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[D A T A]

this tournment awards the following players:

the ones that abuse more of air and arty strikes

the ones that play 10 hours a day

the ones that do nothing for the Whole game and just kill steal at the end

I HAD TO PLAY 6 HOURS A DAY TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING, and i arrived 9 in the heavy class without a single air strike, even if all the Others do half of theirs score with the air strike WIN BUTTON.............as soon as i went to sleep and i woke up today i found myself 18..............just because some players can play 12 hours a day and i can not

YOUR RULES SUCK




1) 15 points per kill, not 20, damage done /10, not /15

2) if you have air or arty strike module, the game is not valid

3) it calculates OLY YOUR FIRST 60 GAMES, and in them best 10, not one more, otherwise it is obvious that if i play 300 games i will have more percentage to do a good game

Edited by IL MECHWARRIOR, 02 March 2014 - 01:20 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

I agree with what you say other than the strikes. Strikes are part of the game.

[Willard Phule]

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

this tournment awards the following players:

the ones that abuse more of air and arty strikes

That's "use" more air and arty strikes...not "abuse." If I choose to invest cbills or MC to bring a little something that helps me out, it's my choice.

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

the ones that play 10 hours a day

Gotta agree with you there...people that invest more time in something and eventually end up better than I am shouldn't win anything, right? They should just give me the prize because I want it. I shouldn't have to work for it.

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

the ones that do nothing for the Whole game and just kill steal at the end

Yeah, I hate those light and medium pilots. They're always doing that. Maybe we should ask PGI to nerf lights and mediums so they can't do any damage at all...then we won't have to worry about them stealing kills.

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

I HAD TO PLAY 6 HOURS A DAY TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING, and i arrived 9 in the heavy class without a single air strike, even if all the Others do half of theirs score with the air strike WIN BUTTON.............as soon as i went to sleep and i woke up today i found myself 18..............just because some players can play 12 hours a day and i can not

Guess you have to take another look at your priorities, I guess. What's more important? Having a job so you can take care of yourself and/or family, or being able to win an MW:O tournament. I hope it's the former, but if it's not...well. Everyone has their priorities. Good luck.

[Corvus Antaka]

Dont go for top 10. My wife would leave me if i played the tourney all weekend for 12 hours a day.

Just play your matches, enjoy the weekend

Much more fun this way, and you get an idea from your placement over just playing 10-20 matches vs the guys farming those epic games of where you stand.

Hopefully the game in the future will reward teamplay better and objective based missions and the scoring system is improved so we see actual gameplay happen to win matches, not just to farm kills.

even on conquest, no one takes any bases, it's a slugfest.

Fix the gamemodes and pay please PGI.

[Lightfoot]

I didn't find the Opt In button on my Challenges page so I thought it was automatic opt in. Oh well. I would just play 10 good games and call it done. No need to do more than that unless you want too so it's basically good for everyone.

[Klaus]

1) It's just the same bullshit as they did how many times before? Using the word "tournament" in any of these events is misleading seeing as that brings with it the connotation that everyone in the whole game is a competitor. When I think of a "tournament", I think of fixed matches and clear brackets, not farming kills.

2) Air strikes and arty strikes are just getting kinda lame now a days. Maybe it's just me, but after getting hit with (I'm not lying here) 6 of them in one game and still living, I think they should be limited in some fashion. I feel like they should require you to have the currently useless command console equipped, be limited to only using one of them instead of both, or only be allowed to be equipped on certain mechs. They're just too effective in mass numbers when coupled with JJs against a slow assault mech for the extremely low risk in using.

3) The "10 hours a day" argument is just part of their design to get people to play their game all weekend long. I don't really mind that for an "event", but it still doesn't fit in line with the idea of a "tournament".

4) I completely agree. I've had the same experience every time they've had one of these "tournaments". Doing 700~800 even 900 damage only to get 1 kill while you have some jerk off in an otherwise useless mech picking up 5 or 6 kills running by them with medium lasers. When the enemy team is broken, it's just a scramble for kills at that point. Or better yet, the teammates who will block your shots on purpose to try and KS you. The game needs way more emphasis on team play rather than the killing shot.

Edited by Klaus, 02 March 2014 - 07:26 AM.

[Ghogiel]

I think it should only count the top 10 games out of the first 50 for that mech/weight class or something. The grind part of these tourneys are pretty dumb really.

[PhoenixFire55]

Rules always sucked, but what PGI wants is not fair competition or team gameplay. What PGI wants is people playing 18-20 hours a day for that 5$ ish top prize (funny eh?), SOLO and using all consumables they can because, yes, they cost moneys. Even when bought with c-bills, its still c-bills you grind for, spending your time, c-bills you could have spent on smth else. Consumables are pure p2w right now. Servers busy, people playing, money flowing, groups are f***ed. Ideal.

On the note of artillery/airstrike, it should be limited to command console mechs only. I agree that arty/air is part of the game, but currently it is abused beyond belief and serves an entirely different purpose. For example, in conquest on Crimson, a light mech caps a base only to have artillery land on him, launched by another light from 1000m away across the water without targeting, just by looking at cap meters. Is this why arty/air has been added to the game? Really?

[IronChance]

It's not perfect, but it'll do for now. As others have said, just set a personal goal for yourself. Put together 10 matches you can be proud of and then relax and enjoy the weekend. You have to remember that thousands of people have opted in to the tournament, so if after you've got 10 good matches in and you find you're in the top one or two hundred players, that means you're pretty good at the game. The people who can afford to spend all that time to get 10 matches of 5 or 6 kill/6 or 7 assist/1,000+ damage rounds are still probably better than you, but not at all as much as what the leaderboard would suggest.

Again, it's not perfect but it'll do for now... until we get actual 1v1 or 4v4 or 12v12 tournaments and get the hell out of the pug queue. April 29th, baby!

Hopefully.

[FupDup]

Mediums vs the World? More like Steiner Scout Lances vs the World.

[NKAc Street]

Why frustrate yourself over a contest that is actually irrelevant. Kill steal and hide behind other players as your meat shield to pad your stats Then the epic matches where you've tanked your elo and get a bunch of points playing against a bad team. LOL.

It's all about how much time you have to play and how you can use your team for your own gain, and the luck of the ELO draw not an actual measure of skill. So play like you normally do and enjoy yourself.

[Bagheera]

In a world where a mech must have a Command Console installed it call off board artillery ....



Oh, wait, nevermind.

[Varent]

http://i232.photobuc...ing/cat-lol.jpg That is all.

[Screech]

So the guy winning in 2 separate categories is playing 20 hours a day?

Haters gonna hate.

[jper4]

i just did my usual thing. play a lot friday and a decent amount saturday (may have played 7 hours between the two days, maybe 8) and i'm done since my schedule won;t give me much time to play if at all sun/mon/tues anyway just to see how high i can get in the early stages.

was 3rd in the "hey the scores are all messed up!" earliest stages. dropped to 15th when they got reset, played a couple more matches and got to 12th. went to bed woke up in 45th, played some,got to 33rd and called it a tourney. now i'm sitting at 64th. will see if i can scrape into the top 100 by the end- probably not. aggrivating part was i had so many similar matches 0-2 kills, 4-7 assists, 300-500 dmg so i ended up playing longer than planned because i "knew" that 5 kill/4assist/700dmg match was going to happen at any match now and shoot me into the top 10.

i hit 4 kills once, 3 kills once and all the rest were 2 or less.

i don;t expect to place in any of these barring 95% of the players not being able to access the game the entire time of the tourney so i won't put in the crazy hours for it other than the first day. i will try to shoot for the top 100 and that's good enough.

[Krinkov]

You do realize these "tournaments" are designed for PGI to gain metrics on the player base right? They are rolling out a big change to how teams are organized next month. Last week they gave out free mediums to anyone that played for the weekend. Now they are getting everyone to play those mediums so that people will have their proper medium Elo sorted out before the new 3/3/3/3 teams that will be required soon.

[Bront]

Let's see those complaints...

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

the ones that abuse more of air and arty strikes

Anyone who wants to is welcome to use them. Honestly, a tourny like this might show PGI how annoyingly overpowered they are at the moment, but honestly, even if they weren't, the extra damage might be popular in a tournament where, you know, damage is one of the scored extras.

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

the ones that play 10 hours a day

Well, the point of just about any event is to get people to play, as the more they play, the more likely they are to pay at some point. This is a business.

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 02 March 2014 - 01:19 AM, said:

the ones that do nothing for the Whole game and just kill steal at the end

Since damage is counted, kill stealing will only get you so far, and if you're waiting till the end, you're missing out on early kills and damage, and possibly winning the match (which is worth a lot).

Is the scoring perfect? no, far from it. Damage isn't the only indicator of success, and sometimes a high damage number doesn't mean it was useful (blowing a shield arm off for example is hardly the same as a head shot, yet the shield arm likely took more "damage"). Also, the lack of teams (which does prevent cheating, so is a good idea) doesn't promote the best gameplay. But the prizes aren't that big, it didn't cost you anything to enter, and you're welcome to ignore it if you want.

Why not offer a "team" tourny, for 2, 3, and 4 mans. Use a similar scoring system but use it for the entire group. Suddenly you'd be rewarded for setting up a kill for a lancemate, it wouldn't be kill stealing since you all get credit for it, and you could in theory still award individual prizes by allowing the best 10 scores per person, even though they're tallied as a team (give away, say, 20, 30, and 40 prizes for the 2, 3, and 4 man).

[FactorlanP]

Really, the only bad thing about this Tournament style is that there is a small subset of players who will believe that their ability to play 18 hours a day for several days means that they are "l33t" and that their opinions are more important than anyone elses.

Beyond that, these things are harmless and easily ignored by folks like me who aren't interested.

[R Razor]

Save your breath Bront.......the guy complaining is the same guy that runs almost exclusively in pop-tart, pinpoint damage meta junk...........the same guy that gets butthurt if anyone complains about it too.

[Bront]

FactorlanP, on 02 March 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

Really, the only bad thing about this Tournament style is that there is a small subset of players who will believe that their ability to play 18 hours a day for several days means that they are "l33t" and that their opinions are more important than anyone elses.

Beyond that, these things are harmless and easily ignored by folks like me who aren't interested.

Even more fun when they don't win the Tourny

R Razor, on 02 March 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

Save your breath Bront.......the guy complaining is the same guy that runs almost exclusively in pop-tart, pinpoint damage meta junk...........the same guy that gets butthurt if anyone complains about it too.

Aww, but I like poking the trolls.