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[Jin Ma]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 April 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

yeah, I think they did have the 6 energy, got changed a bit before I became a founder, but some older founders commented on it having them, anyhow.

yeah they did lol, and there was also that bug i think that multiplied what showed on your screen for loadout later on.

but i'm ******** for thinking this loadout is on the catapult, cuz its the loadout of the mech looking at the catapult, durp.

[Bishop Steiner]

Jin Ma, on 28 April 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

yeah they did lol, and there was also that bug i think that multiplied what showed on your screen for loadout later on.

but i'm ******** for thinking this loadout is on the catapult, cuz its the loadout of the mech looking at the catapult, durp.

eh, it happens. Obviously I was asleep at the wheel too.

[Bishop Steiner]

Looking at how good the Adder and Stormcrow are modeled, hope the weapons will be better sized! Makes my K2 a sad panda though, feeling like an ugly duckling!

[Bishop Steiner]

Been trying to get back into my K2, been running it as a Marauder for fun....results....vary.

[Wolfways]

Bishop Steiner, on 01 May 2014 - 09:27 AM, said:

Been trying to get back into my K2, been running it as a Marauder for fun....results....vary.

I did that with a Cataphract. It was...adequate.

Also, why is this thread only on page 20?!

[Bishop Steiner]

Wolfways, on 01 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

I did that with a Cataphract. It was...adequate.

Also, why is this thread only on page 20?!

Launch Module distractions?

[Dauphni]

I went back and ran my old QuadLL build, and it's actually still quite good. With 18 DHS, ghost heat isn't that bad at all!

[GalaxyBluestar]

bump for thread worthyness

[Bishop Steiner]

GalaxyBluestar, on 03 May 2014 - 08:26 PM, said:

bump for thread worthyness

many thanks..... got distracted and forgot. Seems other concerns are on everyones minds....

[Abisha]

Deal with it!..

[Stardancer01]

If you put a large weapon on a light mech IT SHOULD LOOK STUPID! No point sugar coating it. If you try to balance a PPC on a spider’s arm it should walk lopsided. It should look is if the spider has been overloaded and would suffer severe internal damage if it were to run fast. If we had hard point limits this would not happen, and it is the catapult k2 that is suffering from under scaling the PPC, in order to make the PPC spider look is if it were not stupid when it is.

[Bishop Steiner]

NEVER FORGET K(2)ENTARES!!!!!!!

[Jonny Taco]

I got to say.... This OP is one of the best and most constructive pieces of significant art feedback I've seen in the better part of a year...

Just wanted to give ya a round of applause.

[Bishop Steiner]

lartfor, on 05 May 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

I got to say.... This OP is one of the best and most constructive pieces of significant art feedback I've seen in the better part of a year...

Just wanted to give ya a round of applause.

Many thanks, good sir. I am a passionate Btech fan, and Amateur artist, who generally enjoys this game, warts and all. But since I don't have the know how to make recommendation of things like game code, figured I would use what I do know to crusade for a better game in other avenues!

[Damia Savon]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 April 2014 - 09:10 AM, said:

Universal TRUISM overlooked on the F-35, you can design something that does everything, but it will never do anything WELL.

short of designing a true "Omni" AirFrame, I don't see it happening.

Not to redirect the thread back to modern US military hardware but what was really overlooked is that they tried this with the F-111 back in the 1960s and it failed utterly.

Back on topic.. -- Just make the barrels on the K2/Jester PPCs larger and keep the smaller barrels for lasers.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

The C1 suffers as well but I agree, give back the bigger PPCs.

The bore of the Marauder's PPCs is even bigger than the Warhammers.

[Damia Savon]

Oh what the heck, since we are pointing out all the stuff wrong with Catapults why not mention the other confusing issue.

Why on earth does the K2 (and stalkers for that matter) have only 1 module slot (2 when mastered)? Yea the weapon loadout was kind of impressive back in 2012 but it is hard the same now. You can put deadlier weapon packages on Jags and many other mechs. Plenty of other heavies have more weapon hardpoints. Even my beloved Jester has 3 module slots. So why should the K2 still be stuck with 2?

It is really stupid and harder to justify when a total of three slots is the norm.

Meh.

[FupDup]

Damia Savon, on 08 May 2014 - 07:12 AM, said:

Oh what the heck, since we are pointing out all the stuff wrong with Catapults why not mention the other confusing issue.

Why on earth does the K2 (and stalkers for that matter) have only 1 module slot (2 when mastered)? Yea the weapon loadout was kind of impressive back in 2012 but it is hard the same now. You can put deadlier weapon packages on Jags and many other mechs. Plenty of other heavies have more weapon hardpoints. Even my beloved Jester has 3 module slots. So why should the K2 still be stuck with 2?

It is really stupid and harder to justify when a total of three slots is the norm.

Meh.

Stalkers have a crapton of hardpoints, high-mounted hardpoints, and superb hitboxes. For them, a module slot reduction makes sense.

The K2, on the other hand, has alright hardpoints but fewer than most heavies, only 2 high mounted hardpoints, and horrible hitboxes. For them, a module slot reduction makes no sense whatsoever. It was a band-aid nerf from a time when the K2 managed to be a dominant mech, which is no longer the case. As such, the nerf can/should be retracted.

[Damia Savon]

FupDup, on 08 May 2014 - 07:15 AM, said:

Stalkers have a crapton of hardpoints, high-mounted hardpoints, and superb hitboxes. For them, a module slot reduction makes sense.

The K2, on the other hand, has alright hardpoints but fewer than most heavies, only 2 high mounted hardpoints, and horrible hitboxes. For them, a module slot reduction makes no sense whatsoever. It was a band-aid nerf from a time when the K2 managed to be a dominant mech, which is no longer the case. As such, the nerf can/should be retracted.

I totally agree about the K2, obviously.

If you look at the hardpoints and layouts for the Stalker line compared to other assault mechs, there are only a couple models with a lot of of points.

Banshees are 6-9.
Atlases 6-8
Awesome 6-9
Battlemaster 8-10
Highlanders all have 7
Viktors - all have 7.

Stalkers - 7-10

Stalkers do have some high mounted weapon spots but most versions have those in the arms. The hitboxes are good but face it, the center and side torsos are huge targets. I run a lot of stalkers and it is so easy to get a side torso blown out along with the corresponding arm. I think only the Awesome is as bad in this regard.

In any event, there is no point for the K2 to have a single module to start with.

[FupDup]

Damia Savon, on 08 May 2014 - 07:31 AM, said:

I totally agree about the K2, obviously.

If you look at the hardpoints and layouts for the Stalker line compared to other assault mechs, there are only a couple models with a lot of of points.

Banshees are 6-9.
Atlases 6-8
Awesome 6-9
Battlemaster 8-10
Highlanders all have 7
Viktors - all have 7.

Stalkers - 7-10

Stalkers do have some high mounted weapon spots but most versions have those in the arms. The hitboxes are good but face it, the center and side torsos are huge targets. I run a lot of stalkers and it is so easy to get a side torso blown out along with the corresponding arm. I think only the Awesome is as bad in this regard.

In any event, there is no point for the K2 to have a single module to start with.

The Stalker's big side torsos are actually the key to its durability. It can very easily shield its center torso from fire, which allows STD engines on the mech to tank damage like a beast. The CT is relatively narrow and hard to hit unless you're looking at him almost head-on. Those big juicy sides keep that CT nice and safe.