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[Mazikar]

To be 100% honest... gold skins will no doubt be high on everyone's targeting list. Me I will target them because they no doubt had the cash to buy the good percs and thus they do pose more of a tactical threat. PGI may just be morbid enough to put in an achievement for killing one also (kinda like the one for Phoenix Mechs). Lets face it its different, bright neon pink was a good target for a while... but bright gold? Come on now .... let me shoot the shiny shi...... err yeah.

Edited by Lotharian, 27 April 2014 - 03:37 PM.

[Hexenhammer]

Mystere, on 27 April 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

Why? Is it:




<maniacal >

I work with some people that complain about the fat cats having all the money and how they, the plebs get screwed. Funny. If they spent as much time bitchin as I do improving my skill sets and cross training then maybe they'd be getting 10% raises like me. But no. Its easier to sit around and whine about rich people getting rich and how you deserve to be paid more. Deserved to be paid for what? Working on complaining?

[Oriius]

What only 50 left!? quick grab your camera and take a photo of all 50 while you can for prosperity's sake!

Wait, what? they are all digital? Ah...oh...

[a gaijin]

Magnakanus, on 25 April 2014 - 01:41 AM, said:

There is something called price/value balance. A Ferari is worth the money you pay for it because it is a real product and a quality product. I have the disposable income to buy the thing if I thought it was worth it, but vaporware is not worth it, the game as is is not worth that amount of money in its entirety either. I get the fact that people in Japan are willing to pay good money to attend a vocaloid concert (CG projection with CG music/song), but others find the notion nonsense and that wonderful thing called freedom of speech allows us to say so. Sober people can speak the truth just as bluntly.

Actually the main reason I support Gold Khan sales is because I've loved Mechwarrior as a sci-fi/wargaming franchise since 1998 and just want to see it keep going and going and going.
Of course I want see to see MWO improve and all the promises kept but to be honest I have a blast each and every time I drop even with the game as it is now.
I see paying PGI for this as a fundraiser for a series I love so I'm actually not interested in the "value" of what I get for the money in this case.

Kael 17, on 25 April 2014 - 05:12 AM, said:

Still no information about the warhorns.

Still no information about the bonus modules.

No information about the custom titles.

No tracker to see if people are even buying these things.

We are fifty-three days, as of this post, from the start of Operation Revival and the second of the social rewards is only thirty-percent unlocked.

I have already contributed generously to their coffers. I am not prepared to contribute still more for a something that everyone is going to be gunning for.

Besides, you'd almost have to stick with its Prime configuration. If you start swapping out structure components pretty soon you'd look ridiculous. I can just see it. Center torso, left leg, right torso, right arm all shiny while the rest of the mech has standard camo schemes.

I await with eager anticipation to unlock the secrets of these mysteries

Cannydog, on 25 April 2014 - 05:58 AM, said:

And you really think this money is going to "support Development"? Whoa! You really are gullible then. This is just a marketing ploy. I mean think about it... What are you getting for the extra $260 besides a "gold skin job"? There is nothing about it that justifies the extra money spent.
All of this money is going straight to the Publisher. With maybe a small portion of it going to the Execs at PGI.

And the publisher then funds PGI to keep MWO - a BattleTech game - alive, which is exactly what I want. Also, see my reply to first post above.

Facetious, on 25 April 2014 - 06:21 AM, said:

I think the really important question is, can I repaint the Gold Mech later?
I'm just saying, I love having a mech made of Gold, but what if I don't want people to know? Can I drive my Gold mech around painted with green camo? Cause I'd buy it in an instant if I could.

You'll have all the other Clan Mechs as well so just drop in your Goldie when with a group of friends Thumbs up to you!

Cathy, on 25 April 2014 - 06:41 AM, said:

Still we will soon know, the people, that have no idea of financial priorities, or are so rich, the socialist in me wants to get revenge

Says the girl "living it up in a Tamar Throne room."

WanderingSoul, on 25 April 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

Let me buy you another.

Yes please! Meet me at the Chuhai Stand after work weekdays after 4pm

Rouken, on 25 April 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:

The golden mechs need an upgrade from bitchin' betty to an elderly butler named nigel. "Beg your pardon, sir, but it appears the peasants are firing long range missiles at you." Also classical music playing softly in the background. Hardwood finish on the cockpit would be nice, too.

I actually lol'd for a long while after reading this -- thanks!!

Draconis March, on 25 April 2014 - 07:06 AM, said:

The game STILL feels like it's in beta after all this time. The recent abundance of sales is further evidence that this game is clearly in its death throes, and they're trying to milk as many pennies as they can from the gullible followers they still have.
Have you forgotten how they've constantly been pushing back the release dates for content that was promised over a year ago? Community warfare, anyone? (On that side note, I'm convinced that they have no intention of actually working on community warfare anymore. There has been no evidence of actual progress. Instead, we get these ridiculously overpriced clan packages shoved out the door instead.) Another example of course is UI 2.0, which was delayed and delayed and finally shoved out the door in a state that doesn't even resemble complete.
No, I don't think this is a matter of patience. It's more like willful ignorance. You should pay attention to the trends here. Use some objectivity. I love MechWarrior too. I really wish this game would do well. But I'm not going to ignore what I see right in front of me just because of it.
I've regrettably thrown ~$200 into this game at this point, and now, I deeply regret doing so. It was a colossal waste, and I'm ashamed of myself for doing so. But no more. I haven't bought C-bills for several months, and I'm glad I stopped, as I'm now convinced that it's just a matter of months before all the money I did put into it will vanish without a trace.

Waurgrim, on 25 April 2014 - 08:02 AM, said:

Love the feedback and am happy you love the games. I love the games as well.
In the interests of providing a different point of view I'll say that I've already contributed over $300 because I too love the MechWarrior games and wanted to see a new/updated entry in the series.
That contribution included founders, phoenix and saber packages (plus more). It does not include any of the Clan packages. These previous contributions were based on my desire to see another MechWarrior game and a willingness to support PGI/IGP on the vision they laid out.
After nearly 2 years I'm not overly impressed with the progress made on the game. Not saying what is there isn't fun, but the progress towards that vision to me as a potential "investor" is not impressive. I'll not be purchasing content sight unseen any more until I see much more significant execution on the vision I originally decided to fund. Still love the MechWarrior franchise, still hope to see it succeed.
For me it's not an issue of "investing" in MechWarrior so much as an issue "investing" in PGI/IGP and their ability to execute. They got a couple rounds of funding from me. They now have to execute and earn the trust of this "investor" going forward that was originally given to them based on my fondness for MechWarrior and approval of a vision for the game they laid out.
This is just a different opinion. I hope the game succeeds and I hope to one day contribute again. PGI/IGP will have to earn that trust now instead of getting it on "blind faith".

Waurgrim, Draconis March,
TBH though I was allowed into closed beta, because of certain RL issues I barely participated and only started playing daily since January this year.
Still I play an hour or two a day and have to say I haven't gotten bored and *am* enjoying it. Though the maps are limited, every drop is indeed a different experience -- cause I only PUG.
Anyhow, the real reasons I continue to fund this game are listed above in this post and in a few of my others but basically it's because I love the MechWarrior series. MWO is no exception. That PGI is in control of the content now is a moot point to me: I want to throw money (if I have it) at a series I have loved since 1998.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Mystere, on 27 April 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

Why? Is it:




<maniacal >

Fixed for accuracy.

(And just because that picture reminded me of one of the funnier songs gifted to mankind.)

Edited by Xeno Phalcon, 27 April 2014 - 05:40 PM.

[Uncle Totty]

HeroForHire, on 27 April 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Actually the main reason I support Gold Khan sales is because I've loved Mechwarrior as a sci-fi/wargaming franchise since 1998 and just want to see it keep going and going and going.
Of course I want see to see MWO improve and all the promises kept but to be honest I have a blast each and every time I drop even with the game as it is now.
I see paying PGI for this as a fundraiser for a series I love so I'm actually not interested in the "value" of what I get for the money in this case.

So... You want the game to improve but you are happy with how it is now and happily give them money any way showing them they do not need to improve it but you want it improved though you are happy with how it is now and give them money any way showing then that they do not need to improve it...

Am I the only one seeing a pattern here?

[Pacifist]

As always Red Green has the answer to everything. Why do people like buying $500 gold packs?
http://youtu.be/3pdXkCs3ckc?t=12m10s

Edited by DarwinsDisciple, 27 April 2014 - 06:06 PM.

[a gaijin]

Nathan, I actually kinda laughed while reading your post, so thanks
Ok, so allow me to retort

Nathan K, on 27 April 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:

So... You want the game to improve

yes!

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but you are happy with how it is now

Yes

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and happily give them money any way

YES

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showing them they do not need to improve it

No, I want improvements but i apparently am MUCH more patient than others cause I've only been *really* playing since January. And I periodically send feedback, suggestions, requests through the trouble desk.

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you want it improved

Yup

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though you are happy with how it is now

Yes!

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and give them money any way

Yes

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showing then that they do not need to improve it...

No, I'm just patient. I've also told them to keep adding features, working on CW, adding more mechs and suggesting alternate play modes

[N0MAD]

Heffay, on 27 April 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Don't worry, the public universe will be available for everyone to play by the end of the year mid 2015 end of 2015 mid 2016!

Im glad you put that link up.
now let me put up a quote from that link..

[color=#96C9E6]But the team assembled at CI, the dynamic between Erin and Chris Roberts, the open-ness demonstrated at every level and the degree to which Chris Roberts is totally immersed in this project (so much so that he couldn't stop bugfixing and responding to fans when he was in front of my camera ) really made me believe they can pull this off and more importantly that they are as commited to the game as they say they are. At this stage of the development that is probably as good a prognosis as possible. [/color]

Now pls tell me what game the MWO Developer was playing on his phone during the MWO launch.?
That may explain to you why most ex MW fans are financing SC and not MWO...

[Malcolm Vordermark]

DarwinsDisciple, on 27 April 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

As always Red Green has the answer to everything. Why do people like buying $500 gold packs?
http://youtu.be/3pdXkCs3ckc?t=12m10s

Anyone who links to Red Green to give life lessons is OK in my book.

[SirLANsalot]

MrWhite, on 27 April 2014 - 12:47 AM, said:

I dunno maybe we should be thankful that our founders money went to fund MW:T which seems like it's only around to make the development cycle of Duke Nukem forever seem fast? Maybe we should be thankful that a handful of fools are willing to throw more money at more generic recycled asset boxes known as mechs? Or perhaps so we can get more unbalanced maps with clipping issues and spots where you get stuck on pebbles?

And I wish people would stop the frigging star citizen comparisons, yeah they have a thousand dollar ship but for one the game is basically at a tech demo stage and already shows more polish then this game that's been in development for how long now? And the game actually looks WORSE now then during closed beta (cause you know we gotta cater to those potato computer players since people who can't afford a semi decent video card will TOTALLY dump 500 on a mech...). But what really people forget is the Idris Corvette is something that has a crew in it, I believe a minimum of ten people with space for more, and a docking bay for two fighters. It's something an entire GUILD will buy and share... how many of your buddies can play with your 500 dollar skinned mech? Oh that's right... just you.

It makes much more sense for a guild of 20 people to toss in 50 bucks a head and buy the group a star ship, you can actually justify that...

And yeah someone purchased a 16 GRAND package... you know why? Because there are a series of games that people who were big computer nerds in the 90's grew up playing... one was mechwarrior... another was wing commander... you know what? Those people many of them now have REALLY good jobs and can afford to drop MAJOR coin on what amounts to a romp in their childhood...

THAT'S the fan base PGI alienated by constantly trying to pander to the lowest common denominator and constantly alienating the core fan base who was more then willing to throw MAJOR cash at them...

THAT'S who founders are who were sold on an emmersive hardcore battletech and mechwarrior experience and got what amounts to a buggy arena shooter, built to appeal to the casual 'CAWADOOTIE' player. And THAT'S why so many of us now say "NOPE" and pretty much will play this game and try to have some minimally viable fun before the servers get shut down and PGI goes bankrupt.

I hope you StarKhan OVERGOLDS take plenty of screen shots of your gold prizes so you have something to print out on a piece of paper and have something to show for your 500 bucks when that happens...

A reskin with recycled assets that will likely only draw a ton of fire from both the enemy and a few stray AC20 rounds 'accidentally' hitting you in the back from your own team?

Really?

And it's not even a GOOD skin I mean christ sakes at least the frigging type 59 in World of Tanks has a dragon on the side... Oh well it's not like I expected anything else.

You'd have to PAY me to get one in a drop,... not even joking...

You know what I AM thankful for? How wise my grandfather was when he said that a fool and their money are soon parted, nice to see PGI proving him right.


Oh well, at least these die hard clanners buying into this crap will have their war horns...

Pot calling the kettle black here.

I see the Founder and Overlord tags on you, means you bought into this "crap" too. I for one am happy to see a Mechwarrior game AT ******* ALL, regardless of how "bad" it may seem. Ya its been 2 years of the same thing, but Rome wasn't build in a day, and no game isn't made overnight.

Star Cit is a key in the Gaming community, as its the first full on success of pure Crowdfunding making a major title. They also have multiple studios and over 200 people working on that game. Its also aimed at high end computers, where MWO is trying for the usual "everyone" can play this game even with shit computers. Same game eng, two different target (computer) demographics. Thats why even just the Hanger looks quite epic, vs MWO mechlab looking good. Another point is MWO is giant mechs, which really do leave a lot to be desired in high resolution detailed texturing of armor, I mean you can do so much to make armor look good. Ships are a different beast entirely and are a little simpler in design then mechs, but have far more room to grow since Star Cit is something new, vs pre defined mech designs that need to be adhered to.

[Colonel Fubar]

Golden Battlemech's are so Middle Class.
Now a Platinum Timber Wolf would be much more appropriate for my 1% place in history.
Look a passage from "Bloodname (Book Two) from the Way of the Clans Trilogy" sum's it up best in regards to Golden Clan Mechs.
"Nor would warriors give their Mechs glamorous refurbishing designed to produce a breath taking and radiant Battlemech whose purpose was more to impress than to fight with efficiency."

Edited by Danny Fubar Col 21C RHG, 27 April 2014 - 07:00 PM.

[highwayman1981]

I cant believe there are over 30 pages of comments on theses things wow! I can say that if i see one pop up on my team, i am not going to tk him, but im not gonna walk beside him lol, gonna be a bullet magnet!!!! That being said, if i see one on the enemy side im soooooo gonna try to shoot him. I'm probably a whale by most of you guys standards, i got the full phoenix AND reinforcements pack,
(I started after the founders was over) i own at this moment all the heroes except for 6 of them, and i picked up the Masakari pack and have bought 50,000 mc credits. I consider myself a collector. but i cant see paying that extra cash to get one extra prime mech and some trinkets. if someone wants to spend that cash, then more power to them.
I dont mind spending the money because i play alot and with what i spend it is still cheaper than going out to the bar or casinos or most other types of entertainment, on a dollar per hour basis.
For those folks who buy the gold mechs, i sure hope you are all good pilots cause u are gonna need your skills or youre gonna be a gold lump lying in the dust. too bad we dont get more cbills for all the gold armor were gonna blow off of them

[Hexenhammer]

DarwinsDisciple, on 27 April 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

As always Red Green has the answer to everything. Why do people like buying $500 gold packs?
http://youtu.be/3pdXkCs3ckc?t=12m10s

Damn you.... Damn you Darwin! Now I'm gonna have to watch every single episode!

[Ngamok]

Merchant, on 26 April 2014 - 11:07 PM, said:

Funny, I saw the Phoenix colors and I swear they looked just like the PC Gamer colors.

The PC Gamer Colors and Phoenix colors are the same and not the same. The Hotrod black is darker than the Phoenix Black which is darker than the PC Gamer Black. The PC Gamer Grey is on the cooler side of Grey where the Phoenix Grey has a touch of yellow maybe to it. The PC Gamer Red has a touch of purple to it where the Phoenix Red has a touch of orange and the Hotrod Bright Red is a brighter red.

[Ngamok]

Ashaira, on 27 April 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

Can't envy someone for having something you don't want in the first place.

Riiiight. Because if it were $20 everyone would want one.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Alik Kerensky, on 27 April 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Why would anyone expect any details from PGI/IGP to be released publicly on their own website?!?! They haven't even bothered to tell us what a warhorn does or how the Warhawks targeting computer will work, or even show us a beta of CW... answers in order... haven't decided, have no idea, doesn't exist.

there's been a few tweets, mostly russ explaining warhorns will be like the heavy metals sound on death system and it will be swappable from mech to mech

sorry can't find the tweets they're buried somewhere.

still it's explained a bit here

and never on the forums.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 27 April 2014 - 10:12 PM.

[XViper]

Came in interested.
Saw $500.
Left immediately.
Posted here for affect.

Edited by XViper, 27 April 2014 - 10:25 PM.

[Mystere]

Ngamok, on 27 April 2014 - 09:48 PM, said:

The PC Gamer Colors and Phoenix colors are the same and not the same. The Hotrod black is darker than the Phoenix Black which is darker than the PC Gamer Black. The PC Gamer Grey is on the cooler side of Grey where the Phoenix Grey has a touch of yellow maybe to it. The PC Gamer Red has a touch of purple to it where the Phoenix Red has a touch of orange and the Hotrod Bright Red is a brighter red.

Unless people are using monitors with high quality panels (i.e. $$$) -- and regularly calibrate them -- instead of those cheap TN ones, subtle color differences do not mean much.

Edited by Mystere, 27 April 2014 - 10:50 PM.

[DirePhoenix]

SirLANsalot, on 27 April 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

Pot calling the kettle black here.

I see the Founder and Overlord tags on you, means you bought into this "crap" too. I for one am happy to see a Mechwarrior game AT ******* ALL, regardless of how "bad" it may seem. Ya its been 2 years of the same thing, but Rome wasn't build in a day, and no game isn't made overnight.

Star Cit is a key in the Gaming community, as its the first full on success of pure Crowdfunding making a major title. They also have multiple studios and over 200 people working on that game. Its also aimed at high end computers, where MWO is trying for the usual "everyone" can play this game even with shit computers. Same game eng, two different target (computer) demographics. Thats why even just the Hanger looks quite epic, vs MWO mechlab looking good. Another point is MWO is giant mechs, which really do leave a lot to be desired in high resolution detailed texturing of armor, I mean you can do so much to make armor look good. Ships are a different beast entirely and are a little simpler in design then mechs, but have far more room to grow since Star Cit is something new, vs pre defined mech designs that need to be adhered to.

I would note that Star Citizen is not a "First", rather it's the highest profile. And I wouldn't consider it a "success" yet either until they actually put out a game... which, a year and a half after their kickstarter ended, they still don't even have anything playable other than a garage/hangar in which you can only look at your ships.