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#281 Novakaine

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:24 PM

There is truly nothing worse than a egotistical nitwit.
I was'nt going to bother to post in this thread.
But I gotta keep my average up.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:35 PM

You're all fired.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:36 PM

View PostPraetor Knight, on 27 May 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

I figure this question is appropriate given the back and forth. And I haven't read the whole thread at this point either, but meh I'll share anyway. ;)

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is this a multiple choice quiz?

#284 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:39 PM

View PostPraetor Knight, on 27 May 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

I figure this question is appropriate given the back and forth. And I haven't read the whole thread at this point either, but meh I'll share anyway. ;)


Not reading the entire thread is obviously an issue at this point, because tryhards have tried to bury this thread in petty insults and memes to hide the truth. I'm not looking for followers, and this isn't a popularity contest because I knew going harpooning for whales wasn't going to be easy, but you might as well call me Standard Oil at this point son.

It's about sending a message, and why they're so agitated is because I've sent it loud and clear.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:40 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 27 May 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

is this a multiple choice quiz?


It's an open your mind type exercise.

Ala Kuato from Total Recall.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:43 PM

Did the mech3 or mech4 teams ever blame their playerbase for bad game design choices? Did they struggle to make a good game because of a "toxic community?"

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:47 PM

View Postlockwoodx, on 27 May 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:


Not reading the entire thread is obviously an issue at this point, because tryhards have tried to bury this thread in petty insults and memes to hide the truth. I'm not looking for followers, and this isn't a popularity contest because I knew going harpooning for whales wasn't going to be easy, but you might as well call me Standard Oil at this point son.

It's about sending a message, and why they're so aggressive is because I've sent it loud and clear.



I gloss over and try to ignore the insults and goading, when it's just a sea of that in a thread, I lose interest in reading further.

I'd rather try to be constructive and at least be as lighthearted as possible, since we all are basically in similar situations, waiting for MWO to be developed further.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:14 PM

View PostColonel Pada Vinson, on 27 May 2014 - 01:43 PM, said:

Did the mech3 or mech4 teams ever blame their playerbase for bad game design choices? Did they struggle to make a good game because of a "toxic community?"


Uhm, no. Did they care for "their" community anyway? They delivered singleplayer games and that's it. When the games were, basicaly they were done.

We had to endure MW3s netcode from start to end. It was really funny to aim 2 to 4 mechlengths before enemys and use the force to guess possible changes of direction.

And MW4 had the same Jumpsnipers and not more mechs or maps then MWO, when it was released. Did they give us more? Did they ask anyone about their opinion? Nope. The good things in MW4 were created by the community, especially MekTek, without any "officials" doing anything.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:23 PM

View Postlockwoodx, on 27 May 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:


It's about sending a message, and why they're so agitated is because I've sent it loud and clear.

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Actually, here's the right picture on all this regarding messages:

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:35 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 27 May 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

I am very surprised this isn't in K-town yet.


I know man I called it like pages and pages ago, I guess they aren't done letting people tell the OP how wrong he is. :P

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:40 PM

View PostAgent of Change, on 27 May 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:


I know man I called it like pages and pages ago, I guess they aren't done letting people tell the OP how wrong he is. :P

you got the Welcome Package ready anyhow? ;)

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It's pretty hilarious that the OP misses the irony of using the image of this character to demonstrate how clear a message he had to send.....

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 04:43 PM

I could have swore I made this observation already but perhaps I typed and didn't press enter.

The OP makes three false assumptions in his theory
1 - all meta players are tryhards
2 - all tryhards are d-bags
3 - all in-game d-bags are tryhards.

And those observations can be mixed and matched.

There's a meta in every successful game. There's d-bags in every successful game. There's tryhards in every successful game. Yet there are still successful MMO/e-sport/MOBA/FPS, etc. games despite these shortcomings. What sets MWO apart is it's severe learning curve, and its stale development path.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 04:46 PM

Welcome home thread, it's been a while since I've ridden one of you down here.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:53 PM

Oh you poor poor

thread

I knew

you'd find

your way home

you even get an

original

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Guten Tag from Bird Land!

KAETETôã

is where you have landed

You are here because your thread was bad

and needed to be made better

WE do that here.

In fact our tireless threadsmiths

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to improve the badness you tried to

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Now before you think this be

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Sacred Pages penned by the MODS themselves

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:59 PM

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To lockwoodx and friends.

your premise was bad

your thread was bad.

and now

you are mine

to play with

in fact

let me start the festivities.

A visual representation of this thread.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:01 PM

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:31 PM

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 07:58 PM

So agent - you really one of those who believe that it is not worth fixing the problems with the game?

I find that hard to believe

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:09 PM

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:25 PM

View PostShar Wolf, on 27 May 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

So agent - you really one of those who believe that it is not worth fixing the problems with the game?

I find that hard to believe

That would be on topic

I will

respond

in a legitimate thread

for now

more op impressions

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