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[Kinski Orlawisch]

The Bonus stuff and that you know that you financed these mechs.

....but for shure this timeline can delete some preorder. When you get them für C Bills in 2 month...why spent a lot of money for preorder?

Doesn t matter for me. I ordered all. I can customize em already. Seeing the timeline now is for the Free to Play gamer a nice gesture.

Good idea PGI.

I wish we could get the same timeline for:
1. new maps release shedule.
2. new gamemodes
3. Community Warfare

4..and there are 8 Omnimechs missing..and all 2nd Line Clan mechs.

[S3dition]

Sidekick, on 16 May 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

So.. this means no IS mech until december?

Sigh... See you in 2015, I guess. By this schedule, I will be driving my Nimiz around in WarThunder before I get to play MWO the way it was advertised to me.

You're seriously going to whine about the number of IS mechs? Seriously? There are 29 unique chassis types so far. Clans aren't even allowed to have 12?

[Shikata nai]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 16 May 2014 - 04:08 PM, said:

To those who are wondering about other Mechs: Assuming no hiccups in testing or conflicts in release strategy, we still hope to have our usual week one Hero Mech releases and week three Mech of the Month releases each month alongside the Clan Mech releases.

To those who have mentioned concerns regarding how the Clans will affect the game: We can only find out once we get there, This schedule will hopefully help you decide whether you want to pre-order some a la carte or by collection now, or await the release of them later.

To those eager for more information about the Clan Mechs themselves: We hope to address more concerns like these in the coming weeks, along with presenting more screenshots and we even have a teaser in the works!

Most of this seems reasonable. Still i dont know why it takes so damn long to just release at least the Variants we can expect which is the biggest deal besides the Clan-Tech and placing such an announcment isn't a big deal really! Except you dont know yourself yet which would be absolutely devastating imho.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Zerberus, on 17 May 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

All I see here is a lot of whining by space poors and black knights.

Seriously, it`s all either "I can`t afford to pay for teh game, give them to me for free, NOW" or "It`s PGI, it HAS to suck, for reasons that I`ll imagine while I type this post." In most cases, neither care about actual facts, so any form of discourse is just helping them waste time and bandwidth.

Yet the solutions to your problems are so simple it`s stupid:

1. If you`re that poor, get a job. Maybe stop playing video games altogether and do somethign useful with your life, instead.

2. If you`re that disillusioned, get a life. Nobody is forcing you to play this game, or any other game, and your rage could easily be channeled to something productive. You obviously don`t see any light at the end of the tunnel (even if it is becasue your eyes are closed), and your incessant "I want this game to succeed despite my concerted efforts to actively contribute to it`s failure" schtick got old long before Phoenix was released, and that`s why nobody is listening to you anyway. So just save yourself whiile you still can.

and you spent time and bandwidth on that? get a life

remember...



still buying?

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 17 May 2014 - 12:43 AM.

[Zerberus]

Touché, Mon ami

[Sidekick]

Ah, I misunderstood the statement regarding the normal (IS) mech release schedule. I read it like "Only Hero/Champion mechs".

Lets see how this unfolds.

[Osirustwits]

Cathy, on 16 May 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

How they did the phoenix packages, but it hardly effects me, as I shall be either playing I.S mechs killing clan traitor slavers or long gone if/when the balance is screwed up by clan weapons

Traitors you say hmmmmm perhaps you don't see the Klan has always been among you

[Desintegrator]

Great, that there is a timeline for the release of the Mechs for C-bills and MC. First time I see something like that.
Great that they have a plan...

And everybody who complains about that you can buy this Mechs for C-Bills to should remember the cost of the Clan-Mechs!!
I would expect the Daishi to cost 30.000.000 C-bills for a single Mech -> that would be 90.000.000 for all three to get them Mastered. Therefore you need at least a few hours of playing to get that C-bills...even for that Mechs.

[Steel Fox GB]

Can't wait to get my hands on a Dire Wolf.

[Rubidiy]

Sidekick, on 16 May 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

So.. this means no IS mech until december?

Sigh... See you in 2015, I guess. By this schedule, I will be driving my Nimiz around in WarThunder before I get to play MWO the way it was advertised to me.

It was stated months ago, that IS mechs are going to be released alongside with Clan mechs. Given PGI's record of keeping promises, it still cann't be guaranteed. This schedule does hint that we're going to wait for IS mechs, but it does not mean we won't have 'em at all. Please be realistic. ATM PGI's working on Clanmechs, on Clan tech and omnimech game design. These have to be released by june 17th. IS mechs are going to appear in upcoming months only if their creation and implementation are already finished.
TBH I don't see reasons for complaining about it at all. On the contrary, this schedule benefits to everyone except for those who always find reasons to complain.

Here're reasons to love this schedule:

1. People, who preordered Clan mechs, get early access.
2. People, who want to buy with MCs will be able to do so in 4 months instead of 8.
3. People, who want to buy with C-bills will be able to do so in 5 months instead of 8.
4. CW won't be released earlier than in October. By that time there will be plenty of Clanmechs at players' disposal.
5. IS mechs are getting repetitive. The only mech we really need is an assault 'mech to rival Daishi.
6. During upcoming months not only we'll get some new mechs, we'll get new weapons, new ommnimech building rules. These are real game content. Something that's gonna bring new gaming experience.

Edited by Rubidiy, 17 May 2014 - 06:52 AM.

[vash021]

Desintegrator, on 17 May 2014 - 01:10 AM, said:

Great, that there is a timeline for the release of the Mechs for C-bills and MC. First time I see something like that.
Great that they have a plan...

And everybody who complains about that you can buy this Mechs for C-Bills to should remember the cost of the Clan-Mechs!!
I would expect the Daishi to cost 30.000.000 C-bills for a single Mech -> that would be 90.000.000 for all three to get them Mastered. Therefore you need at least a few hours of playing to get that C-bills...even for that Mechs.

30m cbills for one clan mech??
are they made out of gold??

that is seriously absurd

[Pariah Devalis]

Rubidiy, on 17 May 2014 - 01:22 AM, said:

5. IS mechs are getting repetitive. The only mech we really need is an assault 'mech to rival Daishi.

Makes you wonder. Is the Mauler up to the task? How about the Devastator? King Crab, even? Certainly the Zeus is not up to it.

[Desintegrator]

vash021, on 17 May 2014 - 01:27 AM, said:

30m cbills for one clan mech??
are they made out of gold??

that is seriously absurd

A single Atlas Mech costs around ~ 10.000.000 C-bills. Clan Tech is much more expensive...(Mech itself + also weapons).
Therefore I "expect" that a 100 ton Daishi would cost around ~ 30.000.000 Cbills.

Other Clan Mechs will be cheaper though the have less tonnage, but you can also expect "high" prices which are far above of what you would pay for IS Mechs - like for a Hunchback or JägerMech.

[vash021]

Desintegrator, on 17 May 2014 - 01:43 AM, said:

A single Atlas Mech costs around ~ 10.000.000 C-bills. Clan Tech is much more expensive...(Mech itself + also weapons).
Therefore I "expect" that a 100 ton Daishi would cost around ~ 30.000.000 Cbills.

Other Clan Mechs will be cheaper though the have less tonnage, but you can also expect "high" prices which are far above of what you would pay for IS Mechs - like for a Hunchback or JägerMech.

so first clan mech is at august
currently i have 5m cb i guess its ample time to get those cb's

i thought he was pulling my leg or something

anything above 30m cb is just plain greedy 20 - 25 m should be the most expensive

Edited by vash021, 17 May 2014 - 01:46 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Would not be surprised if they get price adjusted. That said, I do not believe Clan weapons actually cost more. I mean, my memory can be faulty, but the increased cost goes along with the more advanced XL engine and smaller endo/ferro, and the table-top inflated values of all Omnimechs by 25%. That 25% increase might as well not exist in this game.

[Xephan]

@Nikolai Lubkiewicz

Thx for the info, If you can pass this along for the next time you guys run a package deal.

If you released all the info at the same time as the announcement of the packages I think you would see
a much stronger positive response to pre-ordering in general.

[Grey Death Storm]

Waylandx, on 16 May 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Such a long time away...

Ill finish you sentence for you

Such a long time away... "In a Galaxy Far Far Far Far Away !"

Edited by Death Storm, 17 May 2014 - 02:16 AM.

[Zerberus]

vash021, on 17 May 2014 - 01:27 AM, said:

30m cbills for one clan mech??
are they made out of gold??

that is seriously absurd

vash021, on 17 May 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

so first clan mech is at august
currently i have 5m cb i guess its ample time to get those cb's

i thought he was pulling my leg or something

anything above 30m cb is just plain greedy 20 - 25 m should be the most expensive

Almost all ingame prices are based on the black market prices listed by Sarna /taken from the TROs.

The also ALL have improved XL engines, DHS, and most have FF and /or Endo.. that`s a few million right there that you no longer have to add on to the mech`s base cost, in contrast to the IS mechs we run today.

OH, and they are OMNIMECHS. L2 technology.

By your reasoning, a Porsche should cost roughly the same as a VW beetle.

Deal with it.

Edited by Zerberus, 17 May 2014 - 02:27 AM.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Zerberus, on 17 May 2014 - 02:18 AM, said:

Almost all ingame prices are based on the black market prices listed by Sarna /taken from the TROs.

The also ALL have improved XL engines, DHS, and most have FF and /or Endo.. that`s a few million right there that you no longer have to add on to the mech`s base cost, in contrast to the IS mechs we run today.

OH, and they are OMNIMECHS. L2 technology.

By your reasoning, a Porsche should cost roughly the same as a VW beetle.

Deal with it.

the funny thing is you are doing extra grind to meet these extra expenses for items that the devs want to be fighting toe to toe comparatively with the IS mechs. so really the extra expense is for clan skins because from hardpoint swapping to the equipment itself the devs want it to balance against the equivelent IS. so is tech level even relevent now? is it worth the extra cost? unless pgi confirms that the matchmaker will take into account that clans will be more powerfull than IS equivelents then it means that clans and IS are equal, balanced yet cost more.

that porsche is stuck with speed limiters and the beetle just got a nitros pack but is still cheaper. that's what it looks like at the moment.

[SirLANsalot]

GalaxyBluestar, on 17 May 2014 - 02:47 AM, said:

the funny thing is you are doing extra grind to meet these extra expenses for items that the devs want to be fighting toe to toe comparatively with the IS mechs. so really the extra expense is for clan skins because from hardpoint swapping to the equipment itself the devs want it to balance against the equivelent IS. so is tech level even relevent now? is it worth the extra cost? unless pgi confirms that the matchmaker will take into account that clans will be more powerfull than IS equivelents then it means that clans and IS are equal, balanced yet cost more.

that porsche is stuck with speed limiters and the beetle just got a nitros pack but is still cheaper. that's what it looks like at the moment.

If we were using Sarna Pricing thats pulled from the books. The Atlas-K would be costing 20million C-bills instead of the 13million it is now.


PGI has cut the prices on the mechs down by 30ish%. So the Big Bad Daishi isn't going to be that massive of a pill to swallow that people have been thinking about. Its going to be around 20million C-bills instead of its near 30.