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[Bulvar Jorgensson]

PGI I can sort of understand your reasoning on restricting Clan engine sizes (though I think not restricting IS mech engine swappage was a mistake, which you probably realise now but that horse has bolted)

But please can you release a FAST light, I have noticed recently that IS light mechs continue to punch well above their weight, when Clan lights seem to Fail at anything other than ECM shields or LRM boats.


How many Light packs have ripped through Dire-wolves and other assaults, to run off and be 400 meters away before a clan mech can even lock it (if it is not running ECM).

How many clan/comp teams insist on someone bringing an Ember or Spider to run interference in Meta games.

heck i see more Jade falcon flags on Spiders/Embers than I do using Clan mechs in most matches, which to me seems wrong???

No one is asking to be able to switch Engines, just release a Clan Light that can keep up with and be used as a proper Scout/Node nabber.

[Khobai]

If a clan light went 151kph why would you ever use an IS light though? At least now IS has the best light and best assault mechs. While clans have the best mediums and best heavy. So its somewhat balanced.

I think clans are balanced around having some weaknesses compared to IS and lack of a fast light mech is one of them.

Edited by Khobai, 29 June 2014 - 02:31 AM.

[xe N on]

No.

[dario03]

http://www.sarna.net.../Arctic_Cheetah 143kph with speed tweak, JJs, and 35 tons.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Horned_Owl not a omni so if they make Clan Battlemechs like IS then it could do ~150kph and also 35 tons with JJs.

Theres also a bunch of other clan mechs that can hit very high speeds but those are the ones that I am most interested in currently.

[Diablobo]

We don't need a fast Clan light, we need a fast Clan MEDIUM. The Fenris and Dragonfly would be great to have but they might be too OP. They would be almost as fast but have more armor. They would give the Spiders and Firestarters a rough time. I can't wait to run them if they give them to us.

[Kiiyor]

Jenner IIC does 150, but I'd prefer that for the IS. There's always the Dasher, with its most popular variant, DSR-1LOLNETCODE.

Personally... I don't want the clan lights any faster. The amount of gun they pack really sets them apart from IS mechs. They work well in support, do respectable damage, and make good medium range scouts.

The IS lights on the other hand, are Sharks. Fast, fragile, voracious sharks. Even with ECM, they can still be torn to pieces by Clan non-lights, as even the freaking TWolf can keep pace for a while. They will never, ever have the firepower of any clan light.

The clans have the speed, range and firepower to really put their stamp matches. IS lights with their speed and maneuverability are one of the only IS tools that really allow the Sphere to shape the battlefield.

You speed up clan lights, and IS lights are done. Completely. Old news.

[Vassago Rain]

Wait for the piranha.

[xMintaka]

Diablobo, on 29 June 2014 - 03:54 AM, said:

We don't need a fast Clan light, we need a fast Clan MEDIUM.

The Stormcrow isn't fast?

[Nryrony]

Nah comon its almost as slow as a Mad Cat srly what are you thinking...

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I expect we'll see the Koshi and the Fenris in the inevitable Clan 2nd Wave pack.

[Too Much Love]

People slowly understand that clans are underpowered... Timberwolf blinds you at first, but then you realize that the rest of the clan pack was worst than IS...

[Green Mamba]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 29 June 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

I expect we'll see the Koshi and the Fenris in the inevitable Clan 2nd Wave pack.

It better not be before CW gets delivered, people tired of the Cash Grabs

[Elghinn]

Here is the problem. I can run down a speed tweaked Kit Fox in a Dragon and almost an Awesome. This is no where near balanced. Either IS mechs need to have the engine sizes cap reduced some or the CM mechs need to be allowed to update their engine sizes. Maybe a smaller percentage than the IS get.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Elghinn, on 29 June 2014 - 06:28 AM, said:

Here is the problem. I can run down a speed tweaked Kit Fox in a Dragon and almost an Awesome. This is no where near balanced. Either IS mechs need to have the engine sizes cap reduced some or the CM mechs need to be allowed to update their engine sizes. Maybe a smaller percentage than the IS get.

I didnt think an Awesome could run down a building, let alone a Kit Fox.

Thing with like a 325 only goes 60....

[Lootee]

Lunatech, on 29 June 2014 - 04:05 AM, said:

The Stormcrow isn't fast?

Not that fast compared to the Fenris (129kph), Black Lanner (118, 151kph w MASC), or Phantom (151kph).

Edited by PanchoTortilla, 29 June 2014 - 06:39 AM.

[Gyrok]

Khobai, on 29 June 2014 - 02:26 AM, said:

If a clan light went 151kph why would you ever use an IS light though? At least now IS has the best light and best assault mechs the mechs that require the lowest skill bar for entry. While clans have the best mediums and best heavy. So its somewhat balanced.

I think clans are balanced around having some weaknesses compared to IS and lack of a fast light mech is one of them.

FTFY.

I would argue the Clan mechs are just as good, even at the same roles, just have to be played differently...which IS pilots who are speed junkies cannot seem to grasp.

LordKnightFandragon, on 29 June 2014 - 06:30 AM, said:

I didnt think an Awesome could run down a building, let alone a Kit Fox.

Thing with like a 325 only goes 60....

9M is fast...

[Scratx]

PanchoTortilla, on 29 June 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

Not that fast compared to the Fenris (129kph), Black Lanner (118, 151kph w MASC), or Phantom (151kph).

Well, if you just want a half dozen medium lasers or something for guns, I suppose... Stormcrow's honestly fast enough already, and packs enough pod-space for some rather frightening firepower for its tonnage and speed.

[Gyrok]

Kiiyor, on 29 June 2014 - 03:57 AM, said:

Jenner IIC does 150, but I'd prefer that for the IS. There's always the Dasher, with its most popular variant, DSR-1LOLNETCODE.

Personally... I don't want the clan lights any faster. The amount of gun they pack really sets them apart from IS mechs. They work well in support, do respectable damage, and make good medium range scouts.

The IS lights on the other hand, are Sharks. Fast, fragile, voracious sharks. Even with ECM, they can still be torn to pieces by Clan non-lights, as even the freaking TWolf can keep pace for a while. They will never, ever have the firepower of any clan light.

The clans have the speed, range and firepower to really put their stamp matches. IS lights with their speed and maneuverability are one of the only IS tools that really allow the Sphere to shape the battlefield.

You speed up clan lights, and IS lights are done. Completely. Old news.

It has to happen though...things like the Ice Ferret, Mist Lynx and Firemoth will come...

[Lootee]

Scratx, on 29 June 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:

Well, if you just want a half dozen medium lasers or something for guns, I suppose... Stormcrow's honestly fast enough already, and packs enough pod-space for some rather frightening firepower for its tonnage and speed.

Yeah different designs for different roles. Stormcrow is a front line combat mech. The fast mediums are scouts and harassers. The little pod space they do have is plenty to put the hurt on IS light mechs however. They can easily fit 3-4 medium lasers plus a SSRM6, or in the Phantom's case 10 small lasers. No IS light would be safe from it.

[Fang01]

LordKnightFandragon, on 29 June 2014 - 06:30 AM, said:

I didnt think an Awesome could run down a building, let alone a Kit Fox.

Thing with like a 325 only goes 60....

Pretty baby can go 90