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#41 Vox Scorpus

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:49 PM

STOP THE NERF STOP THE NERF STOP THE NERF

Weapons were mostly balanced awhile ago. Sure you're not gonna get a perfect balance because this game cannot be played like Classic Battletech. That doesn't mean then that the devs should adjust for every weapon that people complain about!

I did 919 damage (then 909 so not cuz of luck) with an Orion running 2 LB10x and a large laser. Wanna nerf those too now?

Let's leave the weapons alone.

Some of it isn't just luck either remember. A player might get really good at using AC2 or maybe lasers and they'll hit more and do more damage than your average person. Doesn't mean they should be penalized for that.

#42 xMEPHISTOx

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:10 PM

View PostVox Scorpus, on 17 January 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

STOP THE NERF STOP THE NERF STOP THE NERF

Weapons were mostly balanced awhile ago.


I still think they are for the most part. Complaints would be more deserved if aimed at lack of meaningful content, primarily CW's.
Weapons balancing and adjustments are a constant in these types of games, meaningful content however is not and needs to be introduced. Put the nerfs and weapons adjustments on the back burner as well as new paid mechs and maps until the things are most needed are introduced.

#43 Quick n Fast

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:27 AM

:wub: sssshhhhhhh... if you guys keep disagreeing with the OP he'll make another nerf AC2/5 thread :D.. I don't wanna see 4posts in 3days on the same topic on the front page :unsure:

Edited by Kahnawake MechMaster Prime, 18 January 2014 - 07:28 AM.


#44 Too Much Love

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:26 AM

Nerf PPC, AC20, LRM, AC5, AC2, LL,LPL, SRM, SSRM, ML, everything!

Buff noobs and crabs! You surely have the right to win after 30 played matches in trial mech against premade veterans. Who wants to learn how to play? Its more fun to complain at the forum!

#45 Sandpit

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 10:29 AM

View PostKahnawake MechMaster Prime, on 18 January 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:

:D sssshhhhhhh... if you guys keep disagreeing with the OP he'll make another nerf AC2/5 thread :P.. I don't wanna see 4posts in 3days on the same topic on the front page :)

Like that's going to stop them?

#46 Specops12

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

If you really want to nerf them impose the minimum ranges they have in tabletop, but honestly only the ac2 needs a nerf.

#47 Mcgral18

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

View PostSpecops12, on 18 January 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

If you really want to nerf them impose the minimum ranges they have in tabletop, but honestly only the ac2 needs a nerf.


Pinpoint convergence needs a nerf.

#48 FupDup

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 08:58 PM

View PostSpecops12, on 18 January 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

...but honestly only the ac2 needs a nerf.



#49 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 12:20 AM

I've seen a spider do 1200 damage with 2 MPLs. Where is the nerfhammer???
Skill is OP and should apparently be nerfed. Thats why high ELO game search times are 20-30 mins.

#50 Alex Warden

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 02:37 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 16 January 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

It is only natural, since AC20/10 are nerfed. Next time, someone will QQ about UAC5s. Ballistics at its current state is not very balanced.


hm... i wouldn´t say nerfed, but adjusted... still doing fine with an ac20/ac10 combo, and btw@ILMECHWARRIOR: 800 damage is an ammount that a pure damage build SHOULD do...

#51 fandre

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:07 AM

It is sad to see another thread for CottonWarriorOnline.

Edited by fandre, 21 January 2014 - 03:07 AM.


#52 EvilCow

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:18 AM

I see jenners and ravens doing scores in the 1200, this means that ballistic should be improved in order to compete.

#53 John MatriX82

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:23 AM

Stop nerfing everything. ACs are used mostly now, because ANYTHING ELSE AROUND HAS BEEN NERFED TO THE GROUND.

Gr nerfed, all energy weapons and missiles nerfed due to ghost heat, SRMs nerfed removing splash/lowering their damage/splattering damage everywhere due to the dull tube-like pattern, pulse lasers have never been worth their weight/heat.

Don't call for nerfs.. nerf them, we'll all go back to PPC and GR again. and then another nerf cycle will appear.

The game needs sized hardpoints. Full stop. Do that and magically all weapons will be rebalanced correctly, ghost heat will disappear, lrm and srm rains will be avoided and so on.

#54 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 04:39 AM

I go away for 3 days and this is still a front page thread?

You need me, you really really need me! :lol:

#55 gasmaskcowboy

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 12:38 AM

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 12:39 AM

Nerf all things! Make everything a mirror of one another only different in name! Also, your post is painful to read.

Edited by lsp, 04 March 2014 - 12:41 AM.


#57 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:55 AM

View PostIL MECHWARRIOR, on 16 January 2014 - 02:28 AM, said:

what the (), in my jm6-s armeod with 4 mdlaser and 3 ac 5 with 240 ammo and xl 265 i just did 5 kills and 1400 damage!!!!!!!!



what the()i did 1400 damage with ac 5 in a 65 tons!!!!! this is overpowered!!!!!! nerf ac 5 now!!!!!!

ac 2 ac 5 and ultra ac 5 are overpowered compared to gauss, in order to understand that you must compare builds

DUAL GAUSS JAGERMECH VS 3 AC 5 + 4 MDLAS JAGER

i choose the ac sniper version

2 GAUSS + 4 MDLASER CATAPHRACT 3D VS 3 ULTRA AC 5 + 3 MDLASER MUROMETS

i choose the ac version

and..........just for a second............consider how much damage without overheating a Victor 9b with 3 ac 2, 825 ammo and 19 double heat sinks can do

12 damage each second without overheating for at least 15 seconds, at 720 meters and with 2000 rangE!!!!!

AC 5 AND UAC5 HEAT FROM 1 TO 2

AC5 AND UAC5 RELOAD FROM 1.5 TO 2.0

AC 2 RELOAD FROM 0.52 TO 0.75

AC 2 SPEED FROM 2000 TO 1500


otherwise the gauss is useless



**** 1400 damage with 3 ac 5 boat is silly

Look at the DpS numbers for your ACs Il. You have multiple AC20s. All our ACs o roughly the same damage in 5 seconds. That is the Measure of what AC class you have. Right now we have 4 AC20s.

#58 Nehkrosis

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:58 AM

I believe the OP was defeated guys.

#59 Thorqemada

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:27 AM

I was spectating an Atlas running (snailing) into an enemy 3x Gauss CTF and it got eaten.
If your build is inasane enough and your Team/Match Luck supports it many things work.
A single Gauss on the other hand is somewhat lacking bcs it now has an insane cooldown (cooldown + charge) compared to ACs and does not deliver the DPS.
That does not matter if your Alpha is big enough to devastate but matters for single Weapon configs that rely on a higher firing frequency.

Edited by Thorqemada, 04 March 2014 - 04:28 AM.


#60 Curccu

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 05:18 AM

This thread is still alive... ;)





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