312 replies to this topic

[Aesaar]

Valron, on 20 June 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Founders mechs only give a 25% c-bill boost, sadly no xp boost

My mistake. Still, reinforces the point.

[Dead Winter Dead]

OP I can understand but in the end if you don't feel this purchase is right for you then you are not focred to buy anything from them.

[Chet Manley]

Well, to play devils advocate for a second.

There is always the possiblity that this could turn out a total bust. True the devs keep in close contact with the community. And, truer still, everything we've seen(or I've seen at least) looks fantastic. But, we havn't delved into the final product yet.

It boils down to if your willing to weigh the risks and still jump onboard.

I was. But then... I also ended up dumping about $160 into STO when it first came out......

[Shatter Shot]

I bought the 120 dollar package... I wanted the stuff and I want badly for this game to be a hit.

With that said, if they screw it up.. Will probably spell their end.

[Mchawkeye]

You know...you are complaining about something that is optional, right? the only person that is making you pay any money is you.

We are buying the founders because we like the look of the game. we like how the devs have been communicating with us, and presenting the product. We recognise that they are making a F2P model, which may not be the most profitable a way to make a product, so we support them in this way.

The value in the founders packs is entirely of your own opinion. I think it's a good deal, and I am happy to be part of a community that think, perhaps, just perhaps, people trying to make something for us should be thanked. they put in their time and dedication, I don;t feel it's completely inappropriate for them to ask us if we want to support them.

It's been said before in this thread, but its so important I think it's worth reiterating:

No one is making you buy anything. your choice.

[CW Grayson]

No need to bash the OP, when you cool down a bit there are some legit questions about the topic.
With a collector's edition, you usually have some reviews from magazines etc. so you know a bit about the game you're buying.
Here you have near nothing. As said, what if the game will be absolutely *censored* ?
I have faith that the devs will make us a very good mechgame and probalby will buy a founders pack also, but you can never be sure with only so few info yet.

[Zolaz]

Dealers will always sell crack heads more crack, just be a responsible crack head.

[Helvetica]

if you want to play for free when it launches fine. No problem. But free to play games is a misleading name. nothing is free ever... This is the first pay day these guys have gotten in the total work done and you for thinking that effort isn't worth money?

Sorry but i want this game to last a long long time. So i support it. It cost me £80 which about the same as a collectors edition of which you get less than the founders pack.

Edited by Helvetica, 20 June 2012 - 03:34 AM.

[hostile intent]

I love Battle tech I support this service/product

Vet tags ftw i am glad i went for the Vet pack not many people here in blue which means we are more unique WOOt lol

[Skarhedin]

You have to have faith in the developer doing justice to the brand, I am a die hard mech fan so for me it was an easy choice to pay some money. I have spent 50 -60 $ on games that turned out to be pieces of crap, you never really know what your buying till you get it. I live in a small town in British Columbia and when Mechwarrior 2 Came out I spent 129.00 on it from the local computer store. I have no problem spending 60.00 $ for this.

[Nightmurk]

Honestly I feel that investing abit on the game the communities way of showing some form of support for the game. In essence if my money is actually contributing to the fact that the devs might create a better game than I am all for it.

If anyone who is a battletech fan remembered, FASA tried to make a F2P mech game a long time ago that was in open beta and the thing was SCRAPPED pre-release. I would have gladly paid for the game if the circumstances of the scrap was due to a lack of funding.

my 2 cents

[Valron]

Aesaar, on 20 June 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

My mistake. Still, reinforces the point.

No worries man between the subscription bonuses and the mech bonuses it can get a bit confusing

[Thale Hypotenuse]

CW Grayson, on 20 June 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

No need to bash the OP, when you cool down a bit there are some legit questions about the topic.
With a collector's edition, you usually have some reviews from magazines etc. so you know a bit about the game you're buying.

Considering how early pre-orders go up nowadays and how collectors eds allocations sell out so quickly most games don't show much more, if that than what we have been shown of MWO from all the articles, dev blogs and videos here

[Revein]

I guess they will earn money from ppl buying "skins" and ppl not wanna farm to buy the new mechs they gonna release on monthly basis. The real money is used for ppl wanna get stuff faster and cosmetics. Think or lookup the League of legends model, think it will work well in this game

[Carl Wrede]

If you dont like it then just dont pay and move along instead of trashtalk it.

[Chuckie]

Thale Hypotenuse, on 20 June 2012 - 02:35 AM, said:

Don't give them any money then

Exactly.. you don't have to give money.

OP.. seriously think how much effort and money has been put into this game with $0 resulting income.. (OK maybe a few dollars off the GDC t-shirts that MIGHT had been enough for the Beers on play testing night.)

IN SHORT NO ONE... is making you pay ANYTHING..

Russ Bullock, on 19 June 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

....... we don't want any of your money unless you meant to spend it.

Although taken a bit out of context here. I can ASSURE you Russ (and PGI as a whole) doesn't want you to buy anything you don't want to..

Think once the game goes live you can play the FULL Version for FREE, No 2 level demo, no nerfed Multi-player, etc.. THE FULL GAME and if what they have told us is to be believed (and I can't imagine it any other way) you will be able to grind for C-Bills and get whatever anyone spending money can get. So it will be TOTALLY FREE..

So really what the heck are you complaining about..? That a few others like ourselves that truly appreciate what PGI and IGP have done, will gladly support them with a $120 gift for a few electronic collectible trinkets..?

I mean in reality for those of us spending the $120 we are giving them a Gift of only $40 (IF you don't count the electronic trinkets - 4 Mechs / and Badges and such which do have an intrinsic value, not to mention if you WANTED to buy those 4 mechs they would have a $ value to you then ).

That said, IF you go Elite THEY ARE GIVING YOU $20 !! Because they are giving you a $20 BONUS when the game launches for your $60 now. So there blows the "money grab" thing out of the water.

Anyway, I look at it as an investment. The packages are called "FOUNDER" packages for a reason.. and I am kind of honored they would use such a term.

founder — n - a person who establishes an institution, company, society, etc

IGP and PGI I am sure have their investors who want a return on investment, and as much as they have spent on the game to this point, I am sure as they get closer to launch they both could use an infusion of more cash.

Us helping them is one way, and the other is by showing how many supporters they have now willing to spend money will show new investors they are on to something. All so they can afford the larger server banks to get the game running as smoothly and flawlessly as possible when they launch. Those server farms don't buy themselves, and they aren't cheap.

I hope this is the last one of these types of posts from people that think for some reason they are "entitled" to everything for free or something.. and ungrateful for the work others put in for them.

Edited by Chuckie, 20 June 2012 - 04:10 AM.

[BlackSquirrel]

You mean to tell me a business examined their consumer base, and sold a product based upon that?

Selling to the "hardcore"... Um yeah everyone does this in nearly every business. (Some people really into their hobby or product will pay more to get "luxury") Think of it as a luxury edition. (Some people pay more for heated seats...God those are awesome btw)
Now then if the game suddenly fails in 2-3 months before it's release...Well that's kinda on us or our lawyers in the class action lawsuit we start.

Also I think they're following more the tribes ascend model...

[Antaumus]

Money, the reason I go to work, if I got no money I wouldn't go to work. Do you work for free? "It's ok boss I don't want to money grab don't bother with my paycheck". And secondly I didn't have a gun to my head when I clicked buy on the legendary pack, quiet the opposite I had to ask my wife, so more a gun to my head not too. It's also not a preorder it's investing in a game that we have been waiting for almost half my life. I would have payed for it if you got nothing but a thank you. I think bonus mechs, in game money etc is a nice thanks.

[DigitalReign]

I see this as an investment in an IP that I have enjoyed for years.

If the backers see that enough preorders are going out, then maybe they will not push this product to the street before it is ready. We have seen way too many products lately have growing pains due to being released too early.

The F2P model means that you need to release soon because you need to get those microtransactions, you don't get the initial bump that a traditional MMO would see and many times you are not going to get the initial purchase of in game currency.

Hi-Rez seems to be doing well with the same model.

[abetterpilot]

someone has been pumping $$ into this for way more than 1 year now. I for one just out of sheer curiosity would love to see total costs for the last year, everything from personnel to office rental, utilities ect ect.
I think any way you guess ta mate how much is being raised by this offer it can not be anywhere near enough.
not everyone will buy a package and of those nowhere near all will be top tier. The developers profit im guessing is way down the road after paying off investors, finally owning most of the needed hardware, and having at least a few years of steady paying customers under the belt.