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#4481 IraqiWalker

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 03:23 PM

View Postno one, on 02 January 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Koniving has accepted the naked locust challenge.

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__5546072

Do we have any others with the conviction to scoff at certain death?

Oh, I would be honored to do that with him. Sadly, I have no PBs.

#4482 mad kat

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:03 AM

View PostPenwize, on 02 January 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

A while ago (maybe a year? Damn), the LCT-1M lost a lot of its desirability with the IS-wide range nerf. The thing used to have +50% energy range! When that dropped down to a pitiful +10%, I cried quietly and stripped my 1M of parts and engine, vowing that one day I'd find a way to redeem it. Two missile and two energy hardpoints on a 20-ton mech? Sure it's nimble but yech.



Mine has had 2xMl and 2xStreaks for yonks but was always 'meh'

Since the streak buff it's actually pretty good now. Not as good as my 4xsrm2 Locust mind.

#4483 Arkama

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 03:14 PM

Just had a really fun game with the PB.
It was down to one V. three on Forest Colony Assault and I managed to strip the weapons off the Stalker before leaving it to deal with a laser vomit Hunchback and a mixed build Shadow Cat. Dancing around the two of them I managed to strip the lasers off the SC leaving it with just an LRM15 in a close range brawl so I moved onto the HBK and almost tore off that huge RT before it finally managed to take me out.

We lost but it's always a blast when a Locust actually gets going. I wound up doing 700+ Dmg and got two kills.
I was using the standard 4 SPLs 2 MGs setup.
I'm tempted to reacquire there MG Locust now that we have the buffs.

#4484 Old-dirty B

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 05:14 PM

Yeah the PB and locust in general are sure a lot of fun. I have been piloting the locust for a few months now and enjoying every bit of it. Initially i moved to the locust to find the fastest and most mobile platform to mount my favorite weapon, the erppc. The 3m is best suited in that worked out better then expacted, actually pretty good. At that time i havent really bothered with the other variants other then quicky get these basiced, but just recently i decided to master these as well. First the PB which teached me how to close in and make the most of the spl's and mg's after that i moved to the 1E... wow did i underestimated the locust!!!
This thing is just a freaking assasin, it just wrecks faces... euh i mean backs lol.

I try to play it very spooky early game, going around to find my first target: anything goes but best served are big fat juicy lrm boating assaults ofc. I start with the guys at the back, stalking and closing in and from near cover i poke the back armor untill he responds - by the time ge has turned im gone (not really ofc) what i want is that he is going to check out the backfield. Once ive pulled him away from the main group hes mine like a piranha. If the target is big and slow he will never see me (unless i make a mistake). A light or medium i will dogfight or propably better said in for a joust. My preferred technique is to joust straight towards the target shoot him point black and once im past him / overshoot quickly turn in his back in the same direction the other is turning hoping to get in his back, if if was the wrong side i repeat the process. Once im on his tail i keep following hitting his back. Also the fake retreat works wonders, sudden disengagment dissapearing behind cover waiting where he goes to ambush again. The main principle i try to apply is to use the speed and the small size to minimize my exposure, constantly repositioning to be in the targets blind corner or on his feet where he cant look down. A small and speedy target is hard to track, the closer you get the harder tracking becomes - you want to be that little jack russel that bites the ankles or achilles and never lets go...

What a great little mech!






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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:03 PM

View PostB3R3ND, on 09 January 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Yeah the PB and locust in general are sure a lot of fun. I have been piloting the locust for a few months now and enjoying every bit of it. Initially i moved to the locust to find the fastest and most mobile platform to mount my favorite weapon, the erppc. The 3m is best suited in that worked out better then expacted, actually pretty good. At that time i havent really bothered with the other variants other then quicky get these basiced, but just recently i decided to master these as well. First the PB which teached me how to close in and make the most of the spl's and mg's after that i moved to the 1E... wow did i underestimated the locust!!!
This thing is just a freaking assasin, it just wrecks faces... euh i mean backs lol.

I try to play it very spooky early game, going around to find my first target: anything goes but best served are big fat juicy lrm boating assaults ofc. I start with the guys at the back, stalking and closing in and from near cover i poke the back armor untill he responds - by the time ge has turned im gone (not really ofc) what i want is that he is going to check out the backfield. Once ive pulled him away from the main group hes mine like a piranha. If the target is big and slow he will never see me (unless i make a mistake). A light or medium i will dogfight or propably better said in for a joust. My preferred technique is to joust straight towards the target shoot him point black and once im past him / overshoot quickly turn in his back in the same direction the other is turning hoping to get in his back, if if was the wrong side i repeat the process. Once im on his tail i keep following hitting his back. Also the fake retreat works wonders, sudden disengagment dissapearing behind cover waiting where he goes to ambush again. The main principle i try to apply is to use the speed and the small size to minimize my exposure, constantly repositioning to be in the targets blind corner or on his feet where he cant look down. A small and speedy target is hard to track, the closer you get the harder tracking becomes - you want to be that little jack russel that bites the ankles or achilles and never lets go...

What a great little mech!



if you like the ERPPC and have a PB might want to give the UL HOTH Cruiser a try

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...274c92d6aa2533c

best used on a fully elited mech so teh xl170 don't slow you down too much.

add cool down and range. hill climb, sensor range, and zoom. get behind the reds and rive them to distraction. the ever popular target a LRM boat wait for them to start taking missiles and then remove the RCT works wonders.

#4486 Old-dirty B

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:04 AM

Thanks, i have been using my PIRATES' BANE in a similar way but with a XL190 instead (i prefer speed over armor).

But in the end, as a platform for erppc i prefer the LCT-3M (25% cool down quirk and -5% heat gen) over any other locust, even the PB. The ECM of the PB is nice but not essential.

The LCT-1E that i have been using lately is on a totally different level though, thats just a murder machine. The 6x SPL build is in my opinion the epitome of the locust line-up. The speed, size and the weapon characteristics are totally in sync.

Although i really dig the ppc's (i can shoot these all day long) and the SPL's or lazers in general are not really exiting, its the way i can play the 1E makes that makes it a totally different story. Its very rewarding to hunt, stalk, ambush prey, play mind games and outplay the enemy. I have literally seen enemies just give up and accept destruction by turning their back on me and start walking away because they couldn't keep up and get me in their sights.

Edited by B3R3ND, 11 January 2017 - 12:09 AM.


#4487 Thor Sten

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 03:32 PM

Interesting game today. Perhaps, it wasn't exactly a good game, but a damn nice brawl...
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Last few seconds was a one legged Locust vs. a cored Marauder2c and the Blackjack I chased. Ok, we lost 11-12 but hey, guess who made Tier 1:

Spoiler

Edited by Thor Sten, 13 January 2017 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2017 - 11:26 PM

Speaking of interesting games, this is unrelated, but was watching a match where the enemy was down to an LRM Archer and a cored Shadow Cat versus a Hellbringer that was also cored. The Archer legitimately stopped, turned and started wiggling it's butt in the Bringers face while the Cat lined up a kill shot. The Archer went down and the next moment the Hellbringer took two Large Pulses to the chest and went down. Had to give the Archer some mad props for sacrificing himself for the win.

I personally am loving the Locust-1V. It's got a LL and four machine guns and is a blast to play. Gets up to a 62% cooldown on it's LL so It . Been running it as a heavy mech supporter and it does wonders. The heavy tanks the damage while the little Locust moves around them and tears them apart.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cf14574b5c92ae3

Edited by Arkama, 13 January 2017 - 11:39 PM.


#4489 Leone

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 12:27 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 05 January 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Oh, I would be honored to do that with him. Sadly, I have no PBs.

Honestly I had to pull off the ECM to pass that challenge, you could probably hack in a 1E with the engine upgrade and megre armour. You just need the three small lasers and the Extended Range Particle Projection Cannon.

Edit: Wait... That'd be perfect for this thread,

View PostLeone, on 11 January 2017 - 02:15 AM, said:


Just posting here for no one in particular.

S rank Locust piloting.
http://imgur.com/a/yAWoq

Seriously though, the extra engine beats out the ECM hand actuators down.

~Leone.

~Leone.

Edited by Leone, 14 January 2017 - 12:29 AM.


#4490 Arkama

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 01:24 PM

Had a match where afterwards one of the opponents asked how to equip RAID. I felt honored.Posted Image

It's always surprising how well the 1V works for suppressing formations and dragging them out of the actual fight. We were playing Domination on Tourmaline Desert and I got the entire heavy/assault lance stuck in a gully well away from the beacon while I kept coming at them from different directions before disappearing back into cover.The rest of our team cleaned up their unprotected lights and mediums and then we finished off the Assault Lance. Wound up with four kills in the little bug.

I run one Large Laser and three Machine Guns with a ton of ammo. I'd try the Large Pulse, but I don't have the skill unlocked fully yet and I like having some Machine Guns to make their screens flash red.

#4491 Gogo and the crazy 88

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 03:04 PM

A bit of lolcust trolling for you... https://youtu.be/JFw5zwpj6qI


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Posted 27 February 2017 - 08:28 PM

View PostGogo and the crazy 88, on 27 February 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

A bit of lolcust trolling for you... https://youtu.be/JFw5zwpj6qI

If I'm on there, I will be very sad.

#4493 Donatello Jones

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:59 PM

I can't believe how the little Locust has become a giant. *sniffle*

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:18 PM

View PostDonatello Jones, on 08 March 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

I can't believe how the little Locust has become a giant. *sniffle*

She always was an apex predator. It just took people a while to realize that we're not crazy. THEY'RE THE CRAZY ONES. SPEED SPEED SPEEEEEEED!!!

#4495 Donatello Jones

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:23 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 08 March 2017 - 08:18 PM, said:

She always was an apex predator. It just took people a while to realize that we're not crazy. THEY'RE THE CRAZY ONES. SPEED SPEED SPEEEEEEED!!!


YES!

This seems appropriate now... https://m.youtube.co...h?v=7edeOEuXdMU

Was referring to the evil laugh... can't take myself seriously.

Edited by Donatello Jones, 09 March 2017 - 01:12 PM.


#4496 Old-dirty B

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:31 AM

The locust has perhaps risen in popularity but it still remains underrated and underestimated...

Too many pilots see the locust as an easy kill and cannot resist the temptation of that delicious cookie, they will do almost anything to get just that. They will follow the locust, sometimes all across the map, unaware to fall into an ambush set. Sometimes half of the enemy team goes into high pursuit while the rest is slaughtered by the locust friends. Some will follow the locust on their own... Posted Image

The thing that i enjoy the most about piloting the locust is that it's never really clear who's at risk... its like a jekyll and hyde thing. The locust is an easy victim and a ferocious killer at the same time and it very much depends on the pilots skill and of its enemies it is facing that determine what "personality" it will be that round...

Btw, the speed of the locust is great, it allows you to operate solo behind enemy lines, to reposition, to retreat, to flank and so on. But its the acceleration and deceleration of this chassis that i value most in combat, it makes the locust very unpredictable, it allows you to dodge projectiles, to spread damage while keeping your weapons on target, to remain in the enemies blind-spot and so on...

Edited by B3R3ND, 09 March 2017 - 06:43 AM.


#4497 Donatello Jones

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:42 PM

My first run in the PB in over a year was abysmal. 91 damage. Nothing else.

They are super fun to play but I am much better in a Firestarter but i'm not great in them... :P

Edited by Donatello Jones, 09 March 2017 - 04:40 PM.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:07 PM

View PostDonatello Jones, on 09 March 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

My first run in the PB in over a year was abysmal. 91 damage. Nothing else.

They are super fun to play but I am much better in a Firestarter but i'm not great in them... Posted Image

Wait, did you think you were going to hop into one after a year long hiatus, and not have a few dozen bad matches?

The locust always was, and will be, a baptism by fire mech.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:39 AM

View PostDonatello Jones, on 09 March 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

My first run in the PB in over a year was abysmal. 91 damage. Nothing else.

They are super fun to play but I am much better in a Firestarter but i'm not great in them... :P

View PostIraqiWalker, on 09 March 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

Wait, did you think you were going to hop into one after a year long hiatus, and not have a few dozen bad matches?

The locust always was, and will be, a baptism by fire mech.


Pretty common for me after a long Locusting layoff.

in fact, I suspect it's going to be like this when I begin re-working Locusts at some point after the Grind Skill Tree patch.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:01 AM

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just a normal round 4 me ..

i worry what will happen to my bane after the tree change in a few weeks





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