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[Vassago Rain]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:02 AM, said:

Just becuase it should have been added before launch, doesn't mean the addition now is any less

Yes, it does. People's interest have died out so much, most of the units that signed up are 5-15 man operations, with a very large number of sub 5 player units. Back in my day, we had units that numbered in the hundreds of players, who'd muster entire companies playing at any given time, grinding robots endlessly, and shooting each other up in the 8 manz and later 12 manz.

Good luck seeing anything like that in 2014.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Sarlic, on 27 August 2014 - 08:04 AM, said:

Then were did all the Founders money go? Some on the license. But not on CW they promised back. They made milions with Founders money and the game is still not playable but they sure pump each patch another MC mech out...

Unacceptable.

........I dont know. I just dont know.

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:06 AM, said:

Yes, it does. People's interest have died out so much, most of the units that signed up are 5-15 man operations, with a very large number of sub 5 player units. Back in my day, we had units that numbered in the hundreds of players, who'd muster entire companies playing at any given time, grinding robots endlessly, and shooting each other up in the 8 manz and later 12 manz.

Good luck seeing anything like that in 2014.

5-15 man units? do you know how much my Unit has? Clan ghost bear, Nova cat, Falcon, Delta Galaxy.

Come to think of it, I think Ghost bear is the biggest Clan by far.

I can actually start a biggest Unit thread to get exact numbers, but I do not need to go that far.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 08:12 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 07:50 AM, said:

I guess, but the game doesn't force you to pay for anything. People used free will to buy clan mechs. People use free will to pay for MC. People also use free will in determine what they want to pay for. Now subscription games on the other hand, Force not Coerce you to pay to play.

There is no advantage to be gained in this game by paying for MC. I have 4000 and it doesn't do me much good in any regard, expect for private matches.

The Ember, Victor DS, Clan Mechs would like a word with you.

Sarlic, on 27 August 2014 - 08:04 AM, said:

Then were did all the Founders money go? Some on the license. But not on CW they promised back. They made milions with Founders money and the game is still not playable but they sure pump each patch another MC mech out...

Unacceptable.

It went on Mechwarrior Tactics, the game still in beta and founders...........because it failed hard.

[BLOOD WOLF]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

The Ember, Victor DS, Clan Mechs would like a word with you.



It went on Mechwarrior Tactics, the game still in beta and founders...........because it failed hard.

I got me an ember, only because at the time i needed a decent hero. It still does okay.

[Sarlic]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:06 AM, said:

........I dont know. I just dont know.

Look i respect you. But i am just dissappointed with their decisions.

PGI needs to change their cycle the way they do things. Not all damage can be fixed what they have done for example that worthless paymodel.

Fix the damn game instead of working on new content! (Means: GFX artist, 3D modellers etc can look at Fixing, Modifying or Improving current maps which also needs fixing)

When that's changed: improve communication with the community.

That's a good start.

Edited by Sarlic, 27 August 2014 - 08:12 AM.

[Heffay]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 07:34 AM, said:

We have many other games RIGHT NOW that are doing what MWO was claiming it wanted to do back in 2012 - as opposed to what it actually ended up doing.

Yeah? Which games?

Bonus points if they are giant stompy robot themed games.

[Vassago Rain]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:07 AM, said:

........I dont know. I just dont know.


5-15 man units? do you know how much my Unit has? Clan ghost bear, Nova cat, Falcon, Delta Galaxy.

Come to think of it, I think Ghost bear is the biggest Clan by far.

lol, bro, plz.

Word of Lowtax, alone, numbered in the thousands of players at one point.

Nothing in 2014's MWO compares to what we used to have. Skye rangers? 1500+ registered people. DHB had hundreds. Robinson rangers, ARMd, Kaos, the three pony guilds, maximum power Marik, even Murphy's law probably approached 100 registered players at one point, and they are all old men and army dudes.

The game's barely a shred of its former self, blood.

Where did all those players go, anyway? They went to other games, because they realized this one will never be what they dreamed they'd have.

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Yeah? Which games?

Bonus points if they are giant stompy robot themed games.

You ever heard of heavy gear assault? Should check into it some day.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Sarlic, on 27 August 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:

Look i respect you. But i am just dissappointed with their decisions.

PGI needs to change their cycle the way they do things. Not all damage can be fixed what they have done for example that worthless paymodel.

Fix the damn game instead of working on new content! (Means: GFX artist, 3D modellers etc can look at Fixing, Modifying or Improving current maps which also needs fixing)

When that's changed: improve communication with the community.

That's a good start.

All in due time i suppose. That is what I am looking at 2015 to be, the year of polish. Like I said before with CW out the way, all the have to do is build upon and polish the game

[Vassago Rain]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:14 AM, said:

All in due time i suppose. That is what I am looking at 2015 to be, the year of polish. Like I said before with CW out the way, all the have to do is build upon and polish the game

No matter how much you polish MWO, you'll never fit any kind of functional community warfare into it.

I detailed why in my first big post in this thread.

I'm sorry.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:14 AM, said:

You ever heard of heavy gear assault? Should check into it some day.

There is only one problem with HGA, Mektek.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:16 AM, said:

No matter how much you polish MWO, you'll never fit any kind of functional community warfare into it.

I detailed why in my first big post in this thread.

I'm sorry.

sorry for what? that is your word, only time will tell. This game has not been made and shaped by everything you said. If it was then we would be were we want to go alot sooner. I will let my eyes determine what lies ahead. All i know is we got association which is phase 1 and soon to be followed by the rest.

Even at first if it is not what is supposed to be, it can be fixed. It can be improved. Not everything is as subjective as weapon balance.

I guess we are going to have to see what 2015 is going to yeild.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 08:20 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 08:17 AM, said:

There is only one problem with HGA, Mektek.

What's the problem with mektek?

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

sorry for what? that is your word, only time will tell. This game has not been made and shaped by everything you said. If it was then we would be were we want to go alot sooner. I will let my eyes determine what lies ahead. All i know is we got association which is phase 1 and soon to be followed by the rest.

Even at first if it is not what is supposed to be, it can be fixed. It can be improved.

Associations is still phase #2, blood, and they can't improve the game.

It's by design. I told you why. They need to overhaul everything - not make slight improvements.

Are you seriously saying you'll grind for hundred million space dollar dropships so you can put 35 million fully moduled-out assault robots and clan mechs in them, all on 100-200k match incomes in endless 12v12 pub drops?

There's a reason they REMOVED the old 12 player, 200~ million c-bill requirement on unit creation.

Edited by Vassago Rain, 27 August 2014 - 08:21 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

What's the problem with mektek?

I wouldn't trust them to balance a piece of poo. And they are about as approachable as PGI.

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

I guess we are going to have to see what 2015 is going to yeild.

Mechs stackpoling for firing more than 1 Machine gun, and further pigeon holing into buying Mechs and Premium time to fund happy retirements.

Edited by DV McKenna, 27 August 2014 - 08:22 AM.

[Heffay]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:14 AM, said:

You ever heard of heavy gear assault? Should check into it some day.

Oh, so we're going to compare announced features to a live game?

How about we compare announced features to announced features? MWO will have a robust CW where units can fight over planets! Will we be able to do that in HGA?

Of course, you said:

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We have many other games RIGHT NOW that are doing what MWO was claiming it wanted to do back in 2012

So maybe I should assume that those features are currently live RIGHT NOW in Heavy Gear Assault?

[Vassago Rain]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

I wouldn't trust them to balance a piece of poo. And they are about as approachable as PGI.



Mechs stackpoling for firing more than 1 Machine gun

That's not what I've found, and I've done a bunch of podcasts with them.

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 08:23 AM, said:

Oh, so we're going to compare announced features to a live game?

How about we compare announced features to announced features? MWO will have a robust CW where units can fight over planets! Will we be able to do that in HGA?

Of course, you said:



So maybe I should assume that those features are currently live RIGHT NOW in Heavy Gear Assault?

I think you're gonna be very bitter by the end of the year, Heffay, as are NGNG.

[Deathlike]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 08:02 AM, said:

Just becuase it should have been added before launch, doesn't mean the addition now is any less

It actually is.

All of the controls PGI added for unit management could be done through a website... like say... MWOMercs.com/Forums

These things have been done time and time again in 3rd party leagues, so why would this require it built in the game? I guess it is great as a backup option, but having it built through the forums would have been the optimal path, since it has ZERO dependence on UI 2.0.

Edited by Deathlike, 27 August 2014 - 08:26 AM.

[Heffay]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I think you're gonna be very bitter by the end of the year, Heffay, as are NGNG.

Double standards... how do they work!?

I really hope HGA is exactly the game that you are looking for, and you get countless hours of mech bashing fun over there.

[Vassago Rain]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

Double standards... how do they work!?

I really hope HGA is exactly the game that you are looking for, and you get countless hours of mech bashing fun over there.

I hope so, too, and there's a million fighting games and other oldman titles out and about already. 2014 is a vast improvement over the past 4 years so far.

Maybe if whoever owns the game rights announced a crysis 4, too, then I'd be very satisfied with this year in gaming.

[Heffay]

Vassago Rain, on 27 August 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

I hope so, too, and there's a million fighting games and other oldman titles out and about already. 2014 is a vast improvement over the past 4 years so far. Maybe if whoever owns the game rights announced a crysis 4, too, then I'd be very satisfied with this year in gaming.

I guess we all get what we are looking for this year then! I'll get CW for MWO, and you'll get HGA!

[BLOOD WOLF]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 08:32 AM, said:

I guess we all get what we are looking for this year then! I'll get CW for MWO, and you'll get HGA!

CW indeed. Foundation is laid, and next is the build upon.

Even if not fully fleshed I am interested greatly in the next phase.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 08:33 AM.