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#1 daehawk

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:30 PM

Cause it seems broken ...BAD. I have a Thunderbolt 9S with TWO AMS and missiles just keep slamming me left and right. Just now I got hit from 2 missile salvos and simply exploded...and I have no explodable ammo or Xl engine..wtf.

#2 Screech

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:31 PM

I love ham.

#3 Loc Nar

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:32 PM

No, it's still as delicious as ever.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:33 PM

As for your post AMS, does alot against chain fired LRMs but seems to do very little against big volleys.

And as for ham I had some yesterday and it seemed fine.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:33 PM

Hmmmm Ham...

#6 Pyrrho

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

If you have AMS, and you loaded ammo for it, you have exploding ammo in your 'mech. Also, keep in mind that AMS doesn't negate incoming fire, it shoots down a percentage of incoming fire. With 2 AMS units equipped you are twice as effective, but still not enough so to stop more than 10-15 missiles per salvo.

#7 Ghengis Cohen

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

Agreed. AMS seems no more effective with dual AMS then it did with single. The LRM buff was a bit much if you ask me.

#8 Mcgral18

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:55 PM

View PostPyrrho, on 21 April 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

If you have AMS, and you loaded ammo for it, you have exploding ammo in your 'mech. Also, keep in mind that AMS doesn't negate incoming fire, it shoots down a percentage of incoming fire. With 2 AMS units equipped you are twice as effective, but still not enough so to stop more than 10-15 missiles per salvo.


AMS ammo is only 20 damage, same as a gauss rifle, but 10% just like other ballistic ammo.

Each AMS takes down 6 or so missiles directed towards you, so you're only taking out at least 10. If an LRM50 volley hits you, you're still taking 44 damage.

#9 Roadbeer

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:06 PM

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#10 Nothing Whatsoever

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:11 PM

I have to say I like your sig. Fusistance is retile...



AMS grouped together can thin out salvos though.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:17 PM

Bacon>Ham.

#12 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:43 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 21 April 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:


AMS ammo is only 20 damage, same as a gauss rifle, but 10% just like other ballistic ammo.


Ammo explosion damage is based on rounds remaining multiplied by damage per round. I could be wrong, but I believe that at 1000 rounds per ton, AMS ammo would do more than 20.

#13 Davers

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:49 PM

Best thread title all day.

#14 Mcgral18

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:49 PM

View PostOneEyed Jack, on 21 April 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

Ammo explosion damage is based on rounds remaining multiplied by damage per round. I could be wrong, but I believe that at 1000 rounds per ton, AMS ammo would do more than 20.

My mistake, it's 24 damage for AMS ammo according to smurfy.

.024 damage per AMS round. Close enough.

#15 Loc Nar

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:13 PM

Hams will be fixed in the upcoming lunch module.

#16 InRev

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:25 PM

Jamón ibérico, tío . . . ¡es la **** madre!

#17 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:38 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 21 April 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

My mistake, it's 24 damage for AMS ammo according to smurfy.

.024 damage per AMS round. Close enough.

Huh, whadyya know? I've never actually noticed that chart on smurfy before. I had considered that the damage was likely reduced by a significant margin from the damage the AMS did, as 3.5 damage per round seemed extreme, but I was unaware of how much. I must say that 0.024 seems a rather odd number to settle on.

#18 Roadbeer

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:40 PM

View PostOneEyed Jack, on 21 April 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

Huh, whadyya know? I've never actually noticed that chart on smurfy before. I had considered that the damage was likely reduced by a significant margin from the damage the AMS did, as 3.5 damage per round seemed extreme, but I was unaware of how much. I must say that 0.024 seems a rather odd number to settle on.

Reported for being off topic.

You're statements have absolutely nothing to do with hams.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:47 PM

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:48 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 21 April 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Reported for being off topic.

You're statements have absolutely nothing to do with hams.


Spamtastic.





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