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[Kyle Wright]

Wolfways, on 05 June 2014 - 11:20 PM, said:

Oh hell i'd forgotten about that...thing. I really hope we get a Mad Dog that looks more like the original.

Real Mad Dog:

I like them both lol. See I could see being a Clanner if I would've started playing MW at 2, but alas I started with MW4 and Mech Commander so it more or less sealed the deal for the Sword and Sunburst. Maybe just maybe I'll become a bondsman... gonna take you Clanners bring your A game and a lot of friends lol.

[mogs01gt]

Khobai, on 06 June 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

It does add up. The Thor doesnt have endosteel. While the Madcat does. So thats 3.75 extra tons for the Mad Cat right there. Plus the 5 extra tons it gets for the tonnage difference (70 vs 75). Thats 8.75 extra tons to the Mad Cat, which is enough to make the Mad Cat outright better.

Soo the standard structure cant be upgraded? If it cant, the Summoner will be DOA!

[Keeshu]

mogs01gt, on 06 June 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

Soo the standard structure cant be upgraded? If it cant, the Summoner will be DOA!

Don't give up on the Summoner already. There is hitboxes to take into consideration.
Also, whenever they do get around to individual mech trees, that could also give the Summoner an advantage with certain things as well.

[mogs01gt]

Keeshu, on 06 June 2014 - 05:49 AM, said:

Also, whenever they do get around to _____

lol did you really go there

[Khobai]

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Soo the standard structure cant be upgraded? If it cant, the Summoner will be DOA!

Correct. Hence why Ive been saying for 6 months the Thor would be DoA

[MechB Kotare]

Summoner has balistic slots in its arm. There is a chance that thanks to FF, TW wont be capable of mounting UAC20/LBX20s with some significant additional weaponry. I personally look forward to Summoner. I think it will be a great mech, even with existence of its TW S bro.

Edited by MechB Kotare, 06 June 2014 - 06:03 AM.

[Keeshu]

mogs01gt, on 06 June 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

lol did you really go there

Yes I did.
Call me optimistic, and looking for the long term stuff. We could really use individual mech quirks for a lot of mechs we have right now.
Yeah I know it doesn't help the balance for the here and now though.

[Khobai]

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Summoner has balistic slots in its arm. There is a chance that thanks to FF, TW wont be capable of mounting UAC20/LBX20s with some significant additional weaponry. I personally look forward to Summoner. I think it will be a great mech, even with existence of its TW S bro.

The Mad Cat C gets a ballistic slot in its right arm. So it should be able to put a CUAC20 in its right arm.

[EyeOne]

mogs01gt, on 06 June 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

Soo the standard structure cant be upgraded? If it cant, the Summoner will be DOA!

When will people learn...

Apparently never.

[mogs01gt]

EyeOne, on 06 June 2014 - 06:20 AM, said:

When will people learn...
Apparently never.

Yeah!!! Another troll post!!! Well I just learned it cant be upgraded, soo what now?!!

Khobai, on 06 June 2014 - 05:57 AM, said:

Correct. Hence why Ive been saying for 6 months the Thor would be DoA

Other than fan boys, its already dead!

Edited by mogs01gt, 06 June 2014 - 06:22 AM.

[EyeOne]

mogs01gt, on 06 June 2014 - 06:22 AM, said:

Yeah!!! Another troll post!!! Well I just learned it cant be upgraded, soo what now?!!

I don't know. What are you talking about?

Edit: Maybe you think I'm trolling you for not knowing about Endo? Psh, I don't care. I didn't know either honestly.

My point is that since the beginning of time people have been trying to declare mechs "awesome" or "DOA, LOL!" before they come out. The track record is abysmal. If the Thor sucks, it's no skin off my nose but at some point you have to learn that perhaps we should wait and see rather than make troll posts on a forum about it.

Well, on second though, I guess that's just some people's thing... sad.

Edited by EyeOne, 06 June 2014 - 06:31 AM.

[Grimm Peaper]

Thor wins if it doesn't get an alpha strike while jump sniping:

[Keeshu]

EyeOne, on 06 June 2014 - 06:23 AM, said:

I don't know. What are you talking about?

Edit: Maybe you think I'm trolling you for not knowing about Endo? Psh, I don't care. I didn't know either honestly.

My point is that since the beginning of time people have been trying to declare mechs "awesome" or "DOA, LOL!" before they come out. The track record is abysmal. If the Thor sucks, it's no skin off my nose but at some point you have to learn that perhaps we should wait and see rather than make troll posts on a forum about it.

Well, on second though, I guess that's just some people's thing... sad.

I agree with this. However sometimes it's just fun to speculate. As long as people don't seriously think they'll know what will happen, especially when we know so little.

[MechB Kotare]

Khobai, on 06 June 2014 - 06:15 AM, said:

The Mad Cat C gets a ballistic slot in its right arm. So it should be able to put a CUAC20 in its right arm.

I see. Well still, I think summoner will be better SR brawler thanks to its JJ capabilites on all of its variants.

Edited by MechB Kotare, 06 June 2014 - 07:09 AM.

[EyeOne]

Keeshu, on 06 June 2014 - 07:03 AM, said:

I agree with this. However sometimes it's just fun to speculate. As long as people don't seriously think they'll know what will happen, especially when we know so little.

No, I agree. I love speculating. But "DOA, LOL!" people aren't speculating.

I think the Thor will surprise people. But I've been wrong before. I didn't think the Spider would be very good, I thought I would love the Thunderbolt and I don't, I didn't realize I would love the Griffins as much as I do and I was pretty sure the Shadowhawk wouldn't take an XL engine very well.

But if the Thor is pretty fast and if they make more nimble like a medium those lack of hardpoints might be made up for. If you can manage to max the armor (by downgrading the LRM15 to a 10 or something) it could be deadly.

But, some mechs are tools of destruction for some pilots and suicide assistants for others (a la, me in a Thunderbolt)

Edited by EyeOne, 06 June 2014 - 07:22 AM.

[Reitrix]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 05 June 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

Hitboxes.

Mad Cats will be dead mechs walking. Thors will probably have far more robust hitboxes, and could well see some agility quirks that give them a maneuver edge over their heavier competitors.

I pilot/love Catapults. I don't forsee any problems for my Timber Wolf

[Rubidiy]

1. Default loadout means nothing.
2. We still don't know all of chassis and omnipods specs. For example, we don't know if we can put a UAC-20 into Timberwolf. We don't know hardpoint positioning.
3. We cann't invent any loadouts atm because of #2.

So stop dreaming, PGI by some bizzare reason decided, that charging 240$ half a year before release is ok, but telling people what the hell did they bought is not ok. Deal with it. You won't be able to tell which mech is better in MWo untill very release of these mechs.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Reitrix, on 06 June 2014 - 07:33 AM, said:

I pilot/love Catapults. I don't forsee any problems for my Timber Wolf

Depending on how the shoulder launchers work, the Mad Cat could well be far more vulnerable than the Catapult, even with its cXL survivability edge.

[mogs01gt]

EyeOne, on 06 June 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

No, I agree. I love speculating. But "DOA, LOL!" people aren't speculating.

No Im speculating because I want a Summoner! Sadly I feel they will be DOA for me since I hate poptarting.

[WarHippy]

El Bandito, on 05 June 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

Aidan became a warrior in a Summoner, beat 3 to 1 odds Trial of Refusal in a Summoner, got his Bloodname in a Summoner, turned around a most impossible battle to victory in his Summoner, saved his Commander's legacy in a Summoner, and conquered multiple IS worlds in a Summoner. When he was forced to pilot a Timberwolf, what happened?

HE DIED.

Aidan became a warrior in a Summoner after failing to become a warrior in a Summoner and was made into a tech, he beat 3 to one odds with the help of other actual clan warriors not in Summoner's in a trail of refusal, got his bloodname after looking like a complete novice and getting a lucky cockpit shot as he flailed on the ground after breaking his own Summoner's leg, saved his commander's legacy in a Summoner by falling on the enemy's command tent, and conquered multiple IS worlds in a Summoner with the help of other Clan forces. When he was forced to pilot a Timberwolf, what happened? He for once acted like a proper clan warrior and died in glorious clan style earning the preservation of his genetic legacy. Seems to me the Timberwolf was his better mech.