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[Heffay]

Overcorrecting is a problem mouse users suffer from as well. Having mouse movements control both the attitude of the ship and the aim of the weapons makes the controls very sloppy. Once you start chasing a target and finally get the crosshairs on him, the ship starts to rotate in that direction and you need to follow it back. It's not a very good system right now.

That really needs to be decoupled. Keyboard or joystick controls the ship, mouse controls the aiming.

[CeeKay Boques]

So I can play this for 5 bucks?

[Egomane]

I'm doing pretty well in the AC with my T.16000M. Reaching wave 11 regularly in the Vanduul Swarm scenario. I haven't tried the mouse and keyboard controls yet and I probably never will.

I couldn't care less what input method someone currently is prefering, as long as they are all equal when the game is released. Until then it is all testing and adjusting.

Most of the arguing on the CIG boards of which method needs to be primary control theme is black or white. Nearly everyone wants either M/K or joysticks favored over the other. The levelheaded ones in those arguments get mostly ignored.

[Corbenik]

ShinVector, on 04 June 2014 - 12:18 AM, said:

Need to correct you there. This is the first public release... People are jumping up in enjoy...
Do recall what was initial intention to release back in Dec 2013 and they are releasing now 6 months later. I think the number of game modes is going to make you.. COUGH !!

Edit: Wanted to add...
OMG... An official 29 page User Guide !! *Rubs salt in wound...
https://robertsspace...-Guide-V0-8.pdf

Thank but I meant once the game officially goes Live, and new people trickle in and Game Habits start forming causing changes and whine from one side or another , Dont get me wrong game sounds looks nice but we all know there is always going to be those Eccentric Loud people xD

[Heffay]

Technoviking, on 06 June 2014 - 07:03 AM, said:

So I can play this for 5 bucks?

If you have alpha access from earlier, you can play for free. Right now there is only 1 game mode (Vanduul swarm), and single player only. If you didn't get a game package, you can buy a pass for $5, but... it's probably better to hold off for now. It won't give you a very good first impression in its current state.

[Vassago Rain]

Technoviking, on 06 June 2014 - 07:03 AM, said:

So I can play this for 5 bucks?

Yes, the doge fightan pass is only 5 dorrah.

[Green Mamba]

Heffay, on 06 June 2014 - 07:41 AM, said:

If you have alpha access from earlier, you can play for free. Right now there is only 1 game mode (Vanduul swarm), and single player only. If you didn't get a game package, you can buy a pass for $5, but... it's probably better to hold off for now. It won't give you a very good first impression in its current state.

2 game Modes Counting Free Flight(Training)
..LOL on the NOT Very good First Impression

Edited by Green Mamba, 06 June 2014 - 11:46 AM.

[Iqfish]

Green Mamba, on 06 June 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

2 game Modes Counting Free Flight(Training)
..LOL on the NOT Very good First Impression

Are you even trying?!

My god, how stubborn can people be T.T

[Heffay]

Green Mamba, on 06 June 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

2 game Modes Counting Free Flight(Training)
..LOL on the NOT Very good First Impression

If Star Citizen has 2 game modes, then technically MWO has 5.

[Green Mamba]

Heffay, on 06 June 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:

If Star Citizen has 2 game modes, then technically MWO has 5.

You can Select 2 different Modes in Star Citizen.Vandul Swarm and Free Flight

Iqfish, on 06 June 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

Are you even trying?!

My god, how stubborn can people be T.T

Sorry, but I am not Understanding your Question.I thought the Game is Great for a Pre Alpha

[Heffay]

Green Mamba, on 06 June 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

You can Select 2 different Modes in Star Citizen.Vandul Swarm and Free Flight

In MWO, you can select Assault, Skirmish, Conquest, Training Grounds or Tutorial.

[Green Mamba]

Heffay, on 06 June 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

In MWO, you can select Assault, Skirmish, Conquest, Training Grounds or Tutorial.

Lipstick On a Pig Comes to Mind

[Mister Blastman]

Heffay, on 06 June 2014 - 06:57 AM, said:

Overcorrecting is a problem mouse users suffer from as well. Having mouse movements control both the attitude of the ship and the aim of the weapons makes the controls very sloppy. Once you start chasing a target and finally get the crosshairs on him, the ship starts to rotate in that direction and you need to follow it back. It's not a very good system right now.

That really needs to be decoupled. Keyboard or joystick controls the ship, mouse controls the aiming.

I guess you've never flown any flight simulators or space simulators for that matter that properly model inertia. If you had... then Star Citizen would seem natural to you.

My only small complaint about it so far is the deadzone is far too big. I have the deadzone on my HOTAS turned off. There is no deadzone. Arena Commander still forces me to have a big one which is frustrating but I can deal with it just fine.

Go fly some DCS: Black Shark and get back to me afterwards. Star Citizen will seem like cake then. Helocopters have notoriously sluggish controls. In fact, even the F-18 has sluggish controls. Watch numerous in-cockpit videos on Youtube of pilots in these jets. They'll push the stick and then a half second later the jet will finally respond.

[Egomane]

I'm now getting to wave 15 regularly.

The trick is to eject if the fighter is badly damaged.

Normaly you only get two respawns in the Vanduul swarm. Everytime you die, one of those respawns is subtracted. Once your third fighter dies, it's game over.

But if you eject, the respawn count is not adjusted. You get a fresh fighter and are able to get back into the fight as often as you need.

Usually I get to wave ten or eleven in my first fighter before I have to eject for the very first time. After that it depends mostly on how long my wingman manage to survive against the far superior Vanduul fighters. So far both of them always died before the final wave, which makes that one very, very tough to beat.

[Iqfish]

Green Mamba, on 06 June 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Sorry, but I am not Understanding your Question.I thought the Game is Great for a Pre Alpha

Wooops, got you completely wrong, sorry.

[Green Mamba]

Iqfish, on 06 June 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

Wooops, got you completely wrong, sorry.

My Fault I should have explained more..I was Being Sarcastic to Heffey (Markemp)

[Heffay]

Well, the 2 TNGS finalist ships are in everyone's hangar, and everyone got upgraded to the Deluxe one (I'm assuming temporarily). The good news is the new ships are pretty sharp looking, although everything is pretty dark and muddy as far as looks. The bad news is my Connie is a 15 minute walk away from the starting area... ugh.

[Dymlos2003]

Ive yet to be able to launch.

[AUSSIETROOPER4]

Game is really good fun. Just flew my hornet to level 5.

[Heffay]

Well, glad I'm not the only one who is having problems with the control system. Even the guy who created it says he can't play the game with the current control system, and is trying to tweak it to be more responsive:

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I personally cannot play the game as it was released.

https://forums.rober...Comment_2722695

Hope they figure these out, because sacrificing fun for realism is not a good long term strategy.