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[xeromynd]

Hey guys, here's my rig, not built for gaming to begin with, but I was under the impression I would at least have the power to run MWO on Medium-High detail without glitches (even without AA).
Is there a bottleneck here that's limiting my graphics capabilities?


My specs:

Intel i7-960
24GB RAM
Rampage III Formula MB
Nvidia GTX 550 Ti
Samsung 840 EVO (Rapid Mode0 <- MWO Installed here

[ninjitsu]

do you know what kind of fps you are getting? the 550 ti video card isn't the strongest.

[CMetz]

Yeah, my guess is that you are GPU bottlenecked. At least that is the one component that jumped out at me.

Also, define what you feel to be poor FPS-

I run a GTX770 with an AMD board. I'm slightly bottlenecked by my older chipset and mobo, and maybe ever so slightly by my processor, but I run everything on highest settings with MSAA and I get around 40 fps.

[FORGE88]

first of all ur CPU 960? you mean i74960x ? or i7 3960x ? the graphics card is too weak for even high settings , unless you are using 24GB of really old ram, but i doubt that. id suggest atleast a evga gtx670 sc for high settings, if you want very high then a nvidia gtx770 at the least. trust me ive been through alot of cards in the last two years i am currently using a superclocked overclocked evga gtx titan sc and i get 150-160 fps on very high DX11 MSAA.

[ninjitsu]

FORGE88, on 15 June 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

first of all ur CPU 960? you mean i74960x ? or i7 3960x ? the graphics card is too weak for even high settings , unless you are using 24GB of really old ram, but i doubt that. id suggest atleast a evga gtx670 sc for high settings, if you want very high then a nvidia gtx770 at the least. trust me ive been through alot of cards in the last two years i am currently using a superclocked overclocked evga gtx titan sc and i get 150-160 fps on very high DX11 MSAA.

LOL, no, he means the i7-960. http://www.cpubenchm...960+%40+3.20GHz

[FORGE88]

**** well there is ur issue right there dude that is a very weak CPU for gaming and MWO uses alot of cpu resources i was previously running a i7 2600k at 4.8Ghz and that still could not handle MWO on very high, i suggest either playing on low with medium textures , or getting a complete gaming rig. at this point CPU upgrade or GPU will not help, you need CPU + mobo + gpu upgrade. to get 60fps on very high / high

[Neil Diamond]

FORGE88, on 15 June 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

first of all ur CPU 960? you mean i74960x ? or i7 3960x ? the graphics card is too weak for even high settings , unless you are using 24GB of really old ram, but i doubt that. id suggest atleast a evga gtx670 sc for high settings, if you want very high then a nvidia gtx770 at the least. trust me ive been through alot of cards in the last two years i am currently using a superclocked overclocked evga gtx titan sc and i get 150-160 fps on very high DX11 MSAA.

His is the old Bloomfield i7.

[Goose]

3.2GHz is Problematic, I fear, and protecting all the cash you have in memory and dat motherboard calls for ether overclocking, and/ or scrounging up a Gulftown with an "X" in it's name …

[ninjitsu]

980x for only $300! http://www.ebay.com/...=item2ed2d31af2

[Goose]

57 and one star?

Only $300

[Odins Fist]

xeromynd, on 15 June 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Why Can't I Run Mwo At Good Graphic Levels?

ANSWER: GTX 550 Ti

It was a budget card when it came out a few years back..
Budget cards have much lower longevity in terms of gaming.

[ninjitsu]

Odins Fist, on 15 June 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

ANSWER: GTX 550 Ti

It was a budget card when it came out a few years back..
Budget cards have much lower longevity in terms of gaming.

I agree!

[DAYLEET]

FORGE88, on 15 June 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

**** well there is ur issue right there dude that is a very weak CPU for gaming

My cpu is an i7 860 which is slightly worse than his but i have a R9 280X and i only go down to 49 when the world end like multiple arty, getting hit by lrm,balistic,lasers all at once, usualy im in high sixties and seventies while brawling.

I did put post processing on low because it blurs image and i not using any anti aliasing because it blurs the textures too, everything else is highest possible.

Im thinking he needs to get a decent video card.

Edit: i run battlefield 4 everythin on ultra but again post processing on low and AA on low too, ive upped Resolution Scale from 100% to 150% and that makes such a big difference quality wise, im holding pretty steady 60fps, sometimes higher and i dip briefly when all hell break loose but that never last more than a few sec.

Edited by DAYLEET, 15 June 2014 - 12:37 PM.

[ninjitsu]

Yeah, the CPU isn't terrible, forge just likes to flail his epeen around.

[Iqfish]

FORGE88, on 15 June 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

first of all ur CPU 960? you mean i74960x ? or i7 3960x ?

Tehehehe..

That says it all. The CPU is so old, people don't even remember it's existence

[CPL Madison]

xeromynd, on 15 June 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Hey guys, here's my rig, not built for gaming to begin with, but I was under the impression I would at least have the power to run MWO on Medium-High detail without glitches (even without AA).
Is there a bottleneck here that's limiting my graphics capabilities?


My specs:

Intel i7-960
24GB RAM
Rampage III Formula MB
Nvidia GTX 550 Ti
Samsung 840 EVO (Rapid Mode0 <- MWO Installed here

after reading a few posts I thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth. You absolutely dont need to upgrade your CPU and buy a whole new system. Get yourself another 550ti and SLI them

cheapest solution and you will get much better performance, people in my clan are running GTX260 in sli and getting good results, absolutely not reason to get a top end card to run this crap

[Smokeyjedi]

Iqfish, on 15 June 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

Tehehehe..

That says it all. The CPU is so old, people don't even remember it's existence

LOL except for Intels upgrade paths allow 10-15% improvement @ best per generation of chip. LOL so 4 generations of I7, =40% IPC improvement so OC that 960???? if it is unlocked??? and Clearly replace that GPU with 2+gb 256-bit GDDR5 card

[Iqfish]

Smokeyjedi, on 15 June 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

LOL except for Intels upgrade paths allow 10-15% improvement @ best per generation of chip. LOL so 4 generations of I7, =40% IPC improvement so OC that 960???? if it is unlocked??? and Clearly replace that GPU with 2+gb 256-bit GDDR5 card

LOL the performance jump between first generation i-CPUs is much bigger than the 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

Yes, he also needs a new GPU.

But with this CPU EVERYTHING above a HD 7870 would be bottlenecked by the CPU

[xeromynd]

ninjitsu, on 15 June 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

I agree!

Really? That's a damn shame then. I purchased the 550 Ti at the start of this build, and wasn't really into hardcore PC gaming at the time (we're talking Jedi Knight and Earthsiege), so the $120 price tag on the 550 Ti was rather appealing. I also saw decent reviews on it. Now you've got me thinking of upgrading to a newer 760/770 as of later, I did fear it might be my GPU.

From what I've gathered, running a PCI 3 card in a PCI 2 lane isn't supposed to be problematic, or be detrimental to performance.

Re: my CPU. I understand my CPU is rather old now (mega-sigh). Unfortunately I only built this system around 3 1/2 years ago, but (like always seems to happen) it was literally right before they decided to introduce the 2nd gen i7's. RAM is good, just upgraded not too long ago.

The thing that blows the most about my build is the marvel SATA 6.0 controllers on my motherboard which are absolute balls. Most all consensus on the Rampage III Forumla is that these controllers run SLOWER than SATA 3.0 controllers, so naturally I don't use them. So in order to use proper SATA controllers on a better board (Intel controllers preferably) I'd have to upgrade the board, CPU (outdated socket), and RAM (triple channel doesn't seem to be as popular anymore) and that's a headache for my wallet.

So i guess my plan will be to get a new GPU now (770, 760?) and save $$$ slowly for the three core components later.
Thanks for all your help sirs

[Catamount]

You are correct. There is absolutely no detriment to performance from running anything of that speed in a PCIE 2.0 slot. I'm not sure any card can saturate the PCIE 2.0 bus right now, but even if there are such cards, the 760 or 770 should not have problems.


As for your CPU, yeah it's dated, but just overclock the damn thing. It'll be good enough for now. If your cooling isn't great, just get a Hyper212 Evo for like $30.

Edited by Catamount, 15 June 2014 - 03:28 PM.