322 replies to this topic

[WarZ]

I would welcome a SOLO ONLY queue and drop in it 84% of the time. When my buds are on I'll team and would want team match ups.

Not having to face organized jump sniping meta, means I dont have to be forced to bring the same meta to even the chances. It means I can experiment, play different mechs and builds, find new things I might like, and in general just have FUN with the game.

Current matchmaking is an abusive pile of dung. As a high elo mostly pug player I have to face highly imbalanced bullsh** most of the day. I dont get to have as much fun and am forced to pilot mechs I'm not in the mood to play to keep the other teams from steam rolling my teams.

So yes give the 84% a more fun and open ended experience, instead of watching them wander out of the game and letting it die.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Aym, on 21 April 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

. However this flies in the face of the desire for most of the forum posters in regards to queue desires. So to my fellow Mechwarriors, I ask you to please list the various reasons you drop solo, when and if you do at all. I’ll get the ball rolling.

When he says fellow mechwarrios(he's regarding those who are all in the same boat of ideology). To be fair he said he was accepting all views and they would all be treated with the same attention. By his post he does lean to be one sided but he doesn't shut down the opposite response. Kudos to AYM

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 21 April 2014 - 08:08 PM.

[IceCase88]

I am not holding my breath on community warfare. Especially since PGI is catering to PUGs. Essentially, community warfare is going to be left to a roll of the dice and whether you won the PUG lottery or not. Does not sound like much fun to me. In fact... it sounds like it is going to be pretty terrible.

[Craig Steele]

Aym, on 21 April 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

You don't solo drop much, I'd still like to add your reasons to the list for consideration, but if you don't wish to participate I respect that, however it could negatively impact the veracity of my summary :-D
Also, you were not the first person to go off topic, nor were the first I called out, as you have rightly addressed in your own, admittedly off topic, posts. So let's bring it back to hand if you would care to share why you, admittedly rarely, drop solo.

See the problem is Aym, I don't think now there is any value in me (or anyone else) putting forward their personal view to be simply abused by you and others.

In my first post, I supported your intent by pointing out that some people supporting you have recently shown some hypocracy in another thread, and that you should treat some views with care. I didn't call them out, no need for name and shame, but you should be aware if your desire is impartiality. I also quoted 2 other off topic posts and encouraged them to get back to your OP of embracing everyones view.

In my second post, I responded to Sandpits direct referencing of other threads and closed my post by directing the thread back on topic.

In my third post, I asked for clarity on a statement you made

In my 4th post I expressed some gratitude for the clarity provided.

In my 5th post I tried to show you that you were moving away from your OP with a pre determined view.

Here is where you implied that after 5 posts I had nothing to say on the thread. Two posts of support to your intent, one request for info, one thank you and one "hey you're maybe going off track here"

In my 6th post I showed empathy to someone who also deduced (perhaps form the same post I questioned) that the thread was devolving into another piece of propaganda for the "Pro Group" argument.

This is my 7th post and I'll tell you exactly what it is, a vote of no confidence in your OP.

You don't appear to question or challenge any posts supporting a "Group Play" desire but you have people who are succinct in saying "I prefer Solo Play". You accept at face value the posts supportive of your view and question others. You have subsequently said you want to gather data to support a specific outcome (which was not your OP at all). That all suggests to me that you have a pre disposed agenda to make the "stats" show what you want them to. Some have said thats exactly what PGI have done.

The thing that annoys me the most is that there are people here who genuinely believe PGI has lied to them about some things, and the counter argument is threads like this based on deception. Heck you even drafted the title for "marketing" purposes.

I'll watch the thread and see how it pans out but honestly, I understand why Solo PUG's don't come on and register their thoughts when this is the sort of treatment they face.

If they have a opposing view they are going to be called out to defend themselves or dismissed if they don't (so it would seem) and their view is largely irrelevant anyway, the impression given is the view is already formed. PGI lied, and here is x people who agree with me. And you want the moral high ground?

Someone said it very well earlier, you're asking for support for gun rights at a gun show, but if someone dares to say "no" you ask them to justify their opinion, and then some even go on to try and convince them why they are wrong.

I look forward to you getting this thread back on track and treating everyone equally. I look forward to a fair and impartial treatment of everyones view. That's what attracted me to the thread in the OP, that's not what it has proven to be so far.

Edited by Craig Steele, 21 April 2014 - 08:44 PM.

[wanderer]

Why do I drop solo?

The group game PGI told me was coming never materialized. Thus, I bide in PUGatory until the time comes, or else it may be a Limbo to fade into obscurity and failure.

Only PGI could make factional warfare a matter of "soloing in unison".

[Eglar]

Cause I don't want to wait 6+ minutes for a drop.. o wait that's why I stopped solo-dropping.

[Aym]

Please limit yourselves to why you solo drop. Why you group is a fine discussion for another thread.

[wolf74]

From about Nov of last year is when I totally stopped dropping solo (pug). It Team play for me or no play.

[ShinVector]

Why I drop solo:

1. CapCon lost >90% of its active members waiting for CW.
2. Very few people left that play on my time zone GMT+8 after office hours.
3. I don't mind losing.
4. I am testing out builds and some other testing.
5. I just want to play casually and use random PUGs as meat shields.

[Kilo 40]

tucsonspeed6, on 21 April 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

The primary reasons I drop solo are:

1: My computer is my living room, where my 2 year old watches TV. Being able to kill giant robots with 'Little Einsteins' rockin in the background is an acquired tasted that I don't think most teams are ready to handle.

2: My headset is old and cheap. I doubt it works well at all, not that I've had experience trying.

3: I'm too self conscious to interject my opinions in the middle of a match. I always fear that I'd call the wrong target and my teammates would blame me for the loss. This is also why I never take command during a match.

4: I'm also a generally quiet person. I keep to myself and rely on myself.

5: My experience with merc groups is that they're led by armchair generals who make rigid rules about proving yourself to get into the group, and then after jumping through their hoops and licking their boots, they get to tell you when you're allowed to drop and with whom.

6: My first time trying out TS3, I joined one of the house servers and sat in the lobby for a bit expecting the people there to talk. Most of them looked to be AFK, so I figured I'd look through the other channels for a bit. I found the 'Looking for Group' channel and joined. A half hour or so passed, and during that time only one other guy joined the channel. It was maybe a minute before someone else joined and told the other guy to join them in whatever channel they were dropping in. I was dumbfounded that someone saw me sitting there for a half hour looking for a group and they didn't bother to invite me to join them. So I said f*** it, and taught myself to play good solo. Haven't felt a need to drop in a group since.

pretty much all of this.

add in the fact that I work nights, and that makes it 1. more difficult to find players at the times I'm playing and 2. I have to be quiet while the family is sleeping.

Edited by Kilo 40, 21 April 2014 - 11:25 PM.

[Aym]

Kilo 40, on 21 April 2014 - 11:19 PM, said:

pretty much all of this.

add in the fact that I work nights, and that makes it 1. more difficult to find players at the times I'm playing and 2. I have to be quiet while the family is sleeping.

I work nights as well, one of the things I miss about the old unofficial ts server was all the eu and oceanic players that taught me the game during closed beta since I played during north American dead times.

[Wolfways]

I drop solo because MWO is nowhere near good enough for me to dedicate the time and effort i've put into other games, and because there is no indication that the clans will ever exist in any recognizable form.

[Kilo 40]

Aym, on 21 April 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:

I work nights as well, one of the things I miss about the old unofficial ts server was all the eu and oceanic players that taught me the game during closed beta since I played during north American dead times.

I like to watch the language transition throughout the night.

also the low north american pings that turn into really high pings as russian/ eastern europe start coming on line, and the NA players start going to bed.

[XtremWarrior]

I drop SOLO because they said the game becomes easier when playing with premade.
I drop SOLO because i don't matter silently raging against my dumb allies i don't know, but it would get bad if i start raging loudly against dumb people i know.
I drop SOLO because my play times are very erratics.

But mostly, I drop SOLO because predatory animals are lonesome (and ninjas too ).
That and pure shyness...

[Craig Steele]

So as of post 114 (roughly 12 hours), I count 35 people expressing the view that they drop Solo because they either don't have or want a group environment, or a group environment is impractical for them in real life vs 15 people expressing they drop solo but with a group usually.

I might be out a couple, I might have double counted some people who reposted a rebuttal or explanation too, I didn't look at names just the guts of their post.

That's interesting right?

Some people would say that leads to a conclusion, that it supports one argument or the other.

Here's my prediction, over coming days word of this thread will spread amongst group players (because they talk to each other see) and the ratio will change because if any solo players do come across the thread they will see their fore runners got short shrift and why would they put themselves out there to be mocked as well.

And in a few days time, we will have maybe 100, 200 maybe 1,000 people expressing a view that represents a tiny fraction of the player population yet we will unashamedly hold the ratio demonstrated as indusputable proof of ...... what?

On a personal level and while this is not my thread at all, my thanks to all those who shared (will continue to share?) personal details / reasonings as to their reasoning for Solo drops. I found (and continue to find) your posts insightful.

Edited by Craig Steele, 22 April 2014 - 12:53 AM.

[Brawler1986]

I only drop in groups because the communication in PUGs are terrible. VOIP or at least a COMMO rose is a must for this game (even Battlefield 4 has it and it has even more bugs then this game). But since PGI doesn't listen to THE 84%, i'm forced to look for alternatives. This is also the reason why SMURFY is build, because PGI isn't able to implement this.

Edited by Brawler1986, 22 April 2014 - 12:36 AM.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

I drop sometimes solo, because my most of my ingame mates are not online. They play other games claiming the missing contents. Missing CW. I hope it will improve with the Launch modul. ...or with some new maps.

[Smitti]

I drop solo simply because I have no friends online at that given time that I wish to drop with.


Edit: Which happens far too frequently, many many tumbleweeds

Edited by Smittiferous, 22 April 2014 - 12:58 AM.

[-Natural Selection-]

Ghost Badger, on 21 April 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

I drop solo for the following reasons:

1) No one in my group is online.
2) My friends list is grey and sad.
3) I'm testing myself in my go-to mechs to make sure I'm not letting my evil premade boogie-brothers carry me.
4) There's a solo-only competition with a tangible fluff reward for X amount of wins.

Roland, on 21 April 2014 - 12:50 PM, said:

I drop solo because most of my friends who used to play no longer do, because it was too hard to play together.

Although, to be honest, I've pretty much abandoned playing myself as well.

Just killing time until the dog fighting module is released.
Just killing time until the dog fighting module is released.
Just killing time until the dog fighting module is released.
Just killing time until the dog fighting module is released.

Drum roll.... My number one reason is because the group already has 4 people and we take turns sitting out. I launch with them in hopes of getting the same match, but if I don't I really don't care to be there and usually lead the rush regardless if anyone is following..

[TyrEol]

I drop solo

* when I'm only planning on playing a few games sometimes as few as one in a play session.
* when I'm trying out new builds / tinkering with mechs

But if I have a good chunk of time to play I'll make the effort to join the house TS server and see if I can find a group.

I've certainly run into times when a group queue would have been nice so we could queue as one group rather than having an odd man out or splitting into two groups of 3.

I've never played a 12v12 match to date, I play from the EU.