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#61 verybad

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 03:38 PM

I bet Natasha Kerensky was STILL hot even when she died.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 03:55 PM

View PostKyle Wright, on 10 June 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Seeing is that Clan Wolf Alpha and Delta Galaxy are ramping things up. And members of HHoD and Team 007 just created a Clan Wolf unit. I'd say that Clan Wolf is in good hands. I wont call you freebirth promise.


^This

There aren't many units aligned with Clan Wolf that have been regular members of the competitive scene, with I think the only exception being the Russian Wolves.

It won't stay like that for much longer.

#63 Razorfish

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 03:56 PM

As far as Kerensky’s vision goes, it was warped beyond recognition by glory hungry hypocrites that call themselves the Warrior Cast. Regardless of the Clan...

The only good Clanner is a dead Clanner.





Have a nice day.

#64 White Bear 84

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:03 PM

View PostHellFox83, on 10 June 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

Unfortunately it means that Clan Wolf's reputation as a faction will be seen as kind of a joke. When me and my friends see a bunch of Clan Wolf guys, we go, " Oh look we have 8 Clan Wolf guys on our team. Anyone want to take a bet on how fast we'll lose this?" Each time we've seen a large number of Clan Wolf guys on a team they have not done well at all.


CW invasion has failed... :(

More space for us Bears.

Edited by White Bear 84, 10 June 2014 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:25 PM

Well the topic seems to have changed from a statement about the players who choose to play under Clan Wolf to roleplaying in the context of the lore. I have no comments about the latter, but I do regarding the original post.

I would venture a guess that one's choice of Clan, for whatever reason, is absolutely and completely orthogonal to their skill as a player. So what if more people join Clan Wolf because they are perceived to be the good guys. The good and middlin' and bad players will join in the same ratios as they do other Clans.

Consider a large bag of different colored marbles -- blue, green, and red -- which are randomly selected to go into two jars. One jar gets 70% of the marbles, the other the rest. No matter which jar you select, the changes of getting a red marble are the same. So unless you think that somehow bad players are more attracted to Clan Wolf than the other clans, they will likely have the same percentage of good and bad players no matter what their relative size is compared to the other clans.

Edited by Zaggeron, 10 June 2014 - 04:26 PM.


#66 KharnZor

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:26 PM

View PostJohanssenJr, on 10 June 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:


*rolls eyes*

Everybody knows you married into House Steiner because of our enormous pocketbooks. Filthy peasants.

You sound salty. Thats unbecoming of a Davion underling.
Now, shine my shoes

#67 El Bandito

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:10 PM

View PostHellFox83, on 10 June 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

What is "Good Guy" Syndrome? This is the behavior I have noted of players joining a faction simply because they are the perceived good guys of a series or game. Clan wolf since Mechwarrior 2 has been noted as the "good" clan out of the clans. But this reputation and belief about them unfortunately has caused a surge of players joining Clan Wolf that are really not that great. In fact much of them are rabble, that often times cause a defeat for a team more than anything. This behavior as I noted is nothing new, in Planetside 2 when it launched many players joined NC since they were "freedom fighters" fighting against religious extremism (VS), or military tyranny (TR). Even farther back I am sure WoW had a bunch of people join Alliance with the belief of them being good guys. Unfortunately it means that Clan Wolf's reputation as a faction will be seen as kind of a joke.


Says the guy with Federated Suns logo. You know, the "Good Guys" of Inner Sphere? Guess the reason I never found Sun's Mechwarriors impressive in general compared to most other factions in MWO, is because of that?

The only reason I said "most" is because I have personal hate against the Liao, otherwise they are the better pilots.

Edited by El Bandito, 10 June 2014 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:15 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 10 June 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:


Says the guy with Federated Suns logo. You know, the "Good Guys" of Inner Sphere? Guess the reason I never found Sun's Mechwarriors impressive in general compared to most other factions, is because of that?

Know your shame.


I just wear it cause it the sword looks coooool ;-p

#69 El Bandito

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:16 PM

View PostHellFox83, on 10 June 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

I just wear it cause it the sword looks coooool ;-p


And doesn't it appear to you that many people like the wolf logo simply for the appearance, as well? It is by far better than the green parakeet, the smoked kitten, and the WTF? bear.

I bet many in MWO does not know crap about the lore, and just play for F2P mech combat.

Edited by El Bandito, 10 June 2014 - 05:18 PM.


#70 Zeriniel

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:22 PM

View PostOdins Fist, on 10 June 2014 - 01:33 PM, said:

Well, since the DEVs said that the Inner Sphere will NOT change, as in the planets will not get taken over, the map will not change (only the outer ring periphery planets), then Clan Wolf having a million bad players will not matter. As a matter of fact CW will not really matter, because the DEVs already stated that none of the Houses will get knocked out, and the Inner Sphere will not change.

So, what's the Point..??


Didn't one of the devs (or was it Niko, which means it was a lie) say that in CW (60-90 days guys) they're actually going to allow the rewriting of history (in the fact that the invasion can actually be stopped short of Tukayyid? or that the Clans can win?)

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:32 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 10 June 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:


And doesn't it appear to you that many people like the wolf logo simply for the appearance, as well? It is by far better than the green parakeet, the smoked kitten, and the WTF? bear.

I bet many in MWO does not know crap about the lore, and just play for F2P mech combat.


just..... wow you sir are amazing. You should be given a medal for your ingenious insight into the behavior of people. I applaud you for pointing out my *&^%$^, seriously thank you.

#72 El Bandito

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:39 PM

View PostHellFox83, on 10 June 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

just..... wow you sir are amazing. You should be given a medal for your ingenious insight into the behavior of people. I applaud you for pointing out my *&^%$^, seriously thank you.


Now if everyone whose *&^%$^ I pointed out was as humble and grateful as you... :(

Edited by El Bandito, 10 June 2014 - 05:39 PM.


#73 Hellcat420

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:42 PM

View Postverybad, on 10 June 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

I bet Natasha Kerensky was STILL hot even when she died.

yep, hot as jump jet exhaust, and pretty crispy too.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:45 PM

Good, bad, whatever. Just tell me where they are.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:01 PM

View Post627, on 10 June 2014 - 11:02 AM, said:

Thing is, the rest of those clans are more or less jokes... take those birdies... their only hero is a guy who had to cheat his way to warrior and he became famous when... he died.


Sorry to inform you but as **** stomping goes... Clan Ghost Bear is the place to be...

#76 Firelizard

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:15 PM

View PostCreovex, on 10 June 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

Sorry to inform you but as **** stomping goes... Clan Ghost Bear is the place to be...


There are three certainties in the universe.

1 - You will die
2 - You will pay -someone- taxes
3 - Pissed off Ghost Bears kill people.

#77 Saint Scarlett Johan

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:38 PM

View PostKharnZor, on 10 June 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

You sound salty. Thats unbecoming of a Davion underling.
Now, shine my shoes


Get those filthy Capellans to do it. And I think we lost your shipment of Atlases.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:56 PM

Kind of like all the Steiner Davion pilots...

#79 El Bandito

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:58 PM

View PostJohanssenJr, on 10 June 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

Get those filthy Capellans to do it. And I think we lost your shipment of Atlases.


Actually your response should have been "Zat vould be 50 C-Bills".

Much more thematic for a money worshipping faction.

Edited by El Bandito, 10 June 2014 - 07:04 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostFirelizard, on 10 June 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

3 - Pissed off Ghost Bears kill people.


Unless they happen to be ComStar. But hey, at least you did better than the Smoked Kittens. :(





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