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August 8Th Weapon Balance Update And Patch - Feedback


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#301 Ngamok

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:15 PM

Slower IS and Clan PPCs, fine with me. Longer beam duration on Clan ER LL, fine with me. Bigger Heat Scale, fine with me. Firing 2 Clan ER LLs to trigger ghost heat? Not Fine. Everything else I was OK with.

#302 NEWater

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:15 PM

Can I ask for my money back please?

#303 Mister Blastman

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

View PostVeneroso, on 07 August 2014 - 09:05 PM, said:


Damnit.... Why can't I resist these things...


I WARNED YOU!

#304 Mr Nikson

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

Need more cocainum nerf. MORE!!!

#305 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:17 PM

Wow. Talk about BIG changes... I don't even know what to say... this sucks.

Ghost heat after 1 ER LL??? What the hell man???

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 07 August 2014 - 09:18 PM.


#306 P5YCO

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:17 PM

Well this isn't all bad. I don't pilot clan yet so the cerll nerf is good for me. I prefer ac weapons anyway so it doesn't really affect me apart from the poor jester which has had its main weapon neutered again after you also made its jump jets useless.

#307 Wintersdark

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:19 PM

View PostDymlos2003, on 07 August 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

Who else believes this whining is for nothing? I'm sure people won't even notice.
Are you freaking kidding me? Firing 2 cERLL's will generate roughly the same heat that firing three before (and those three triggered ghost heat, too).

Did CERLL need a nerf? Yes, they where too cool for what they did.

But a dimple heat increase, maybe also the ghost heat multiplier increase as well to more strongly penalize 3+ groups of them (3 were very manageable before)... But the factor increase, base heat increase AND dropping the limit to 1? The only other weapon in the game with a limit of 1 is the AC20. Hell, we can fire 2 PPC's without ghost heat.

This is a ruinous change for CERLL's at any reasonable level of play. With a 2s beam time, you can't chain fire them (no defensive piloting while staring at your target for 4+s means either you're dead/crippled or your opponents are terribly bad.

#308 H I A S

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:20 PM

View Postorcrist86, on 07 August 2014 - 06:25 PM, said:

I'm OK with ppc slow down.


View PostNgamok, on 07 August 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

Slower IS and Clan PPCs, fine with me.


lol

GG PGI

Edited by HiasRGB, 07 August 2014 - 09:21 PM.


#309 Wintersdark

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:21 PM

View PostP5YCO, on 07 August 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Well this isn't all bad. I don't pilot clan yet so the cerll nerf is good for me. I prefer ac weapons anyway so it doesn't really affect me apart from the poor jester which has had its main weapon neutered again after you also made its jump jets useless.
This doesn't effect IS lasers.

#310 Sandpit

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:21 PM

View PostFupDup, on 07 August 2014 - 09:13 PM, said:

I don't always agree with Sandy, but when I do, somebody dun goofed really hard.

we win the forums for the week :(

#311 VanillaG

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:22 PM

Thanks for this change PGI, I was running low on butthurt and was able to stock back up with the feedback.

#312 Killashnikov

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:22 PM

Dear heaven, you really need to fire your gameplay advisors there PGI.... Something.

Also, slow down your balance changes!!!

#313 Nauht

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:23 PM

Absolute farce.

I'm feeling really, really stupid for buying anything at all. I knew I should have waited. But impatience and the fact that I thought PGI actually learnt something lulled me into a false sense of security.

Well thanks for the wake up call.

No way am I going to be dropping money again. Spread the word that it's seriously not worth putting any money into this title.

Use and abuse the F2P aspect but definitely, utterly not worth your money and you'll come to regret putting real $$$ here in the end.

#314 GonaDie

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:23 PM

We all learned a lesson today.NEVER ask PGI to balance something, or soon...very soon, we will be boating small pulse lasers an MG's cuz everything else was "balanced" like PPCs and CERLLs.

R.I.P

Clan Extended Range Large Laser

2014 June 17th - 2014 August 8th

#315 Hannibal Chow

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:23 PM

PGI giveth, and as usual Paul taketh away.

Kudos Paul, well played.

#316 Sandpit

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:25 PM

I didn't even really consider the 2 LL thing. That's..... that sucks lol well for clanners anyhow :(

I don't get that PLUS a 2 second beam? That's a looooooong time for one beam...

#317 Roadbeer

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:25 PM

This thread.

Is like watching a train wreck
In slow motion
that's on my DVR
and the cable is out.

It's hypnotic how this just keeps happening.

#318 Yigyam

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:26 PM

Back again. Use the test server for changes like this. Like you said you would for major balance changes like the ppc + gauss charge. Keep huge changes out of the game until they've undergone some meaningful review.

#319 Shadow Magnet

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:26 PM

My bet: Ghost heat trigger for CERML lowered from firing more than 6 to firing more than 2 next weekend.

Is it just me or is Paul trying to drive out as many formerly loyal players as possible? I guess there won't be many people that will buy clan packs now.

Sad, really sad...

#320 P e n u m b r a

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:28 PM

xD oh god all ready on to the next thing, Thanks for the call out GK but you underestimate our ability to adapt FYI we beat you in a brawl and also when you had MORE lasers and range than we did on alpine maybe you should focus on teams like SiG instead of us.

Edited by L e 0, 07 August 2014 - 09:38 PM.






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