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#361 xJohnWolf

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:03 PM

View PostNikolai Lubkiewicz, on 07 August 2014 - 09:40 PM, said:

Don't forget to check out Russ' Tweets on the Clan vs IS!

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Niko - Just a gentle reminder so you don't get a more harsh one in your inbox... Focus on the patch changes suggested in the original post. Keep it on topic please. Thank you.

#362 Augustus Martelus II

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:04 PM

At least if i could put my engine in a critical heat...and make it explode in a formidable little nuclear device....thats how i would protest against that ghost heat ''fix''

I would blow myself in every match so everyone would feel my ghost heat frustration! :(

#363 Hatepriest

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM

I am adding my disapproval to these changes. Stop making more problems by trying to fix things with major changes.

You have done really well last couple of patches then this. Was someone different responsible for those ones?

You were doing so well.......... :(

#364 Pezzer

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM

The ERLL changes are going to make it a low-tier weapon like the old LPL, unfortunately. Increasing heat and slightly reducing damage would have been a better set of changes. I would have even been fine with the Clan ERLL doing LESS damage than the IS version simply because it has so much more damage.

Either way, the 2-ghost heat penalty is going to gimp A LOT OF LEGITIMATE BUILDS. And I thought the C-ERLL's heat appearing to be unsubstantial was a result of the long beam duration, where the heat is panned out over a longer duration and thusly is easier to cool down by the Mech. I mean, did you test fire 2 C-ERLL with any other weapons during your experiments? Because my Stormcrow 2ERLL/4ERML build gets really hot.

Should've increased the heat to 9.5 or 8.5. But not this. RIP ERLL, I only liked ya because there was no regular C-LL...

#365 XX Sulla XX

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM

View PostRed1769, on 07 August 2014 - 07:24 PM, said:

Normally, Sulla, I would agree...but not in this case...both needed some tweaks...one got punched through a wall, the other got slammed through several concrete buildings.

Those calling for someone to be fired on the other hand, are waaayy over-reacting...


Just saying lets see what it does to game play. They can always tone it down later. Not saying its good or bad. Just lets see.

#366 Duke Hector

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM

View PostAH Osprey 02, on 07 August 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

I'm done buying crap from you guys... I buy this crap and weeks later you flipping nerf every flipping thing.... What are you thinking... I bought the flipping clan pack for what they where sold as not what you feel like changing them too every other flipping week.... Well You win again PGI... I've been a fan for along time but you keep screwing me over Everything I buy.... So I quit... I will not bother buying anything from you at all... Thanks for the good times .....


i don't know how many times i have said it too all the people about the clan pack, i said that YOU are taking a HUGE financial risk by buying pixels in a fake game.

you took the risk of wasting your $500 for that clan pack when you could have bought some gold for that price, or pay your rent or buy a bunch of food.

and now your complaining about it, YOU bought that pack YOU took the risk, now YOU face the consequence's and face the reality that you will NEVER get that money back.

never buy fake pixels dude, stick with real life stuff you can at least hold real stuff in your hand

#367 Roadbeer

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:06 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

This has not been implemented yet has it?, they still have time to reverse. Unless they already put it into play.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Like Paul has ever gone back on any half-assed, not qualified to be a fry cook, decision he's made.


View PostAugustus Martelus II, on 07 August 2014 - 10:04 PM, said:

I would blow myself in every match

Phrasing

#368 LtRics

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:07 PM

I can agree with the PPC changes, though not sure such a heavy hit with the neftbat is a good start. I guess we will see how it will play out.

Now regarding the CERLL. I can agree with a slight heat nerf, even with the beam duration. But giving a heat penelaty for shooting more than one is... questionable to say the least.

Me is a sad panda...

#369 Ryvucz

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:08 PM

As for the Clanner ER Large Laser, it's just going to cause Clanners to do more damage, as it won't be even remotely all pinpoint damage.

Which will STILL give the impression Clan Mechs are overpowered high damage dealers.

And hiya Niko! :(

#370 FupDup

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:08 PM

View PostAugustus Martelus II, on 07 August 2014 - 10:04 PM, said:

I would blow myself in every match

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#371 Noth

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:09 PM

View PostXX Sulla XX, on 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM, said:


Just saying lets see what it does to game play. They can always tone it down later. Not saying its good or bad. Just lets see.


Or you know, they could have put it on the test server for more than just internal and unknown competitive (seriously, the competitive players don't even know who this could be) players to test. Nope, we are just dumping it onto a the live environment.

Edited by Noth, 07 August 2014 - 10:09 PM.


#372 anonymous161

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:09 PM

Welp...I officially regret buying the clans now they did end up nerfing them, now they will no longer feel like clan mechs....I'm out have fun with a game that is getting more and more terrible with still no gameplay added just more nerfs because well it's still in early beta I guess.

Hello mll and dark horizons.

Been real pgi...or not frankly surprised I lasted this long but I said I would be out if they ruined clans and frankly this will do it.

#373 Mr Nikson

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:10 PM

View PostNikolai Lubkiewicz, on 07 August 2014 - 09:40 PM, said:

Don't forget to check out Russ' Tweets on the Clan vs IS!

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Maybe, this is because as all beginners player use IS mech?

#374 Kaeb Odellas

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:10 PM

View PostKaeb Odellas, on 07 August 2014 - 10:00 PM, said:

GHOST HEAT SUCKS AS A GAME BALANCE MECHANIC

STOP USING IT


Seriously, the heat and duration increase were pretty heavy nerfs on their own. The 2s duration alone probably would have been fine. The ghost heat cap is just egregious. I'm not even a huge fan of clan tech and this pisses me off.

That said, I'm really curious to see how the PPC change pans out. I feel IS ERPPCs should have been untouched, since they're borderline usable weapons anyway.

#375 Fire and Salt

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:10 PM

View PostHatepriest, on 07 August 2014 - 10:05 PM, said:

:(


Well, now you've done it. You've made Hatepriest sad...

#376 Tezcatli

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:11 PM

Now just do the same to medium lasers and we'll be good :3

#377 Smargl

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:11 PM

Well, for the first time i think of quit playing MWO.

#378 Draecos

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:11 PM

I get wanting to nerf PPC some and reduce it's effectiveness. Especially in the dual AC5 and Gauss synch poptarts. At the same time, this makes it a HORRIBLE weapon, period. Unless something is done to improve hit registration, and how it actually damages a mech, it's now one of the the absolute worst weapons.

Why not do something like "overload: PPC's and Gauss demand so much energy, they cannot be fired within 1 second of each other due to capacitor recharge"? Or something.

And C-ERLL..... grats. IS ERLL is easily the better weapon now.

PGI.... you are making me regret spending money on you guys.

#379 Mystere

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:12 PM

View PostAsheron Realaidain, on 07 August 2014 - 10:01 PM, said:


Russel is handling the analysis, which was flatly obvious to begin with. But, keep hoping for someone to waste their afternoon trying to appease you.

https://twitter.com/...589495349657601

^ It's right there. You can try and ask him for more numbers. :P


Well, all Russ has to do then is release his analysis. Then I can see for myself. :(

And, by the way, I don't do twitter. I think it's a step backwards in human evolution ... just like texting. :angry: :unsure:

Edited by Mystere, 07 August 2014 - 10:19 PM.


#380 EvilCow

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:13 PM

I must confess I was worried, after lobbies, clan pack, rejoin and most recent changes PGI was on a positive streak.

Glad to see that they are back to usual business now.





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