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[Viges]

RTDouglas, on 06 August 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

I for one am absolutely LOVING this feature and I am an Inner Sphere pilot. I hope this becomes a permanent feature. THANK YOU PGI!

Maybe we need a separate game mode for bdsm-lovers...

[Terriskai]

How about we get a little something for being target practice?

[_NARCoMAN_]

Noth, on 06 August 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

Even after they are nerfed, people will still claim they are OP because typically better players have the clans. Just like how now, more skilled IS players will stomp less skilled Clan players.

Two equally skilled players, one in IS, one in clan...Clan will win every time.

That's what this is about.

[Mystere]

Axeface, on 06 August 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

This is the garbage is find dispicable. It is irrelevant. The clan mechs are better.

FULLSTOP.

How about a comprehensive end-to-end analysis to prive your statement, including, but not limited to, the following:

• chassis analysis, including all variants and IS/Clan configurability
  
• weapons analysis, including damage, rate of fire, duration, burst vs single-shot, weight, slots, ammo, impulse
  
• equipment options analysis, especially those that affect speed, agility, and heat efficiency
  
• time and spatial-based dynamic models of how the above interact in 1 vs. 1, 1 vs. N, lance vs. star, and team vs. team encounters

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

hey atleast its just like those books this is all based on. Didnt the Clans stomp on everyone in the first days they met?

[Mcgral18]

Asheron Realaidain, on 06 August 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

Two equally skilled players, one in IS, one in clan...Clan will win every time.

That's what this is about.

Yet again, I'll call BS.

Spider beats Cute Fox, Phract beats Thor. Stalker has a fair chance of beating PeaceDove.


Care to revise your statement?

[Sembrin]

Just lost 6 games in a row. I'm fairly sure in my over 3500 games I've played that's never happened. I'm done until this test ends. Just too pissed right now that I'm wasting my time.

[Noth]

Sembrin, on 06 August 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

Just lost 6 games in a row. I'm fairly sure in my over 3500 games I've played that's never happened. I'm done until this test ends. Just too pissed right now that I'm wasting my time.

You are either lying that it has never happened before, simply not recalling a time, or are extremely lucky.

[Mystere]

Asheron Realaidain, on 06 August 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

Two equally skilled players, one in IS, one in clan...Clan will win every time.

That's what this is about.

Mystere, on 06 August 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

How about a comprehensive end-to-end analysis to prive your statement, including, but not limited to, the following:

• chassis analysis, including all variants and IS/Clan configurability
  
• weapons analysis, including damage, rate of fire, duration, burst vs single-shot, weight, slots, ammo, impulse
  
• equipment options analysis, especially those that affect speed, agility, and heat efficiency
  
• time and spatial-based dynamic models of how the above interact in 1 vs. 1, 1 vs. N, lance vs. star, and team vs. team encounters

[Sembrin]

Nope, I've NEVER lost 6 games in a row before. 2-3 sure, but not 6.

[Noth]

Sembrin, on 06 August 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

Nope, I've NEVER lost 6 games in a row before. 2-3 sure, but not 6.

You are extremely lucky then. Losing 6 in a row is not some rare thing,

[Viges]

Mcgral18, on 06 August 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

why doesn't the Clan mech win every time if it's P2WOP?

Because some clan players are just so bad that even super op mechs cant help them.

[John McOrigin]

Of 14 matches I lost all 14 as IS. One match was "close": 12:8 with 4 heavily damaged Clan mechs alive.

9 matches had ZERO to dead clan mech,
3 matches had 2 to 3 dead clan mechs,
1 match was nice, but not called close, 12:6.

Thats my numbery, quit for today. We will see if PGI post their results. And of course we all will decide if we believe them and discuss that topic further, I am sure.

[kongman]

waaa waaaa waaaa , this is all i hear from cry baby pilots , sure clan mecs have some strong points , but so do IS mechs , just because your crappy tactics that worked before dont work now , does not mean they are broken ........there is only 1 op clan mech , the timber wolf and that more to do with hit boxes than anything else .


To anyone else who wants to whine , please leave and go back to minecraft we dont want cry babies here .


p.s this was not meant to affend minecraft players :)

[101011]

Well, because everyone here is complaining about how every single match is a face-roll, I will take Axeface up on his suggestion to take a SS of all my EOM screens, using an IS chassis, for the next two hours, or until the test ends.

[Mcgral18]

101011, on 06 August 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Well, because everyone here is complaining about how every single match is a face-roll, I will take Axeface up on his suggestion to take a SS of all my EOM screens, using an IS chassis, for the next two hours, or until the test ends.

Perhaps I should as well. Just had another stomp, IS vs IS, our team had 8 players fail to reach 200 damage.

Un-basic'ed Wub Awesome can't carry very hard.

[Sorbic]

Griggio, on 06 August 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

Considering a Clan Star is 5 mechs I like the 10-12 idea. Though the last 3 matches the IS teams were really making it hard on themselves. Bunching up, exposing themselves to flank...etc.

Case in point an opposing player just stood there plinking away at something else while I stood off the side and hit em with lasers. Didn't move, didn't look around, nothing just took it until he died.

A fair assessment was made on the announcement, that a majority of the players using Clan Tech were more experienced player base, and I'm inclined to agree.

And I did the same thing to a couple DW's today. The whole experienced thing is just an excuse made on a weak assumption. I've seen just as many poor clan players as IS once you factor out trial mechs and matches without trial mechs have been lop sided as well. On that note I do think they should block trial mechs from being part of such tests as it will corrupt the data.

[101011]

Mcgral18, on 06 August 2014 - 02:23 PM, said:

Perhaps I should as well. Just had another stomp, IS vs IS, our team had 8 players fail to reach 200 damage.

Un-basic'ed Wub Awesome can't carry very hard.

Indeed, I just had a match where it took 3 Clan Assaults to take my Jager down . Pathetic.

[damonwolf]

I'll write it again, bad, stupid, or tactic-challenged players dictate matches more than technology. Clanners are most likely more experienced, more adept, more dedicated players willing to spend money and time on the game. Most people that I know that refuse to spend a dime on the game run IS Mechs, and those badly.
There are many casuals that don't put a lot of time and effort into this game, so the veterans are much much much more proficient at fighting than those that only give an hour or two here and there. What's your solution to this? Nerf those that play more an give an advantage to those that don't play a lot?
That's he problem with many people on this forum...SKILL.
"OMFG...LRMs killed me because I charged out in the middle of a field like an idiot...NERF LRMs!!!"
"I only play 1-4 hours a week on the weekend and when I go into a match I get stomped...Nerf the queue!!!"
"OMFG, I just got killed by a Clan mech even though I ran off like an idiot from my team...Nerf Clans!!!"
"OMFG, I was on a team that was stomped because we all scattered like cockroaches at the start...and the one that killed me was a Clanner...Nerf Clan Mechs!!!"
"I put 4 ERPCs on my IS Medium and died because I melted down during a brawl...but I got killed by A Clan Mech...Nerf Clan Mechs!"
See the pattern here?

Edited by damonwolf, 06 August 2014 - 02:43 PM.

[Jman5]

Mystere, on 06 August 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

How about a comprehensive end-to-end analysis to prive your statement, including, but not limited to, the following:

• chassis analysis, including all variants and IS/Clan configurability
  
• weapons analysis, including damage, rate of fire, duration, burst vs single-shot, weight, slots, ammo, impulse
  
• equipment options analysis, especially those that affect speed, agility, and heat efficiency
  
• time and spatial-based dynamic models of how the above interact in 1 vs. 1, 1 vs. N, lance vs. star, and team vs. team encounters

No one is going to take you seriously when your burden of proof is so ridiculously high and downright strange. "Time and spatial based dynamic models?" Come on do you even know what you're saying? Can you even create a test example model?

This is exactly like something you hear out of those climate change denying cranks.