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[Kinski Orlawisch]

As reward fopr buying wave 3 early?.. Urbanmech Nr4..


The UrbanMech IIC is a Clan upgrade of the original UrbanMech. Around the same time as the development of the OmniMech during the Golden Century, Clan Coyote technicians reworked this venerable design. They studied battle data from as far back as the Amaris Civil War and used this research as the basis for their upgrades. They apparently decided that the UrbanMech (known as the Urbie to its fans and detractors alike) did not need much reworking, as they simply upgraded the autocannon to a Type 9 Ultra Autocannon/10 and the Small Laser to a Series 1 Extended Range Small Laser. The more advanced Clan technology allowed the technicians to increase the 'Mech's speed by fifty percent and improve its jumping capacity to 90 meters, though they did not change the six tons of standard armor or the ten standard heat sinks. While the Coyotes field the most UrbanMech IICs, the 'Mechs are also fielded by the Snow Ravens, Ice Hellions, and Hell's Horses.[3]

[Alaskan Nobody]

Marc von der Heide, on 07 March 2015 - 04:13 AM, said:

though they did not change ... or the ten standard heat sinks....

Original Urbie carried 11 heatsinks

[Tank]

Tina Benoit, on 27 February 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

Hey!
I've noticed how passionate everyone seems to be about the Urbanmech...

So I thought I'd share something with you!

This is an image of the high resolution model of the Standard Geo and the Collectors Edition Geo~

Tina, you are like divine warrior angel of battle - Valkyrie, brought us best news we ever wished to hear and see. Thank you so munch!


Finally I can see the weapon with help of witch Inner Sphere will be liberated!

[YaKillinMeSmalls]

Marc von der Heide, on 07 March 2015 - 04:13 AM, said:

As reward fopr buying wave 3 early?.. Urbanmech Nr4..


The UrbanMech IIC is a Clan upgrade of the original UrbanMech. Around the same time as the development of the OmniMech during the Golden Century, Clan Coyote technicians reworked this venerable design. They studied battle data from as far back as the Amaris Civil War and used this research as the basis for their upgrades. They apparently decided that the UrbanMech (known as the Urbie to its fans and detractors alike) did not need much reworking, as they simply upgraded the autocannon to a Type 9 Ultra Autocannon/10 and the Small Laser to a Series 1 Extended Range Small Laser. The more advanced Clan technology allowed the technicians to increase the 'Mech's speed by fifty percent and improve its jumping capacity to 90 meters, though they did not change the six tons of standard armor or the ten standard heat sinks. While the Coyotes field the most UrbanMech IICs, the 'Mechs are also fielded by the Snow Ravens, Ice Hellions, and Hell's Horses.[3]

I've been reading the background info for the Clans on Sarna.net, and I knew there was some reason I was digging Clan Coyote more than the others...

[Alaskan Nobody]

Tank, on 07 March 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

Finally I can see the weapon with help of witch Inner Sphere will be liberated!

Give me equal BV (or Cbill!) value on Urbies and Twolves, and so long as we do not fight on an open plain, I can guarantee the Urbies will at least give a good fight!

[Tank]

Shar Wolf, on 07 March 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Give me equal BV (or Cbill!) value on Urbies and Twolves, and so long as we do not fight on an open plain, I can guarantee the Urbies will at least give a good fight!

They will decimate opposing forces on close range and confined quarters! When something rings opponents cockpit with multiple AC20s - there is not munch he can do.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Tank, on 07 March 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

They will decimate opposing forces on close range and confined quarters! When something rings opponents cockpit with multiple AC20s - there is not munch he can do.

I prefer the AC10 variants actually (more armor!) but AC20 are SCARY.

[Sylonce]

I fielded,12 Urbies in MegaMek once. The equivalent BV on the opposing team was 2 clan heavies and an assault (can't remember what they were exactly). Fought in an open field, so I lost a lot of Urbies, bit still emerged victorious with the Clanners running away in fear.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Sylonce, on 07 March 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

Fought in an open field, so I lost a lot of Urbies, bit still emerged victorious with the Clanners running away in fear.

Pushed them against the map borders?

Cannot think of how else - since some of them they walk backwards faster than you walk forwards

[Sylonce]

Shar Wolf, on 07 March 2015 - 05:31 PM, said:

Pushed them against the map borders?

Cannot think of how else - since some of them they walk backwards faster than you walk forwards

I recall one of them moved into a canyon, and I jump jetted six Urbies surrounding the guy with barely an escape route hehe. He did cut his way through, but not before taking a few rounds of autocannon.

Edited by Sylonce, 07 March 2015 - 05:39 PM.

[wolf74]

So many UrbanMech are Marching in Sync that there coming is Braking MechWarrior Online, The Servers Can't handle the Power they are bring.


the Above was the Side Note, Below is the Main Note


This Year Pseudo UrbanMech Days. (Basicly the 3rd Weekend in March every Year, this will be the 3rd Year) March 14-16


Urbanmech UM-R60(73) (3025 Model)
Old
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e7fa65a2a13c07e

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b22ac08b8a6d7da
Add Endo-Steel to the mech to make up the Differance between the STD60 and STD100 Engines and was able to now Add the 11th heatsink back in to the design so it now as closest to the 3025 Stock UM-R60

Urbanmech UM-R63 (3050 Model Not possable in MWO at this time)
Lacking the 2nd Energy slot for the Small Pulse


Urbanmech UM-R60L (3025 Model Not possable in MWO at this time)
Not able to Put an AC/20 on a 30 ton mech


$4,242,173

SDR-5K
3,976,173
Cost breakdown
2,452,540 (SDR-5K)
1,073,633 (Components)
1,341,633 (current components)
- 268,000 (stock components)
150,000 (FERRO FIBROUS ARMOR)
300,000 (ENDO-STEEL STRUCTURE)


UrbanMech IIc as (Ref 3060TRO Fantasy Productions Book#10987 pages 144-145)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...078e176e79d2f08

Kit Fox Prime, Add the Kit Fox-S legs (for the jump Jets)
Should Cost you just a Little over 1mil C-Bill over the Cost of the Kit Fox Prime

Edit :
Link to last Year UrbanMech Day Thread
http://mwomercs.com/...ds-march-15-17/

Best Run we has Last year

I want to see someone beat this UrbanMech Run this year

Edited by wolf74, 11 March 2015 - 10:09 AM.

[Nightshade24]

Cimarb, on 27 February 2015 - 08:08 AM, said:

Well, technically, 360° twist only means that it can go 360° around, then stop. People just usually associate that with the ability to continuously spin around, but if you consider all of the cabling in the waist of a robot, that may or may not be the actual case depending on how it is designed.

You just said robot. You lost all validity.

[Krigherren]

Nightshade24, on 12 March 2015 - 12:16 AM, said:

You just said robot. You lost all validity.

I'm curious as to what you believe makes something a robot or a mech.

[Ovion]

Nightshade24, on 12 March 2015 - 12:16 AM, said:

You just said robot. You lost all validity.

I fail to see how.

A Battlemech is a piloted robotic war machine.

You might be confusing them with autonomous robots, but it is an interchangable term.

I realise there are other robotics within the BT universe, but that's hardly a solid argument here.

[Smoked]

Ovion, on 12 March 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

I fail to see how.

A Battlemech is a piloted robotic war machine.

You might be confusing them with autonomous robots, but it is an interchangable term.

I realise there are other robotics within the BT universe, but that's hardly a solid argument here.

I guess if you refer to the robot battles etc on TV, they can be considered driven. However, all the manufacturing robots and commerical/home robots for sale are programmed and are autonomous.

From Wiki, "A robot is a mechanical or virtual artificial agent, usually an electro-mechanical machine that is guided by a computer program or electronic circuitry. Robots can be autonomous or semi-autonomous and range from humanoids such as Honda's Advanced Step in Innovative Mobility (ASIMO) and TOSY's TOSY Ping Pong Playing Robot (TOPIO) to industrial robots, collectively programmed swarm robots, and even microscopic nano robots. By mimicking a lifelike appearance or automating movements, a robot may convey a sense of intelligence or thought of its own."

So I guess if you are calling AMS a semi-autonomous feature, then I guess you can call mechs with AMS, robots.

So if someone DC's in battle, does this robot that someone is piloting in the game, no longer becomes defined as robot and becomes a mech in your viewpoint, or is it always a robot?

Just out of curiosity what do you do for a living and what is your background concerning robotics?

Edited by Smoked, 12 March 2015 - 03:05 PM.

[Heffay]

I call mechs "robots" just for fun.

[Smoked]

Heffay, on 12 March 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

I call mechs "robots" just for fun.

Damn you got the 3000th reply.

I describe MWO as "the big stompy robot game" to my friends. However I wouldn't correct someone that was using the term "robot" correctly because that would make me seem ignornant.

[Ovion]

Smoked, on 12 March 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

I guess if you refer to the robot battles etc on TV, they can be considered driven. However, all the manufacturing robots and commerical/home robots for sale are programmed and are autonomous.

From Wiki, "A robot is a mechanical or virtual artificial agent, usually an electro-mechanical machine that is guided by a computer program or electronic circuitry. Robots can be autonomous or semi-autonomous and range from humanoids such as Honda's Advanced Step in Innovative Mobility (ASIMO) and TOSY's TOSY Ping Pong Playing Robot (TOPIO) to industrial robots, collectively programmed swarm robots, and even microscopic nano robots. By mimicking a lifelike appearance or automating movements, a robot may convey a sense of intelligence or thought of its own."

So I guess if you are calling AMS a semi-autonomous feature, then I guess you can call mechs with AMS, robots.

So if someone DC's in battle, does this robot that someone is piloting in the game, no longer becomes defined as robot and becomes a mech in your viewpoint, or is it always a robot?

Just out of curiosity what do you do for a living and what is your background concerning robotics?

For what it's worth, I have a background in mechanical engineering and design, specialising in CAD (Solidworks primarily), IT technician and moving into 3D printing off the back of the afformentioned CAD specialisation.

However, in modern nomenculture, popular culture and general, the term Robot has also come to be synonymous with Mecha.
Mecha itself, simply means mechanical, and the origins of the term are so vague as to be anything.
I have mech drafting pencils for example.

To also quote Wikipedia: "Mecha is a science fiction genre that centers on robots or machines controlled by people. These machines vary greatly in size, shape, and appearance. Some are little more than cars with arms and legs, while others are giant humanoid constructs. Different sub-genres exist, with varying connotations of realism. The concept of Super Robot and Real Robot are two such examples found in Japanese anime."

"The word "mecha" (メカ meka^{[color=#00e]?[/color]}) is an abbreviation first used in Japanese of the word "mechanical". In Japanese, mecha encompasses all mechanical objects, including cars, guns, computers, and other devices. In this sense, it is extended to humanoid, human-sized robots and such things as the boomers from Bubblegum Crisis, the similar replicants of Blade Runner; even cyborgs can be referred to as mecha. The Japanese use the term "robot" (ロボット robotto^{[color=#00e]?[/color]}) or "giant robot" to distinguish limbed vehicles from other mechanical devices.^[1] One prominent example is the anime Mazinger Z, where the term "Super Robot", features in the Japanese theme song."

Additionally, the film Robot Jox further cemented the interchangeable term of 'Mecha' and 'Robot' within our vocabulary.

Technically, in the english language, yes, in a technical a Robot is an autonomous machine that can perform a task or tasks with minimal input from the user, but additionally, all robots would technically be Mecha also.

Yet in a broader sense, and other languages, robot is a perfectly acceptable terminolgy.

As others have stated (and I do it myself), Battlech is often refered to as 'big stompy robots', mecha anime commonly refered to as 'giant robot shows', etc.

[Strum Wealh]

Nightshade24, on 12 March 2015 - 12:16 AM, said:

You just said robot. You lost all validity.

Krigherren, on 12 March 2015 - 11:22 AM, said:

I'm curious as to what you believe makes something a robot or a mech.

Ovion, on 12 March 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

I fail to see how.

A Battlemech is a piloted robotic war machine.

You might be confusing them with autonomous robots, but it is an interchangable term.

I realise there are other robotics within the BT universe, but that's hardly a solid argument here.

Smoked, on 12 March 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

I guess if you refer to the robot battles etc on TV, they can be considered driven. However, all the manufacturing robots and commerical/home robots for sale are programmed and are autonomous.

From Wiki, "A robot is a mechanical or virtual artificial agent, usually an electro-mechanical machine that is guided by a computer program or electronic circuitry. Robots can be autonomous or semi-autonomous and range from humanoids such as Honda's Advanced Step in Innovative Mobility (ASIMO) and TOSY's TOSY Ping Pong Playing Robot (TOPIO) to industrial robots, collectively programmed swarm robots, and even microscopic nano robots. By mimicking a lifelike appearance or automating movements, a robot may convey a sense of intelligence or thought of its own."

So I guess if you are calling AMS a semi-autonomous feature, then I guess you can call mechs with AMS, robots.

So if someone DC's in battle, does this robot that someone is piloting in the game, no longer becomes defined as robot and becomes a mech in your viewpoint, or is it always a robot?

Just out of curiosity what do you do for a living and what is your background concerning robotics?

There is an already-extant thread for this topic...

Also, BattleMechs actually aren't robots (see here, here, and here) - they are "robotic" (e.g. "robot-like"), but they are not "true robots".

[stjobe]

A 'mech is a semi-autonomous robotic fighting vehicle. That's the best definition we could agree on when this topic was last discussed.

A 'mech can pilot itself from point A to point B provided someone tells it where point B is and that it should start walking. It could in theory fight by itself. That it doesn't is more tribute to the idea that even in the 31st century we apparently have something against totally removing the human from the killing decision loop.