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[Bartholomew bartholomew]

Was there any patch stuff today, or is it all just his mech release?

[DAYLEET]

StillRadioactive, on 19 August 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

This 'mech is DOA, plain and simple. Here are my stats, as compared to the Blackjacks (same tonnage) and Griffins (similar hardpoints). There's obviously a problem here.

While i can't remember having bad matches like im havin right now in my Vindicator where doing above 150damage is a challenge... There was this guy called Trahibator that did 600+damage and 5 kills in my last match. I guess that means i dont know how to play it yet and he does. And until i get the X2 from the elite i wont to ***** about it.

Edited by DAYLEET, 19 August 2014 - 02:51 PM.

[a gaijin]

This is the first MWO mech that **really** looks like a transformer

[StillRadioactive]

DAYLEET, on 19 August 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

While i can't remember having bad matches like im havin right now in my Vindicator where doing above 150damage is a challenge... There was this guy called Trahibator that did 600+damage and 5 kills in my last match. I guess that means i dont know how to play it yet and he does. And until i get the X2 from the elite i wont to ***** about it.

I normally assume about a 15% increase in damage from bone stock to double basic. The fact that I was doing 600 damage in a non-basic Locust earlier today, and I'm struggling to hit 200 in this tells me that something is wrong.

[verybad]

I could see this with a cop siren warhorn being kind of cheesy cool.

[verybad]

StillRadioactive, on 19 August 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

This 'mech is DOA, plain and simple. Here are my stats, as compared to the Blackjacks (same tonnage) and Griffins (similar hardpoints). There's obviously a problem here.

Well yeah, people have been saying that would be the case since it became a rumor.

[DAYLEET]

StillRadioactive, on 19 August 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

I normally assume about a 15% increase in damage from bone stock to double basic. The fact that I was doing 600 damage in a non-basic Locust earlier today, and I'm struggling to hit 200 in this tells me that something is wrong.

Oh i get it, you expected to do better or at least expected the others to think you would do better with the mech so you blame it. You could try blaming Elo if you play solo queue.

[verybad]

Blacksoul1987, on 19 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

I bought this terrible mech because of the silly awesome paint job and I don't regret it!

Looks are always more important than personality in any case.

[CycKath]

Love that its Lore, but such a bare basic 'Mech for MC, even as a Hero? So far I'm running about even (1 kill before I go down) but will reserve judgement until I get some more time with it and can afford to upgrade it (played nothing but bonus MC mechs and sold all my salvage to buy discounted c-bill mechs in the sales over the weekend)

[ImperialKnight]

low slung arms, limited energy and missile hardpoints, small engine cap. I'm sad now. Oh well, all the better to save up CBills for Clan mechs

Want a 45 tonner jumping energy boat or ballistics platform? You got the Blackjack for that. Want a SRM brawler or LRM throwing medium? You got the SHD and GRF for that.

VND needed something like 4B/4E with minimum 275 engine cap (giant Ember) or 3M/3E hardpoints (mini SHD/GRF)to content with the current viable mediums


The SIB Hero is the best variant of all because it can at least do this

Edited by knightsljx, 19 August 2014 - 03:34 PM.

[verybad]

I kind of like it mroe now than before, I know it's going to be a POS, and I'm ok with that. Looks like it woudl be fun in a stock match.

The game really needs a "return to stock" button in mechlab and a stockonly game start for pub.

[MrWhite]

Meh wish it came with Endo and DHS standard, kinda leaves me feeling very "blah" when I see a mech you need to pay real money for, not come fully upgraded. Gotta keep that Cbill grind going I guess... either way I'll prolly pass, don't play the mechs I have.

[CeeKay Boques]

General Taskeen, on 19 August 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

Its a call out to Michael Jones, the pilot who used it in Battle Tech and the actual stock Mech from Technical Readout 3025 and 3039.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vindicator



Same as the official produced "SIC"

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Also, PGI may as well add in Minor Factions as selectable, including St. Ives.

This I like. Makes me think you love your roots, MWO.

[IraqiWalker]

StillRadioactive, on 19 August 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

This 'mech is DOA, plain and simple. Here are my stats, as compared to the Blackjacks (same tonnage) and Griffins (similar hardpoints). There's obviously a problem here.

Yes, I see the problem. You've been playing this mech for a few hours. I would expect you to have a somewhat bad record starting out.

MrWhite, on 19 August 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Meh wish it came with Endo and DHS standard, kinda leaves me feeling very "blah" when I see a mech you need to pay real money for, not come fully upgraded. Gotta keep that Cbill grind going I guess... either way I'll prolly pass, don't play the mechs I have.

It's a proper lore mech, and it's a 3025 mech to be specific, back when XLs and DHS were extinct.

I guarantee you right now, that the forums would be ablaze if PGI released a canon mech, and then borked it's construction.

YLW came with SHS as well, along with the Ilya. It's not the first Hero mech that doesn't have full customization.

The Ember came with a STD 210 engine. Death's knell had a STD 175 in it. Oxide STD 235.

Arrow STD 235. Orion has STD 300. Basically I can go down the list of hero mechs and the majority of them wouldn't have most upgrades.

The hero mechs are mostly added flavor, and are usually based off unique customized variants that existed in lore. They're not supposed to be pimped out to the extreme. Especially considering when the mech they are based on was made.

[MrWhite]

IraqiWalker, on 19 August 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

Yes, I see the problem. You've been playing this mech for a few hours. I would expect you to have a somewhat bad record starting out.



It's a proper lore mech, and it's a 3025 mech to be specific, back when XLs and DHS were extinct.

I guarantee you right now, that the forums would be ablaze if PGI released a canon mech, and then borked it's construction.

YLW came with SHS as well, along with the Ilya. It's not the first Hero mech that doesn't have full customization.

The Ember came with a STD 210 engine. Death's knell had a STD 175 in it. Oxide STD 235.

Arrow STD 235. Orion has STD 300. Basically I can go down the list of hero mechs and the majority of them wouldn't have most upgrades.

The hero mechs are mostly added flavor, and are usually based off unique customized variants that existed in lore. They're not supposed to be pimped out to the extreme. Especially considering when the mech they are based on was made.

Canon? After some of the crap they've released? lol that's funny... but fair enough. I honestly didn't realize it's an actual Canon mech I mean after crap like war horns and gold plated clan mech packs I figure we're beyond holding to battletech at this point, cause honestly other then perhaps clan novacat I can't see ANY clanners running in gaudy flashy mechs that blast dubstep everytime they kill another mech... but that's just me. And I do know that the "protector" was supposed to be Kerenskys Orion but who here thinks a famous hard nose general who basically kicked butt and took names would run around in a bright orange mech with gold accents?

But yeah tons of other hero mechs came pretty stock to without any upgrades to. I have several and looking back it was kinda silly then to... side note Arrow doesn't need them if you boat Mguns, and a 300 std is a decent engine for the Orion, The stupid commando though I have one of those and it was pretty fun spending MC on a mech that I had to spend another couple million cbills on just to make it useable.


Just sayin'...

Edited by MrWhite, 19 August 2014 - 04:04 PM.

[N a p e s]

In my 5 games so far I've had at least 2 kills and only ended up dead once. So far I'm liking it but its still in its preliminary build stage which for now is 1 plc, 1 erppc and a tag with an xl250. It feels like I'm toting double pistols...

[Uncle Totty]

HEY! LOOK!

InnerSphereNews, on 19 August 2014 - 10:44 AM, said:

“I remember the day I first met Blue: Dad was piloting her, laughing at me over how awe-struck I was.
I was blinded by the light of our sun as it reflected off the silver trumpet on Blue’s chest. That reflection soon became a source fierce pride as I was told of the herald of St. Ives being known across the Confederation and beyond, and I was told that she would be mine.
At that moment, I made a promise to my father that if I ever got to pilot Blue: I would only ever use her to protect the innocent and to defend St. Ives: And now I must decide if I will keep that promise… If I will keep my pride…”



-Pilot’s Log - Mjr. Michael Jones

The return of the BACKSTORY! (Sure it is a bit short, but it is there. )

[Yelland]

I don't know about DOA - I feel pretty good in the Vindicator. Individual stats are pretty relative, especially on day one. I think its talent will come out once Elite'd.

Only 7 games but can't play anymore right now. K/D is 1.20 so far. Been some bad matches, but I didn't feel inferior and I think I have pretty good sense of whether I like a chassis or not. It is a little slow, and maybe once I get 25-50 matches I will feel different. I want to run a PPC focused build on Elite.

This is what I started out with.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2b317080e6bbedf

XL 235 (84.6 KPH)
1xML
1xLL
1xLPL
1xSRM4
AMS/BAP
2xJJ

Edited by Yelland, 19 August 2014 - 04:10 PM.

[Solis Obscuri]

Nice tube limits! I could get behind this little *******...

[Grendel408]

Tinkering with Smurfy while at work... similar to a Trebuchet build I got which worked really well back in the day