Ghogiel, on 20 June 2014 - 01:10 PM, said:
yeah it is certainly lower than my assaults and heavies. But my SHDs were pushing a 2.0 w/l.
And Carnage and Lady in assault mech gglcose
I can only speak for myself but if the other 3 in my lance and alpha lance wanted to have a scrim I'd be down lol
Win moar for your mediums! MAKE IT SO!!!
Seriously though, there's a limit to where a medium can only do so much compared to other classes (well, to some degree Lights, but I think Lights have a lot more utility that allow it to go further on the Elo scale than a medium).
Alpha Lance derping is an artifact of just... derping in general.
It happens... although it would be more visible at lower Elo levels (at least I see plenty of that in mine, even being a part of that derp).
Wintersdark, on 20 June 2014 - 01:11 PM, said:
Anyways, my overall argument here was that groups are assigned from largest to smallest alpha>bravo>charlie, then solo players are added.
I do _not_ believe that Elo is factored into either the solo player placement or which group gets alpha, but obviously that's going to remain up in the air until confirmed as its not testable. The group thing, however, is both directly observable AND what PGI has said happens.
I am willing to consider first come first serve on solo PUGs, given that the MM still has to look for them towards the end of its search.
Wintersdark, on 20 June 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:
Anecdotal, but my observations have been, over absurdly many drops, that this is absolutely provable.
My assault Elo is reasonably high. I regularly see all the "big names" when in them. My heavies and mediums are lower, and I see a different (and wider variety) set of players. Most noticeably, however, my light Elo is very low. When I first started playing lights, I deliberately tanked it... From there, I'm an atrociously bad light pilot, so its been easy to stay there.
I see an entirely different set of players in lights. I go from a sea of 3D's, Shadowhawk and victors to swafts of people with horrendously stupid builds, spouting all sorts of nonsense in chat, etc. Not the odd random troll, but most of the players.
I can exploit that, when I'm feeling exploitive, by joining a high Elo group and dropping in an ECM light. My light Elo is so low, we get a noticeably different set of opponents as a result.
I honestly want to avoid as much of the underhive as much as possible, but for now I'll keep seeing them passing through every PUG match. It's just the nature of the beast.
For the record though, I did get a short opportunity to play with some of the Lords one day (it was before the team tourney - they were doing practice) and I know a few. The thing is when I started dropping with them in a premade... it was like playing a VERY DIFFERENT GAME. Wait times are a pain (I was dragging the average Elo down, which I guess helps), but the quality of play is something I keep theorizing about and ACTUALLY seeing it for what it is (gogo meta-DS) and it puts into a serious perspective on how a game really looks different depending on your actual skill level. It fascinates me (although I get bored of the meta too) and while I can't say it's the gospel truth (when it is), people need to really take a harder look at that team tourney results and see WHY a team won. If you can even reasonably analyze what worked and what didn't and how the match was won, you'd understand that all these "skill" and "weapon" debates are not just something made out of thin air (unless, your argument is coming from left field - underhive powered) that people don't ever spec other people doing stuff successfully over a long period of time and try to copy/emulate them correctly... so it's always going to be a hotly debated discussion when people don't know whether they are actually good or not.
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