the living daylights out of everything it so much as looks at, and it's actually climbing faster than before...

At this rate, I might have to go for one last Locusting binge before it becomes nearly impossible. :C

If your PSR's going up either way, may as well have it go up while doing something you love

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Virlutris, on 05 April 2016 - 04:38 PM, said:

If your PSR's going up either way, may as well have it go up while doing something you love

Yup.

Also, one funny moment when playing the DWF. I loaded it up with as many JJs as it could fit, so this thing could actually jump. Quite high, mind you. Then I loaded it up with the biggest TCOMP I could find, two gauss, two PPC. Out comes HPG Manifold, and I decide to park it on the external wall. ECM ERLL raven comes with me, so I'm ECM'd -- and at that distance, I just look like another silver-gray brick on the top of the HPG wall.

Now. TComp Mk.VII gives +35% velocity to all projectiles. Gauss goes at 2km/s, +35% = 2.7km/s. Meaning it's essentially hitscan no matter the range. Four minutes in, all their lights are limping around with only one leg. And they were totally clueless as to where the gauss rounds were coming from.

Nobody expects the wall-standing DWF. I named it the Spanish Inquisition.

[Virlutris]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 04:49 PM, said:

Yup.

Also, one funny moment when playing the DWF. I loaded it up with as many JJs as it could fit, so this thing could actually jump. Quite high, mind you. Then I loaded it up with the biggest TCOMP I could find, two gauss, two PPC. Out comes HPG Manifold, and I decide to park it on the external wall. ECM ERLL raven comes with me, so I'm ECM'd -- and at that distance, I just look like another silver-gray brick on the top of the HPG wall.

Now. TComp Mk.VII gives +35% velocity to all projectiles. Gauss goes at 2km/s, +35% = 2.7km/s. Meaning it's essentially hitscan no matter the range. Four minutes in, all their lights are limping around with only one leg. And they were totally clueless as to where the gauss rounds were coming from.

Nobody expects the wall-standing DWF. I named it the Spanish Inquisition.

You know, that's a pretty pricey troll boat you got there.

Sounds fun

Does ...

Does it poptart, too? >.>

[Tim East]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

I'm approaching T1 way too quickly for my liking. My plan to tank my PSR with leveling a DWF has backfired as it seems to murder the living daylights out of everything it so much as looks at, and it's actually climbing faster than before...

At this rate, I might have to go for one last Locusting binge before it becomes nearly impossible. :C

If you want to tank PSR, Whaling was the wrong way to go. You need to do as low damage as possible while still having fun. Usually this means joke builds like 14 flamer Novas and stuff. Be forewarned that I haven't tested mine since the flamer nerf, but during the brief initial flamer change it used to put most people to 90% heat in about a second and do EXTREMELY poor damage. Still pretty good if you had a buddy along for the ride though.

Fox With A Shotgun, on 05 April 2016 - 04:49 PM, said:

Yup.

Also, one funny moment when playing the DWF. I loaded it up with as many JJs as it could fit, so this thing could actually jump. Quite high, mind you. Then I loaded it up with the biggest TCOMP I could find, two gauss, two PPC. Out comes HPG Manifold, and I decide to park it on the external wall. ECM ERLL raven comes with me, so I'm ECM'd -- and at that distance, I just look like another silver-gray brick on the top of the HPG wall.

Now. TComp Mk.VII gives +35% velocity to all projectiles. Gauss goes at 2km/s, +35% = 2.7km/s. Meaning it's essentially hitscan no matter the range. Four minutes in, all their lights are limping around with only one leg. And they were totally clueless as to where the gauss rounds were coming from.

Nobody expects the wall-standing DWF. I named it the Spanish Inquisition.

HAH! The Return of the Poptart. Not to be confused with Revenge of the Jedi.

[stealthraccoon]

3xnihilo, on 05 April 2016 - 04:31 AM, said:

Agh, I am finding the 3v very difficult to do well with since the range debuff. Anybody have any good suggestions for it? I am using the standard 2mpl, 2mg build.

I'm still partial to the MPL/MG build, but there is always the LPL or LL/MG style builds - quirks don't really support either better than the other, just for preference I guess (I always go dakka).

AC2 is just silly-fun, but if you live/win the assists are always high.

Edited by stealthraccoon, 05 April 2016 - 05:33 PM.