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[Jam the Bam]

Firestarter maybe?

Father Tork, on 21 January 2014 - 05:34 AM, said:

The Urban mech is impossible with their current engine weight set up, as the default engine would weigh a negative amount of tonnage...

Russ was quoted as saying the mech will be 'controversial', possibly this is why? Design change to allow the mech to work?

[John MatriX82]

anubis969, on 21 January 2014 - 03:30 AM, said:

I'd be very surprised to see two chassis' being released on the same day. From a business stand point it wouldn't make much sense unless they believe that everyone that wants a Griffin brought the saber package.

Well a lot of time ago they stated that they aimed @ releasing two mechs per month, this was supposed to be achieved during the Phoenix c-bill variant releases, but it didn't happened.

Until now they've "acquired" the push of a new chassis through an hero mech, release MC variants the following week (usually on friday, evening, when the weekend sales go on) and enable c-bill variants after two weeks from the hero release.

So yes, we'll be getting a new light IS chassis AND the Griffin on February.

Technically speaking, this means that we may get 4 more IS mechs (the aforementioned light in Feb, and three more in March-April-May, with March seeing also the Wolvie for c-bills) before the Clan release.

[SpiralFace]

I would love it to be the urban mech, even with a low engine cap.

The big thing I keep going back to is their plans for "weight limits"

Right now, mech roles are compared to everything over the wide tonnage range.

An urban mech by design is a jumping weapon platform. So naturally, its going to be compared to other weapon platforms like the CAT's, Jagers, Victors, and Highlanders. So naturally, its a pretty poor substitue for those mechs.

What its got going for it is that its a weapon platform that's 30 tons, and will more then likely be a physically smaller target to hit.

When weight limits come in, this could lead to some wanting to "play their roles" a bit more. As some mechs get more "bang for their buck" then mechs that go for a more generalized approch. Take for example a HBK 4H with an AC 20, and 5 ML's, as opposed to a Shadow hawk with an AC 20 and two ML's. The shadow hawks is precieved as a better brawler because of its better armor distribution, faster engines, and JJ manuverability,but the HBK has it beat in weapon loadouts, AND its 5 tons lighter.

What if you want to have an escort for your assault mechs that you also want to treat as a weapon platform?

I will fully admit that in a game without weight restrictions, the Urban Mech is a bad call because if you wanted a weapon platform, you would just take a heavy mech. But once weight restrictions come in, I can find a legitimate case for wanting to bring the Urbie's out.

If anything to get a bit more variety out of the light chassis so they aren't just all "speedy alpha strikers."

[Sephlock]

Wait, a previously unannounced light? So it isn't the flea...

[Sephlock]

Btw I hope all of you guys realize that weight limits will also have the side effect of making artillery strikes all the more awesome (as will clan mechs, since you can't adjust the armor values).

I'm just saying. if they reinstate R&R, artillery striking enemy Daishis should be a war crime.

[Mystere]

Sephlock, on 21 January 2014 - 07:44 AM, said:

Btw I hope all of you guys realize that weight limits will also have the side effect of making artillery strikes all the more awesome (as will clan mechs, since you can't adjust the armor values).

I'm just saying. if they reinstate R&R, artillery striking enemy Daishis should be a war crime.

[Ngamok]

John MatriX82, on 21 January 2014 - 02:14 AM, said:

I think @ 4th we get the hero of a new light chassis. MC versions enabled enabled @ 11. 18th Feb for the cbill variants, and then we also get the Wolvie or the Griffin for cbills.

The Sabre mechs will be February and March so they will be releasing two mechs a month maybe? That would actually be great. Guessing they didn't get many Sabre mechs sold as they did Phoenix mechs because of them being only 2 more mediums. I would expect them to follow their Highlander schedule (which was pretty popular) from here on out as mentioned earlier in the thread. At least I hope so.

[Trauglodyte]

I'm just trying to figure out what Light would be considered controversial? The Flea has already been announced and that isn't really all that game changing, outside of releasing MASC. Seriously, what Light would get people all up in arms? Maybe they decided to go with their own art for the Harmony Gold mechs?

[Sephlock]

Trauglodyte, on 21 January 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

I'm just trying to figure out what Light would be considered controversial? The Flea has already been announced and that isn't really all that game changing, outside of releasing MASC. Seriously, what Light would get people all up in arms? Maybe they decided to go with their own art for the Harmony Gold mechs?

Urbanmech or Stinger.

[John MatriX82]

Ngamok, on 21 January 2014 - 07:56 AM, said:

The Sabre mechs will be February and March so they will be releasing two mechs a month maybe? That would actually be great. Guessing they didn't get many Sabre mechs sold as they did Phoenix mechs because of them being only 2 more mediums. I would expect them to follow their Highlander schedule (which was pretty popular) from here on out as mentioned earlier in the thread. At least I hope so.

Maybe it's only for this month, but nevertheless, we should get something for April and May anyway, given that the Clans will be released in June. This meant at least two more IS mechs, without the Flea as the devs stated a lot of times that MASC is way far in the future.

So hopefully there will be two bi-monthly releases (Griffin and the "controversial" light the next month, Wolvie and another IS mech in March), with further two releases for April and May, this time probably with only one mech at a time.

Trauglodyte, on 21 January 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

I'm just trying to figure out what Light would be considered controversial? The Flea has already been announced and that isn't really all that game changing, outside of releasing MASC. Seriously, what Light would get people all up in arms? Maybe they decided to go with their own art for the Harmony Gold mechs?

Controversial.. the Urbie is certainly controversial

As they stated a lot of time we'll see the Flea who knows when, it looks to be post Clan intro I think.

[Sephlock]

I think the Harmony Gold thing is unlikely though. But who knows?

[Kyynele]

anubis969, on 21 January 2014 - 03:30 AM, said:

That would fit their established pattern but the trouble is that the Griffin is scheduled to come out on the 18th.

I'd be very surprised to see two chassis' being released on the same day. From a business stand point it wouldn't make much sense unless they believe that everyone that wants a Griffin brought the saber package.

That is true, I remembered that the release dates for wolverine and griffin were speculation, but you are correct, they are officially scheduled for February and March.

Curious to see how they handle this, will there indeed be an extra content patch somewhere. Pushing back the saber mechs c-bill release or making people play a hero mech for over 2 months without being able to master it don't sound like great options.

I'd still like to see some evidence about this mech being a light. I'm pretty sure I saw Russ answer someone in Twitter around when Locust came out that the next light would be released "spring 2014" and at least around here it's still pretty much winter. I wouldn't mind being wrong about this, too.

[anubis969]

John MatriX82, on 21 January 2014 - 05:49 AM, said:

Well a lot of time ago they stated that they aimed @ releasing two mechs per month, this was supposed to be achieved during the Phoenix c-bill variant releases, but it didn't happened.

Until now they've "acquired" the push of a new chassis through an hero mech, release MC variants the following week (usually on friday, evening, when the weekend sales go on) and enable c-bill variants after two weeks from the hero release.

So yes, we'll be getting a new light IS chassis AND the Griffin on February.

Technically speaking, this means that we may get 4 more IS mechs (the aforementioned light in Feb, and three more in March-April-May, with March seeing also the Wolvie for c-bills) before the Clan release.

Well let's look at the facts:

- Since the official launch PGI has released one hero 'mech and one set of c-bill 'mechs per month.
- Russ says that there will be two patches in February.
- Russ says that we will be getting a new hero 'mech on the 4th.
- Russ says that it will be a new chassis.
- Russ says that the new hero 'mech won't be the Panther.
- Brain said in a past interview that one of the upcoming new 'mechs will be a light 'mech, humanoid and it will be controversial.
- The Griffin's standard variants will be released for c-bill purchase on the 18th.

It goes without saying that the information from PGI isn't necessarily correct. For example Russ' claim that it wouldn't be the Panther could be a deliberate lie to throw people off the scent. Plus just because they have been releasing only one hero and one set of c-bill 'mechs up to this point doesn't mean they have to stick to that, it's just that I'd be surprised if they broke that pattern that's all.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see . Personally I'm hoping for either the Firestarter or the Javelin.

Edited by anubis969, 21 January 2014 - 08:26 AM.

[Trauglodyte]

OK, well looking at the mechs, I can see the following being possible:

Hermes (uber fast non-JJ Spider; comes stock at 151kph)
Javelin (non-JJ missile Spider; see the Oxide)
Hussar (uber fast non-JJ Spider; comes stock at 151kph and designed to be an actual sniper)
Firestarter (energy/ballistic Jenner)
Wolfhound (non-JJ all energy Jenner)

Honestly, the only two that seem controversial there are the Hermes and the Hussar. You could include the Hollander but it doesn't have enough variants. Then again, that might be what makes it controversial.

[Ngamok]

Well 2 weeks to speculate !! The best part I guess to see who is right.

[Vidarok]

Firestarter! PLEASE!

[Ngamok]

Well at least this thread will be hater free I guess. Except for the Urbie haters.

Edited by Ngamok, 21 January 2014 - 08:48 AM.

[Fallenbourne]

Something controversial should be a mech with something totally new on it. Just like when they finally introduced ECM into the game and the nerd raging went off the charts. I'm gonna guess it will be a mech with MASC, light/heavy gauss rifle, heavy lasers, C3, or something similar. Best case scenario for me is if they introduce melee. I can finally get my Axman.

Just prepare for the nerd raging again.

[John MatriX82]

Sephlock, on 21 January 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

I think the Harmony Gold thing is unlikely though. But who knows?

They stated in the first Command chair vblog that HG stuff is basically unreachable. One could hope that they are instead working on it without creating any hype and splat it on our faces somewhere in the future xD

[Dauphni]

Obviously, it's the Marauder, except slimmed down to 35 tons. Still as big and slow as the 75 ton version though.