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[Mcgral18]

Adiuvo, on 15 July 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Mechs that have all of them were basically buffed.

Not my HGN...poor thing.

[Adiuvo]

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My Ember with 5x JJs got buffed. It goes about 13m higher now.

If you were only running 1JJ on your lights before it's a good thing they are less effective. That 1JJ was even workable was stupid.

Edited by Egomane, 15 July 2014 - 12:13 PM.
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[tayhimself]

Mcgral18, on 15 July 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Not my HGN...poor thing.

This is because they nerfed the HGN right into the ground thanks to the 733C metarapers. Class I JJ's have double the tonnage of Class II yet provide less than half the boost. I wish PGI would revisit these issues.

JUMP JETS - CLASS I  1  2.0  10.00  Clan, InnerSphere  4.10  33.00  90t - 200t 152,000
JUMP JETS - CLASS II  1  1.0  10.00  Clan, InnerSphere  4.10  68.00  80t - 90t 132,000
JUMP JETS - CLASS III  1  1.0  10.00  Clan, InnerSphere  4.10  45.00  60t - 80t 108,000
JUMP JETS - CLASS IV  1  0.5  10.00  Clan, InnerSphere  4.10  45.00  40t - 60t 76,000
JUMP JETS - CLASS V  1  0.5  10.00  Clan, InnerSphere  4.10  37.00  20t - 40t 44,000

[DEMAX51]

Adiuvo, on 15 July 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

My Ember with 5x JJs got buffed. It goes about 13m higher now.

If you were only running 1JJ on your lights before it's a good thing they are less effective. That 1JJ was even workable was stupid.

Tried the Jenner yet, Adi? I've been running 2 JJs on mine, and I'm wondering how hard that got hit.

Edited by DEMAX51, 15 July 2014 - 12:12 PM.

[C Leche]

Chemistry Warden, on 15 July 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

This would make no sense whatsoever. It must be the truth.

I believe it is similar to how TT rules calculate jump distance. Or so I heard...

[Sprouticus]

The value should not be linear IMO.

For instance. TW:

1- 2.5m
2- 6m
3- 10m
4- 18m

[Adiuvo]

DEMAX51, on 15 July 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

Tried the Jenner yet, Adi? I've been running 2 JJs on mine, and I'm wondering how hard that got hit.

1 JJ isn't really viable anymore. My 5ML Jenner with 3 JJs isn't that bad though.

[DONTOR]

Sprouticus, on 15 July 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

DS 4JJ (19.1) (23.91m max)
733 4 JJ (21.1) (26.4 max)

NOTE: The DS and 733 cost 8 tons where the TW and 3D only costs 4

Neg, DS cant have 8 tons of JJs.

[rageagainstthedyingofthelight]

Yesterday had one of those "launch my Summoner from one side of the canyon to another while getting the kill on the mech below me" moments. I hope we don't loose those. I love those.

[DEMAX51]

Adiuvo, on 15 July 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

1 JJ isn't really viable anymore. My 5ML Jenner with 3 JJs isn't that bad though.

That's good to know. I'm sure I can free up a half a ton to take one more.

Thanks man!

[Livewyr]

Yeah.. as I suspected..

Anti Gravity Drives.. not Jump Jets.

[Clit Beastwood]

rageagainstthedyingofthelight, on 15 July 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

Yesterday had one of those "launch my Summoner from one side of the canyon to another while getting the kill on the mech below me" moments. I hope we don't loose those. I love those.

lol yeah those are always funny

[Chemistry Warden]

Sprouticus, on 15 July 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

The value should not be linear IMO.

For instance. TW:

1- 2.5m
2- 6m
3- 10m
4- 18m

I'd be okay if they followed this formula:

H=C*[1/2^(M-E)]

Where H is the height, c is a constant (in this case max height), M is the max amount of jj's that can be equipped and E is the actual amount of equipped jump jets.

[Karamarka]

Livewyr, on 15 July 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

Yeah.. as I suspected..

Anti Gravity Drives.. not Jump Jets.

Yes, new JJ is like harrier from 1960's instead of a "jump"

[Zultor]

After playing a couple of my mechs with JJ I am okay with the change. My Jenner with 3JJ couldn't get quite as high but it still was fine. I think that the 1JJ builds and some individual mechs got hit hard but in general if you allocate space/tons for JJ it seems fine.

[Solahma]

Mcgral18, on 15 July 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Not my HGN...poor thing.

Mine always ran 4-5 JJ. I wonder how effected it was by the changes. I had to run 4-5 after the Highlander nerf a long time ago.

[Wabbit Swaya]

Mizeur, on 15 July 2014 - 11:46 AM, said:

The TBR with 1 JJ now feels like it's on a Back to the Future Hoverboard.

The Barbie one the Marty had or the bad ass one that Biff had? Some clarification needed.

[Mcgral18]

Solahma, on 15 July 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

Mine always ran 4-5 JJ. I wonder how effected it was by the changes. I had to run 4-5 after the Highlander nerf a long time ago.

I can't mount more than 3, which makes it very sad. Though it can still pop enough, and the heat doesn't stop the 45 PP FLD.

Though, it's still a sad day for it.

[Deathlike]

Adiuvo, on 15 July 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Mechs that have all of them were basically buffed.

TBH, I disagree.

For instance, I run 3 JJs on the 3D, and prior to the patch, it had minimal problems getting up to the Citadel from the water (I'm talking about the D3 side). Post-patch, I need to use the unflooded platform to get the necessary lift. 4 seems to do the trick, but it's a clear nerf.

For the Victor, 4 JJs were more than enough prior to the patch. Now, it's getting "tight" to say the least to get there.

Prior to the patch, 2 JJs on a LIght (Jenner+Firestarter) were enough to clear the the platform. Now, it's "tight".

Overall, it's a nerf. Don't let the mechlab figures fool you. Contextual distance matters.

Edited by Deathlike, 15 July 2014 - 01:20 PM.

[Mawai]

I just played a few rounds in my Jenner with 5 out of 6 possible jump jets. Performance subjectively was good. It seemed to me that duration was increased or at least it seemed as if I could go farther for a full use of jump jets. I haven't tested any other jump jet mechs or the effect of equipping a single jump jet.

First impression from comments above would be that mechs with fewer jump jets were nerfed while those with the full complement or close to it were buffed (at least for lights) ... not sure about other weight classes.

Edited by Mawai, 15 July 2014 - 01:25 PM.