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#461 heimdelight

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 05:56 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 23 June 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Vids or it didn't happen! ^_^


1v1 vs. Zensei

Video: http://www.twitch.tv...light/c/4524161

View PostZensei, on 23 June 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:


It happened, he beat me fair and decisively, credit where its due.


You did say at the end, "you be bad" and then disconnected.

I appreciate the kind words here but your sportsmanship was very poor.

Edited by heimdelight, 23 June 2014 - 05:54 PM.


#462 Mystere

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 05:56 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 23 June 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

It's not like it takes months for the top to get it's bearing in this game. You are under the incorrect assumption the TBR hasn't been put to the test.

It's meta compliant gold seal approved.


That may indeed be the case. But, whether or not any and all potential counters exist still needs to be determined. Or have you already completed that analysis too?

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 05:57 PM

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If you lower the damage on a weapon system (PPC's in this case) in an attempt to balance jump sniping then you are still hurting the non-poptart mechs that utilize PPC's. Not a good suggestion at all.

JJ Shake up and down was semi effective until it was whined out of existence by the 1337 players on high............cone of fire while in the air would be effective but those same 1337 players on high are so convinced that it's their amazing ability to aim and NOT the PP FLD they get from a single button press winning games for them that they will continue to drown out any calls for that.

So what does that leave us? Oh yeah that's right, nothing at the moment.


Notice I did not say we needed to lower the damage of PPCs. What needs to be lowered is the total amount of pin point damage snipers can do. This can be done in many ways without hurting all the other players. For example just making it so you cant fire two PPCs while using jump jets or a short time later. Or shake while on the way down. I do not care how we do it but it needs to only effect jump snipers.

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:00 PM

View PostZensei, on 23 June 2014 - 05:01 PM, said:


Dont remember ever playing against you, but I'll take that bet against your Timberwolf


please stop, Heimdelight is arguably the #1 player in the game he will annihilate you 100 times out of 100. Where all these noobs popping out the woodwork acting tough for? Just participate in the discussion stop getting jealous/envious of HoL success and bashing their opinion just based on that.

View Postheimdelight, on 23 June 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:


1v1 vs. Zensei

Video: http://www.twitch.tv...light/c/4524161



You did say at the end, "you be bad" and then disconnected.

I appreciate the kind words here but your sportsmanship was very poor.

Oh see I spoke too soon. Big surprise. What a joke. "Oh I dont like your opinion on jump jet mechanics so I'm gonna have a dickswinging contest and challenge you to a 1 on 1!" Like that's gonna prove anything. If anything it's not Heimdelight's skill that is the reason people should listen it's the fact he has more hours logged in the game probably than everyone in this thread combined, owns over 100 mechs and has amassed billions of cbills and thus it shows an experience level with the game most people here lack

#465 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:01 PM

View Postheimdelight, on 23 June 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:


1v1 vs. Zensei

Video: http://www.twitch.tv...light/c/4524161



You did say at the end, "you be bad" and then disconnected.

I appreciate the kind words here but your sportsmanship was very poor.

He totally brought the wrong mech for that fight Both times.. His strategy was sound though in the cave.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 23 June 2014 - 06:06 PM.


#466 Adiuvo

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:02 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 23 June 2014 - 05:20 PM, said:

Razor has a good point Adiuvo, You guys are good at a video game, and talk smack like you run a nation. ^_^

I'm blunt. Sorry if it offends people. I don't, however, go around saying stuff like 'you're **** at I should just ignore you' to anyone.

Razor has also been rude throughout this whole exchange, so w.e.

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:07 PM

View PostGreyGriffin, on 23 June 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Even after all that is said and done, if pinpoint never gets fixed and jump sniping rules the day forever, is it really bad that the Timber Wolf takes over the Cat 3D in the top Heavy spot? Why can't there be a new best?


Precisely. I'd rather have a new beast that at the same time might allow for other interesting possibilities, than keep the old beast and guarantee that there will be no such new interesting possibilities.

#468 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:08 PM

View PostAdiuvo, on 23 June 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

I'm blunt. Sorry if it offends people. I don't, however, go around saying stuff like 'you're **** at I should just ignore you' to anyone.

Razor has also been rude throughout this whole exchange, so w.e.

No I'm Blunt.

#469 Zensei

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:10 PM

View Postheimdelight, on 23 June 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:


1v1 vs. Zensei

Video: http://www.twitch.tv...light/c/4524161



You did say at the end, "you be bad" and then disconnected.

I appreciate the kind words here but your sportsmanship was very poor.


"you be bad" is street slang for "you are very good" game was over so I left. sigh

#470 R Razor

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:11 PM

View PostAdiuvo, on 23 June 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

I'm blunt. Sorry if it offends people. I don't, however, go around saying stuff like 'you're **** at I should just ignore you' to anyone.

Razor has also been rude throughout this whole exchange, so w.e.


No Sir,

To quote you......"I'm blunt" and I call a Ricky Cranium out when I see them........and I see a few big ones in here now. Point of fact, I've actually been relatively mellow tonight......don't like being called out, don't act like a feminine hygiene product.....don't associate with people that act like feminine hygiene products and stop trying your absolute best to pigeonhole this game into a meta fest jump sniping poptart version of Hawken.

Some of you may be very good at this game, but given that this game has so many exploitable mechanics due to poor design and even poorer implementation, that isn't necessarily something to brag about. Come talk to me when you can beat Kasparsky or Big Blue in a chess match, then maybe your skill will be recognized.

Leave the Clan Mechs alone (no I don't own any clan mechs) or better yet, make them MORE POWERFUL as they were intended to be by the original universe creators..........stop crying just because someone has a mech that can meet the poptarts on their own terms. It's unbecoming and merely further demonstrates your complete disregard for the game as anything more than poptart deathmatch online.

#471 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:12 PM

View PostZensei, on 23 June 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:


"you be bad" is street slang for "you are very good" game was over so I left. sigh

Slang is somewhat regional.

#472 R Razor

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:13 PM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 23 June 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Slang is somewhat regional.



And invariably will be taken negatively by someone already on the defensive........

#473 Adiuvo

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:16 PM

View PostR Razor, on 23 June 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:


No Sir,

To quote you......"I'm blunt" and I call a Ricky Cranium out when I see them........and I see a few big ones in here now. Point of fact, I've actually been relatively mellow tonight......don't like being called out, don't act like a feminine hygiene product.....don't associate with people that act like feminine hygiene products and stop trying your absolute best to pigeonhole this game into a meta fest jump sniping poptart version of Hawken.

Some of you may be very good at this game, but given that this game has so many exploitable mechanics due to poor design and even poorer implementation, that isn't necessarily something to brag about. Come talk to me when you can beat Kasparsky or Big Blue in a chess match, then maybe your skill will be recognized.

Leave the Clan Mechs alone (no I don't own any clan mechs) or better yet, make them MORE POWERFUL as they were intended to be by the original universe creators..........stop crying just because someone has a mech that can meet the poptarts on their own terms. It's unbecoming and merely further demonstrates your complete disregard for the game as anything more than poptart deathmatch online.

Alright dude.

IN OTHER NEWS, the famous CSJx Le0 has fought Heimdelight. Results up shortly.

Edited by Adiuvo, 23 June 2014 - 06:16 PM.


#474 P e n u m b r a

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:19 PM

he said he could beat any mech at range i said to prove it and that id wreak him at range one guess what he did? also instead fled the one win instead of playing set go figure ^_^

Edited by L e 0, 23 June 2014 - 06:33 PM.


#475 Adiuvo

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:19 PM

View PostL e 0, on 23 June 2014 - 06:19 PM, said:

he said he could beat any mech at range i said to prove it and that id wreak him at range one guess what he did?


shh spoilers ^_^

#476 Mystere

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:20 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 23 June 2014 - 04:06 PM, said:

I suppose what is being discussed isn't intended to be understood by people who don't care about winning. You can still play salad builds even if the TBR gets a nerf.


View PostGreyGriffin, on 23 June 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

This is what I mean when we're playing completely different games. You think the Timber Wolf is ruining your game? Think about what the changes you're proposing would do to everyone else's game before you spit down from the balcony of your ivory tower.


And the so-called "elite" "competitive" "high-Elo" "top-level" players are actually surprised why other players do not look at them kindly?

#477 Adiuvo

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:22 PM

View PostMystere, on 23 June 2014 - 06:20 PM, said:

And the so-called "elite" "competitive" "high-Elo" "top-level" players are actually surprised why other players do not look at them kindly?

What Ghogiel says is what Ghogiel says, not what the competitive scene says ^_^

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:25 PM

View PostAdiuvo, on 23 June 2014 - 06:19 PM, said:


shh spoilers ^_^


well charged in lol

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:25 PM

View PostAdiuvo, on 23 June 2014 - 06:22 PM, said:

What Ghogiel says is what Ghogiel says, not what the competitive scene says ^_^



Can't have it both ways my man.........you guys (so called top tier players I mean) run around and pat each other on the back when you think you can wolfpack someone who posts something you don't like and then come out with some nonsense like this when it suits you?

Maybe if you policed your own then those in your crowd that weren't the aforementioned hygiene products could be taken more seriously and given more credit for their knowledge of the game and suggestions......unfortunately too many of your "gang" have ruined any chance of open mindedness and goodwill from most of the player base.

Edited by R Razor, 23 June 2014 - 06:27 PM.


#480 Adiuvo

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:28 PM

View PostR Razor, on 23 June 2014 - 06:25 PM, said:



Can't have it both ways my man.........you guys (so called top tier players I mean) run around and pat each other on the back when you think you can wolfpack someone who posts something you don't like and then come out with some nonsense like this when it suits you?

Maybe if you policed your own then those in your crowd that weren't the aforementioned hygiene products could be taken more seriously and given more credit for their knowledge of the game and suggestions......unfortunately too many of your "gang" have ruined any chance of open mindedness and goodwill from most of the player base.

I have no association with Ghogiel. I have no effect on what he says or does, nor do I really mind what he says or does. He's his own person.

I also didn't know I run around and pat all comp players on the back. Besides Lords, I basically only hang around with SJR, so...

You asking me to 'police' them is like me asking you to police people on the forum, just because you post here. It doesn't make sense.

Edited by Adiuvo, 23 June 2014 - 06:32 PM.






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