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[N0MAD]

MischiefSC, on 02 July 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

3/3/3/3 works fine - most of my drops are 3/3/3/3, results being less total tonnage and weapons tonnage on the field, extending match length. Primetime is problematic but otherwise? It's been a lot of fun.

I dont play so i cant do this..
Why dont you take 10 screens of your next 10 matches..(can you be honest and post 10 consecutive screens and waiting time without picking and chosing the games) 10 consecutive matches and wait time for those? then post them?
Death could you do same?
be very interesting to see the actual class break up in those games.
Thanks.

[Deathlike]

N0MAD, on 03 July 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

I dont play so i cant do this..
Why dont you take 10 screens of your next 10 matches..(can you be honest and post 10 consecutive screens and waiting time without picking and chosing the games) 10 consecutive matches and wait time for those? then post them?
Death could you do same?
be very interesting to see the actual class break up in those games.
Thanks.

I've already taken the pictures... so, I'll see what I can do for you.

[N0MAD]

Great thanks bro, looking at the 3x4 break up is in that small sample.
I expect waiting times will be down on account of the release valve..
TY

[Deathlike]

N0MAD, on 03 July 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

Great thanks bro, looking at the 3x4 break up is in that small sample.
I expect waiting times will be down on account of the release valve..
TY

Are you talking solo or premade drops? Did premade drops late, primarily solo drops early.

The wait times were pretty good, considering. Solo was short (well, I went Light, so the queue is excellent) for like < 30 seconds (15 on average). On average, it was like 1 to 2 mins tops for the small+big premade size for the big group queue.

[Kitane]

The first match had 6 heavies on my team, the second one came with a premade of 4 Timberwolves. There were few 3/3/3/3 matches, but in most matches there were either 4 heavies, 4 assaults or very often 4 of both.

A lot of stomps in 12:1 - 12:3 range, but there were some close matches, same as before the patch.

I couldn't see much difference in the game, but at least the queue time was a fraction of the pre-patch waiting time.

Edited by Kitane, 03 July 2014 - 12:31 AM.

[N0MAD]

Well i always play with a couple mate 2 to 4, unless i play with a MW unit i play with, (not playing MW, others mainly WT)
So group Q would be of more interest, but be interesting to see solo also.

[MischiefSC]

N0MAD, on 03 July 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

I dont play so i cant do this..
Why dont you take 10 screens of your next 10 matches..(can you be honest and post 10 consecutive screens and waiting time without picking and chosing the games) 10 consecutive matches and wait time for those? then post them?
Death could you do same?
be very interesting to see the actual class break up in those games.
Thanks.

Creeping up on 3AM, I'm up in a few hours. I'll do it tomorrow though, absolutely> Back to back to back matches, match round screen end. Also wait time from launch to loading the map screen (begining of match start).

[kapusta11]

Most of the group queue games are pretty close and awesome, though it because groups are finally matched against groups and not 3x4. Solo games are just as before.

Edited by kapusta11, 03 July 2014 - 12:42 AM.

[N0MAD]

MischiefSC, on 03 July 2014 - 12:35 AM, said:

Creeping up on 3AM, I'm up in a few hours. I'll do it tomorrow though, absolutely> Back to back to back matches, match round screen end. Also wait time from launch to loading the map screen (begining of match start).

No hurry brother, appreciate any effort at your leisure.
TY

[HellJumper]

ya it will be interesting to see 3,3,3,3 in a working form

[Vassago Rain]

N0MAD, on 03 July 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

I dont play so i cant do this..
Why dont you take 10 screens of your next 10 matches..(can you be honest and post 10 consecutive screens and waiting time without picking and chosing the games) 10 consecutive matches and wait time for those? then post them?
Death could you do same?
be very interesting to see the actual class break up in those games.
Thanks.

I will not be held responsible for anything you may or may not read in the in-game chat. Here is a bonus picture of the prettiest babies. My wait times have decreased from 5+ minutes to anywhere from two minutes to 30 seconds.

Edited by Vassago Rain, 03 July 2014 - 12:51 AM.

[Lyoto Machida]

Why is Paul Inouye in this thread at this ungodly hour? Late night drinking, perhaps?

[MischiefSC]

N0MAD, on 03 July 2014 - 12:38 AM, said:

No hurry brother, appreciate any effort at your leisure.
TY

I'll say this - if it were not for the fact that I've literally lost almost 35 of the last 40 games I've played (solo and in groups) I'm enjoying the game so much I'm still considering picking up MC for paint and deco stuff. I'll bank it for when I pick up more clan mechs with cbills.

Streaks come and go, though this has been a terrible one. Painful, terrible. It's literally been so bad it's dropped my W/L on Terra Therma below 1.0. Part of that is likely because of my last 60 drops I've probably had 20 or more on TT and lost every single one.

Getting a pavlovian response.

Much of it though is playing with new builds and getting back into lights. Oddly I think I'm settling on 2xERPPCs and LB20x for the TWolf. It's just not a decent poptart, ERPPC and Gauss. At that range they just don't sync for crap. The ERPPCs are too damn hot to keep up much fire on their own. The LB20X.... is surprising. The grouping is tight. ROF isn't bad at all. You pick a hole in armor with those ERPPCs and it does good work.

ERLLS and UAC20 isn't bad either but I find I do 500-1,000 damage, get 8 assists and no kills.

SRMS are brutal now, but the introduction of UACs, big LBXs and ferocious clan lasers has absolutely stolen their thunder for brawling.

Not sure how to make a TWolf that finishes what she starts consistently without going with LRMs.

[MischiefSC]

@Vassago

Those matches were all in the group queue, right? Still no more than 4 of any one mech class and 3 each of 2 others, and 2 of the 4th.

Damn, that's better than I expected.

[Vassago Rain]

MischiefSC, on 03 July 2014 - 12:56 AM, said:

@Vassago

Those matches were all in the group queue, right? Still no more than 4 of any one mech class and 3 each of 2 others, and 2 of the 4th.

Damn, that's better than I expected.

Yes, we played exclusively huge groups on skirmish. A lot of old players came back since you can now play with your friends. There were some really silly ones with 1000 embers, but I don't know if I saved those.

[Deathlike]

Note: This is in the order that it was uploaded, not necessarily in the order things took place.

5-man:


Match was close... had the trollstarter lance didn't screw around and finish off the cap properly

4-man (close to end of my night):


Too much ECM, relatively speaking - players get indecisive... go figure.

5-man (with 7-man):


Rolled via teamwork - gee, what's new?

4-man (somewhat confident was in big boy queue):


The match result wasn't expected, as the opfor kinda managed to drag us out of the Thunderdome... that and a lance was attacking from the side.

4-man (opfor had 7-man):


Who da' thunk teamwork was the solution?

5-man (opfor had 5 man):


I kinda think the lack of ECM on the opfor was probably an issue.

6-man:


I recall a distinct ineffective amount of teamwork on our end (the premade I was in).

5-man:


IIRC, tactical errors and ECM were a culprit.

5-man:


The 4-man premade in Charlie lance carried...

8-man:


Call good targets, win game.

7-man (7-man premade on opfor I think):


7-man (5-man on opfor):


Some people didn't carry their weight on the opfor, I imagine...

8-man:


It was a clusterf***, and we managed to scratch the win out.

8-man (6-man opfor):


IIRC, the problem was tactical. The enemy stayed low and the 4-man premade unfortunately dropped into that section and died (probably some of ours as well). Poor execution.

5-man:


Poor focus fire IIRC.

5-man:


lol @ complaining about lurms

8-man (opfor had at least a 4-man):


Go figure?

6-man:


Fatlases need to pull their weight.

4-man (last match of the night, vs 6+5+dunno who that LNW belonged to one of the premades):


Did our part, and then some.

Hope this was enlightening.

[HellJumper]

Thanks a lot Vasso and Deathlike..you guys rock.

[Khobai]

3/3/3/3 is okay

but I still think a max of 4 of each weight class would be better with a tonnage limit of 700-750 tons.

the main problem with 3/3/3/3 is that it says a locust and jenner are equal, and that simply isnt true. a jenner is twice as good as a locust and you need tonnage matching to make that difference more apparent. Also allowing 4 of each weight class would maintain some of the mystery about the other team's composition.

[Dymlos2003]

Khobai, on 03 July 2014 - 01:28 AM, said:

3/3/3/3 is okay

but I still think a max of 4 of each weight class would be better with a tonnage limit of 700-750 tons.

the main problem with 3/3/3/3 is that it says a locust and jenner are equal, and that simply isnt true. a jenner is twice as good as a locust and you need tonnage matching to make that difference more apparent. Also allowing 4 of each weight class would maintain some of the mystery about the other team's composition.

It does this already.

[Vassago Rain]

Khobai, on 03 July 2014 - 01:28 AM, said:

3/3/3/3 is okay

but I still think a max of 4 of each weight class would be better with a tonnage limit of 700-750 tons.

the main problem with 3/3/3/3 is that it says a locust and jenner are equal, and that simply isnt true. a jenner is twice as good as a locust and you need tonnage matching to make that difference more apparent. Also allowing 4 of each weight class would maintain some of the mystery about the other team's composition.

It's limited to X in name only. Once it fails, it grabs whatever is available, and then you get matched against 6 DWARF ALPHA ELITES.

This is how it was always going to be.