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[Fox With A Shotgun]

Athom83, on 22 August 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

NASCAR Simulator 2017; 11/10, would abandon assaults again- IGN.

Well if the assaults were actually worth protecting in most PUG matches (read: not LRM boating), lighter mechs would have a proper reason to escort them. Most of the time I see assaults that turn tail and flee in the face of the least enemy fire, which doesn't really make a convincing case to stand and fight for the rest of the lighter mechs.

Jon Gotham, on 22 August 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

I just read on the roadmap they are considering 8v8.....oh no.....
The fewer you have on the map-the more important each build/person is. The potato effect is more pronounced....just two bad players is now 25% of your whole team.....

This might actually be a good thing. The volume of fire to dodge and the amount of armor you have to destroy to carry a match is a lot less with just 8v8, making it much easier for a competent player to carry a team.

[SuperFunkTron]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 22 August 2017 - 10:13 PM, said:

Well if the assaults were actually worth protecting in most PUG matches (read: not LRM boating), lighter mechs would have a proper reason to escort them. Most of the time I see assaults that turn tail and flee in the face of the least enemy fire, which doesn't really make a convincing case to stand and fight for the rest of the lighter mechs.



This might actually be a good thing. The volume of fire to dodge and the amount of armor you have to destroy to carry a match is a lot less with just 8v8, making it much easier for a competent player to carry a team.

I definitely get your frustration with assaults. I have to say that the general bad taste that so many poor assault pilots makes it hard to want to change course and defend the few that happen to call out sensible moves and often the need for only one or 2 of a specific mech (this is where I get frustrated because I'm not piloting LRM assaults, but often hold the rear line to slow the enemy advance).

I'm still finding the lack of communications, even if someone uses the command wheel exclusively to convey their thoughts, to be one of the most frustrating things in this game.

[mad kat]

You'd think that after the amount the time this game has been around friendly assault mechs would stop parking behind smaller friendlies when they poke.

But noooooo. Ffs stop walking you fat arse stalker right up behind me when I peer around a corner or over a hill only to find I'm getting ripped apart as the 'S' key doesn't seem to be working.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

I feel dirty just posting this.



This was on a 2x LRM10, NARC, TAG kitfox.

The LRMageddon is real today.

[Balilaika]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 19 August 2017 - 09:11 PM, said:

Is it really that bad? I've only come across one or two instances of bad hitreg happening, and those had to do with someone feathering their JJs (which has always been the case, particularly at high ping). And I'm using ERPPCs most of the time.

On my clan acc, I have a linebacker with a 78pt alpha. I put this 78pts into the back of a panther, at about 5m. He still had yellow armour after wards........

[SuperFunkTron]

Balilaika, on 24 August 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

On my clan acc, I have a linebacker with a 78pt alpha. I put this 78pts into the back of a panther, at about 5m. He still had yellow armour after wards........

If a lot of that is missiles, there is a chance that they don't have a chance to converge while that close. Other weapons may also have an issue, but it does require some distance for those weapons to converge on the reticle and may lead to the issue you had.

[el piromaniaco]

If there are missiles, even clan, they may have reduced damage this close too, won't they?

[Bulletsponge0]

el piromaniaco, on 24 August 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

If there are missiles, even clan, they may have reduced damage this close too, won't they?

not SRms.. they do full damage over their entire range

[Trenchbird]

For the love of god, when the enemy team NASCARs, and someone is telling you that it's about to happen, don't blithely ignore them and stand there.

Also, I wonder if I just got hit with another "Bad language" report or something. That keeps happening lately, and it's problably because of my belligerent hatred for people using the Scorch to LRM.

Edited by Catten Hart, 24 August 2017 - 08:23 PM.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Charlie lance. I swear, is there some sort of linear correlation between Mech weight and incapability to analyse the map properly?

When a light mech strobes the entire enemy team with locks, and calls for help for three damn minutes, there's something serious about to come down on your collective rear CTs. When you have RACs pounding on your rear CTs, you turn around and FIGHT, not run away with your rear CTs still facing the enemy.

Useless. Damn. Assaults. Why do I even bother helping them?!

[Bud Crue]

While admittedly I was only able to play 5 matches last night due to a splitting headache, and that fact may be coloring my perceptions, but it seems to me that last nights matches showed me the new group queue meta play. No more "group up". No more deathball (thanks to all the strikes). Rather, just take 8-12 fast movers (mediums, lights and linebackers or similar mechs) and spread way out and then all push in to the enemy at slightly different times, and from different directions, with each mech dropping a strike as they go. Normally I would say "that's stupid" but boy it sure seemed to work for the enemy teams last night. Groups of mixed Assassins, Novas, Linebackers, MG Cheetahs and Lynx, and an occasional Javlin and Wolfhound for 4 out of 5 matches. It was brutally effective.

[Jon Gotham]

Two whines...one was a certain jade falcon unit running entire waves of mg lights in FW. Deplorable frankly, and they wonder why few play the mode...

Second one was I seem to have earned a couple of fans, one of which I had a run-in with a few years ago when he left a team mate to die, despite me asking him not to-he didn't like being called on it and replied here in this very thread, with his alternate version of events.
Seems like he has a friend:) Got a nasty, childish pm the other day after I had blown a fuse in a game. I only vent at people when they:
Cower, passively waiting.
Cower and let a team mate die.
Engage in futile sniping, refusing to share armour.
Lrm-doing the above.
Lrm assault mech....
Leeching-this is a more developed version of number 2, where they use the team and skirt the edges of any given fight letting their team take damage so they don't.
Assaults are particularly guilty of this.
As for the fan, I can't even remember seeing his name-let alone what I said. I might have stepped over the line and if he'd have explained to me what I'd said that triggered him I might have said sorry-but he sent me a snarky response instead:

"Long time no see. How is my little Dunner-Kruger buddy doing?

I appreciate your kind words at the end of the match and I was very happy to see that you are still trash talking teammates while being completely clueless about the game. 3 years later and you are still unable to take responsibility for your own inadequacies.

I guess it must have really upset you that I tripled the 2nd highest scorer on our team while yet again having to carry you. It must have been nearly 4 years ago when I first did that as a newbie and you are still mad about it. I never even said anything bad to you, you are still just upset that I disagreed with you while actually backing it up by playing better than you.

My advice is you might want to hold back on the trash talking until you can produce something to back it up. Your bad attitude and inability to learn from your mistakes has meant you are still just as clueless about this game as you were back then. You once said you hate it when people can't take criticism on the chin. Well maybe you should heed your own advice because there is a good reason why you are terrible at every game you play.

[cya around bud."
I'm suspecting from the above he was a leecher:P He also doesn't accept the fact that people do get wound up on games like this, they can and WILL vent. They have serious stuff going on in real life (like me presently) and sometimes can't control the temper.
99% of the time though, I'll vent at people for being passive, passive sniping/lrming or leeching.
I also have to contend with reduced dexterity due to damage in my hands.This causes frustration and when I see people not engaging I tend to say something.
I was inclined to say sorry till he started bragging, as you can see.
Is the Dunner-Kruger thing what people who feel smart use instead of calling you "kid?"

And I notice it's Dunning-Kruger....he couldn't even get that right:P

Edited by Jon Gotham, 25 August 2017 - 08:43 PM.

[Trenchbird]

Jon Gotham, on 25 August 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

Two whines...one was a certain jade falcon unit running entire waves of mg lights in FW. Deplorable frankly, and they wonder why few play the mode...

Damn, that didn't sound so bad, until I remembered how much map control those damn things could have against poor little PUGgles. That cockpit dinging of 12 dakkas must've been pants-browning to some poor LRM boat.

That tactic should've come to a screeching halt against another (Good) 12 man, though.

Edited by Catten Hart, 25 August 2017 - 09:44 PM.

[Jon Gotham]

Well catten there was maybe four cheetahs.... so that's twenty four mgs. Plus the the sixty four from the lynxs....so eighty eight mgs is a lot of dps....
Is there any wonder fw has become so barren?

Edited by Jon Gotham, 26 August 2017 - 03:08 AM.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Jon Gotham, on 26 August 2017 - 03:08 AM, said:

Well catten there was maybe four cheetahs.... so that's twenty four mgs. Plus the the sixty four from the lynxs....so eighty eight mgs is a lot of dps....
Is there any wonder fw has become so barren?

Well, I guess it's time to change up some. How about bringing a NARC and LRM 900+? That's probably even more trollish.

[Trenchbird]

Fox With A Shotgun, on 26 August 2017 - 03:40 AM, said:

Well, I guess it's time to change up some. How about bringing a NARC and LRM 900+? That's probably even more trollish.

I'd say less effective against Light Rushes of any caliber, though. Why not Streak and AC/20 spam, if we're going counter-light?

[AphexTwin11]

Been playing MWO very consistently as of March of last year and have generally enjoyed myself - big MechWarrior fan of pretty much all franchises.

However, I played a good amount of CS:GO over this past weekend because I'm starting to feel MWO is a little stale.

Holy crap was it fun - it made MWO seem like watching paint dry. It has made it very difficult to get back in to MWO.

I never wanted to be the "I'm taking a break from MWO cuz it's boring and repetitive, PGI sux ggclose" forum guy, but here I am doing that exact thing - I suppose it was bound to happen eventually

[Alienized]

i have a flower growing out of my car....

[Jon Gotham]

AphexTwin11, on 28 August 2017 - 07:27 AM, said:

Been playing MWO very consistently as of March of last year and have generally enjoyed myself - big MechWarrior fan of pretty much all franchises.

However, I played a good amount of CS:GO over this past weekend because I'm starting to feel MWO is a little stale.

Holy crap was it fun - it made MWO seem like watching paint dry. It has made it very difficult to get back in to MWO.

I never wanted to be the "I'm taking a break from MWO cuz it's boring and repetitive, PGI sux ggclose" forum guy, but here I am doing that exact thing - I suppose it was bound to happen eventually

I have just come back from nearly a year off. It's the players that annoy me
Namely two traits: the super solo mentality and the passivity.

[Balilaika]

8 v 8.
I'm getting worried about this. Less players means the effect bad players are is less diluted, means you have to carry harder. Means less relaxation if you want to win.
Also during EU hours means language barriers are more of an issue with less variables on each team.
Certain mechs and builds become stronger with less people shooting at them. Think atm mad cat, 120+alpha ......

It'll get voted in though, forcing anyone that don't like it to put up and shut up. Because the majority wants it-so screw everyone else. Like the map voting, I HATE that. I despise the ability other players have to force me to play what mode and map they want to play, and if the majority get what they want I'll be forced to play 8v8.
If it comes to pass, maybe time to leave.
I'm tired of other players having control over my free time and how I spend it.