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[Sandpit]

lockwoodx, on 27 July 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

I made a thread about alpine and how terrible it is a long time ago back when poptarting was at its worst. It's funny how well received it was then due to the competitive community's callous regard for a single queue system, and the same old tryhards who enjoy the meta are trying to get this one shut down too. There's no strat or tactics to alpine other than who wants to sit and do nothing for 10+ minutes until the other team budges, with spawn points determining the outcome of the majority of matches. The irony is Alpine is one of the best maps for conquest because the hill doesn't come into play at all. These days, Alpine is a little more tolerable but not much, as canyon and riverchitty battle for worst map with all the lurm spam being tossed about.

That's funny, I remember that thread differently. Got a link to it? I remember it being shot down almost universally

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

KuroNyra, on 27 July 2014 - 06:15 AM, said:

So, litteraly.
The mechwarrior are a bunch of ****** "Knight" fighting in giant robot for there Kings?

Damn, and I tought Warhammer 40K was ******** enought!




(joke intended I love both universe.)

Pretty much... except clanners...
Clanners are test tube baby vikings that think they're cultured.

[Sandpit]

MadPanda, on 27 July 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

First of all mordor is the lava map and not tourmaline desert. Secondly, everybody hates mordor because it revolves around the center point and creates really bad plays. There is no option to do anything but rush center, either get there first or find out that the enemy is already there and then start poking at each other near the entrances. It's a terrible map design.

First of all your reading comprehension sucks
Mordor is a hot map, lave, hot, hot map. There, that better?

You're absolutely wrong about center rush being the only tactic. It's the only tactic YOU choose to use.

MadPanda, on 27 July 2014 - 03:56 AM, said:

What game are you playing? Name a single "avenue" that doesn't lead to the center? Nice fantasy you got there, but its always the same, one team is holding the center area while the other team is using the entrances to the center to poke at them.

C8
4 Line
Circling to attack base
Base defense
I could take a look at the map and probably give you 3 more exact coordinates that me and my teammates use quite often. You don't know the map, that doesn't make it "bad"
You don't know how to work the map other than center rushing, many others do.

MadPanda, on 27 July 2014 - 04:14 AM, said:

I find your reply funny. As my original post suggested, the map has terrible design and it creates poor plays. Staring contest? Shooting fish in a barrel? I couldn't have put it better myself why its a terrible map.

except for everyone whose opinion says otherwise right?

[CDLord HHGD]

Sandpit, on 27 July 2014 - 06:32 AM, said:

First of all your reading comprehension sucks
Mordor is a hot map, lave, hot, hot map. There, that better?

You're absolutely wrong about center rush being the only tactic. It's the only tactic YOU choose to use.


C8
4 Line
Circling to attack base
Base defense
I could take a look at the map and probably give you 3 more exact coordinates that me and my teammates use quite often. You don't know the map, that doesn't make it "bad"
You don't know how to work the map other than center rushing, many others do.


except for everyone whose opinion says otherwise right?

I present the Alamo!



I won a 5v12 match here after more than half my team disco'd because they couldn't handle the awesome that Terra Therma can be. The elevation of the center keeps the enemy from locking missiles and there's only two ways in which is a great bottleneck and only really do-able if you have jump jets. If you're a slow plodding mech, forgetaboutit.

[Sandpit]

Sandpit, on 24 July 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

i doubt it, I'd vote for mordor just because I know so many like to run those hot builds and don't know how to manage their heat and use a little fire discipline and I have a feeling plenty more would do the same thing

MadPanda, on 27 July 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

First of all mordor is the lava map and not tourmaline desert. .

yes I'm the one who can't read...
anyhow, points stand. Blacklist = bad idea
private matches are there for those who only want to play 1-2 maps. Use those

[MadPanda]

Sandpit, on 24 July 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

Sephlock, on 24 July 2014 - 07:11 PM, said:

Fair enough, although I suspect that if allowed to vote, the end result would be NO MORE MECH HIKING SIMULATOR!

(I'd also like PGI to start collecting data on how many people who vote against Tourmaline are boating LRMs ).

i doubt it, I'd vote for mordor just because I know so many like to run those hot builds and don't know how to manage their heat and use a little fire discipline and I have a feeling plenty more would do the same thing

Sandpit, on 27 July 2014 - 06:39 AM, said:

yes I'm the one who can't read...
anyhow, points stand. Blacklist = bad idea
private matches are there for those who only want to play 1-2 maps. Use those

The guy you quoted was talking about voting against tourmaline, in which you reply that you would vote against mordor. I'm sorry but what meant does not equal to what you wrote. Funny that you get on me for reading comprehension.... lol

[IraqiWalker]

MadPanda, on 27 July 2014 - 06:47 AM, said:

The guy you quoted was talking about voting against tourmaline, in which you reply that you would vote against mordor. I'm sorry but what meant does not equal to what you wrote. Funny that you get on me for reading comprehension.... lol

He said he would vote FOR Mordor. Not Against Mordor, as it is a hot map and those with bad trigger discipline would die easily there.

[Brizna]

I'm sure lots of people have already stated so but the ability to chose or even just remove maps from the queue is the worst idea in the long story of the bad ideas, if it was implemented we would have a meta build for each map instead of a general meta that has to deal with varying conditions so the new meta would be far more METAish and unforgiving of deviation resulting in a duller and boring game.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Sandpit, on 27 July 2014 - 06:27 AM, said:

That's funny, I remember that thread differently. Got a link to it? I remember it being shot down almost universally

Naturally you remember it differently.

I'll check, as I'm sure you contributed to that hot mess of tears by the meta crowd or it may have been while you were on your QQ break. I even made a funny map pic for it but that was censored by the mods for language.

Edit: Sorry it only lets me go back 5 created topics in the profile.

Edited by lockwoodx, 27 July 2014 - 07:43 AM.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

If we could "blacklist" maps, I would gladly opt out of...

...
Forest Colony (+snow)
Frozen Shltty (+night)
River Shltty (+night)


I cannot stand these early shoebox sized maps that quite clearly cannot handle 24 mechs + turrets on them. Besides the fact these maps are horribly, HORRIBLY designed, I just straight up don't like them.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

mwhighlander, on 27 July 2014 - 07:50 AM, said:

If we could "blacklist" maps, I would gladly opt out of...

...
Forest Colony (+snow)
Frozen Shltty (+night)
River Shltty (+night)


I cannot stand these early shoebox sized maps that quite clearly cannot handle 24 mechs + turrets on them. Besides the fact these maps are horribly, HORRIBLY designed, I just straight up don't like them.

Amen. Those are map that are both horrible for terrain not stopping lurms (clipping through buildings) and spots you can outright get stuck floating in the air on invisible junk.

[PANZERKAT]

May as well make it so I can only choose maps against mechs I like to play against.

[A banana in the tailpipe]

KOMMISSAR KITTY, on 27 July 2014 - 07:55 AM, said:

May as well make it so I can only choose maps against mechs I like to play against.

They already let us opt out of conquest and assault, which depending on the map you get greatly influences your chance of victory.

A MAJOR problem with spawn points on bad maps is they demoralize teams before the match even begins.

Edited by lockwoodx, 27 July 2014 - 07:58 AM.

[nehebkau]

Sandpit, on 23 July 2014 - 06:33 PM, said:

NO!

Also, do a search for similar threads
(i figure duplicate threads deserve duplicate responses )

Since this tread has been repeated more times then I can count, responses should be likewise repeated.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

lockwoodx, on 27 July 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

They already let us opt out of conquest and assault, which depending on the map you get greatly influences your chance of victory.

A MAJOR problem with spawn points on bad maps is they demoralize teams before the match even begins.

On Skirmish with River city, if you spawn at the "dropship" in a direwhale you're basically ****** unless you play underground railroad in the tunnel or for some reason your team all camps up there.


That right there is definition of bad map design where a random spawn pretty much determines whether you live or die in the first minute of gameplay.

Edited by mwhighlander, 27 July 2014 - 08:03 AM.

[The Mad Katter]

I don't care which map is being served up, it'd just be nice to know BEFORE I picked which mech I'm driving. I'm not bringing a Nova Prime to Therma if I have a choice, nor am I bringing a Catapult A1 to River City if I can help it.

[Sandpit]

lockwoodx, on 27 July 2014 - 07:39 AM, said:

Naturally you remember it differently.

I'll check, as I'm sure you contributed to that hot mess of tears by the meta crowd or it may have been while you were on your QQ break. I even made a funny map pic for it but that was censored by the mods for language.

Edit: Sorry it only lets me go back 5 created topics in the profile.

sure thing hoss, not like you can use the "find content" search your own thread title, etc. keep trying though

[Sandpit]

lockwoodx, on 27 July 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

I made a thread about alpine and how terrible it is a long time ago back when poptarting was at its worst. It's funny how well received it was then due to the competitive community's callous regard for a single queue system, and the same old tryhards who enjoy the meta are trying to get this one shut down too. There's no strat or tactics to alpine other than who wants to sit and do nothing for 10+ minutes until the other team budges, with spawn points determining the outcome of the majority of matches. The irony is Alpine is one of the best maps for conquest because the hill doesn't come into play at all. These days, Alpine is a little more tolerable but not much, as canyon and riverchitty battle for worst map with all the lurm spam being tossed about.

http://mwomercs.com/...-from-the-game/
it's amazing what the search function can turn up
oh, and here's YOUR thread you "couldn't find" (even though it took me all of about 10 seconds by clicking on your profile and then find content)

http://mwomercs.com/...__fromsearch__1

[Zolaz]

I want to blacklist players more than maps.

[KuroNyra]

I want to blacklist threads like this one.